[android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-31 Thread Mystique
Yes, but Android will terminate this automatically isn't it? On Aug 1, 1:38 am, a wrote: > While I agree with most of the replies, there is one issue that makes task > killers useful. Some apps run background tasks or they don't properly > terminate threads when they should. These apps will dra

[android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-31 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Eric- You are basing your entire post on the fallacious assumption that it is only "non-technical people" who download the task killers. I am very technical, and I downloaded one. Nor am I alone. Nor is it that "people ar very bad at shifting". Rather, the recent trend in the mobile OS industry (

[android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-31 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Kostya- Most of what you say is true, but beside the point. Task killers per se do not "interfere with the platform's functionality". Now yes, some users do have the strong desire you allude to, but that is far from proof that the desire for Task Killers IS an example of this effect. I do not bel

Re: [android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-31 Thread Adal
I think the user is not always the problem and if it is... we've got a problem because we can hardly make people change their behave, what we can do is build better apps that don't take resources they don't need. That's a developers fault and that's the one developers should focus. If we keep thin

Re: [android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-31 Thread a
While I agree with most of the replies, there is one issue that makes task killers useful. Some apps run background tasks or they don't properly terminate threads when they should. These apps will drain ur battery and for this reason alone I use them. gcstang wrote: >If it wasn't for a task k

[android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-31 Thread gcstang
If it wasn't for a task killer my phone wouldn't last a day mine as well be tethered to the wall. On Jul 31, 1:31 am, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > You don't need task killers.  Some people like them, and who I am I to argue > with what people like? ;) > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Myst

Re: [android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-30 Thread Dianne Hackborn
You don't need task killers. Some people like them, and who I am I to argue with what people like? ;) On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mystique wrote: > One question, not sure whether it is related. > Since Android manage task and application automatically and terminate > if necessary why do we

[android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-30 Thread Mystique
One question, not sure whether it is related. Since Android manage task and application automatically and terminate if necessary why do we need application like Advance Task Killer? Isn't it redundant? I understand why Android was design this way, to help speed up application and extra memory if no

[android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-30 Thread Eric F
Yeah this is exactly what I thought too. Just because non-technical people download task killers from the market doesn't mean that task killers are necessary. In my opinion it is way more likely that the explanation is that people are just very bad at shifting their way of thinking from paradigm to

Re: [android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-30 Thread Greg Donald
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Kostya Vasilyev wrote: > Google is starting to limit what > task killers can do. I believe interfering with the platform's core > functionality is definitely a bad thing. Google should worry more about the crap-ware vendors are putting on my phone. Allowing vendo

Re: [android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-30 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Technical details aside, I think it's just human nature. Some percentage of users just have a strong desire to have something "magical" that *supposedly* makes their device (Android phone or desktop OS) work much better. Remember - there used to be all kinds of memory optimizers for Windows?

[android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-30 Thread Indicator Veritatis
A good article. A little harsh on the OP, but even so, a good article. After all: given that that IS the design of Android, that Applications should not quit, but leave termination up to the OS, the article makes its case well, even elegantly. But I cannot help but notice: after Android did all t

[android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-30 Thread Arjun
Your question is missing some information. You can always kill your main activity that is possible. But you dont have any other control on other activities if those activities are binded to intent filter. Because each activities runs in their own process ..but there is a hack for this..if you can

[android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

2010-07-30 Thread Mike dg
Object o = null; o.toString(); -Mike dg On Jul 30, 9:37 am, Carlos Silva wrote: > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 14:13, RamaMohan wrote: > > HI all, > > I s there any way to kill the entire application at once.Not using > > with finish() or system.exit() ..all these two will kill the > > activity ,but