[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-19 Thread Schiffres
Unfortunately, being moved to Android discuss, which is a group that has a much lower activity level, has somewhat halted the conversation. Remember, go to the new group discussion (even though this is being aimed at developers, we can't chat in the Android developers group) and please contribute

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Schiffres
Sorry, correction, we had in fact been suggested three times to move to the Android Discuss group. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to androi

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Schiffres
Hello all, george_c went ahead and followed Dianne Hackborn's suggestion and reposted this in Android Discuss. However, unfortunately, it seems to be posted in a different language version of Google Groups, where as everyone posting on this thread speaks English. Thus, I've followed his lead and

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread george_c
Continued here: http://groups.google.gr/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/23adb39aea456da4 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Ivan Soto wrote: > >> I've been reading all but I don't have the time right now to write a full >> anal

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Dianne Hackborn
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Ivan Soto wrote: > I've been reading all but I don't have the time right now to write a full > analysis. Although, I would LOVE to see someone from Google that is not a > software engineer saying that they are reading this and considering what > people talk in th

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Ivan Soto
I've been reading all but I don't have the time right now to write a full analysis. Although, I would LOVE to see someone from Google that is not a software engineer saying that they are reading this and considering what people talk in these groups. Thanks. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Dianne

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Move this to android-discuss. Please. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Schiffres wrote: > > Hey Guys, > First, I want to apologize for the lack of coherence, or paragraphs > (sorry Al), I've had a pretty minimal amount of sleep this week :P. > To Carl, I fully acknowledge the iPhone shortcomin

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Schiffres
Hey Guys, First, I want to apologize for the lack of coherence, or paragraphs (sorry Al), I've had a pretty minimal amount of sleep this week :P. To Carl, I fully acknowledge the iPhone shortcomings and the grant potential for Android, it's why I'm, perhaps blindly, an uber Android supporter. How

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Paper Coder
An excellent comparison of interfaces. Although the iPhone doesn't sem to have the capabilities the Android OS has, the Android interface is, as already mentioned in other posts, lacking. It would be nice to see a set of standards that all apps should attempt to adhere to. So far I only see bits

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Bradley S. O'Hearne
Pat, I don't wish to get into a religious debate here, but for the purposes of constructive, concrete criticism/suggestion, I'd like to mention something here. I have / use / develop on both the iPhone and Google Android. It is very interesting to set both devices side by side, and attemp

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread patg
Google needs to realize that smart phones are the next wave of personal computers and start treating Android phones as a computer with a phone attached rather than a phone with fairly impressive compute power. The outcome of this line of thought is understanding that google does not know what the

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Queru
You should really move this thread to android-discuss, so that people who are actually trying to achieve something here don't see their discussions lost in the noise. Thanks, JBQ On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Schiffres wrote: > > This is a message to all other Android Developers, bloggers, o

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Al Sutton
Carl, I'm going to put the other side of the argument so we can look at this in a balanced way; Apparently 96% of submitted apps get accepted to the iPhone store, and Market also includes a "we can pull it if we want to" clause http://www.android.com/us/developer-distribution-agreement.html i

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-18 Thread Carl Whalley
These killer features the iPhone has that Android doesn't ... do they include multitasking, MMS, forwarding SMS, or even such advanced features as cut n paste? How about the excitement developers go through wondering if the apps they spent months/years on will be allowed on the only way they can b

[android-developers] Re: Putting Android on Par with the iPhone Software

2009-03-17 Thread Al Sutton
I'm pretty sure Google makes a small cut on app purchases via it's checkout fees which are included in the 30%. Beyond that unless you've got access to all the legal agreements you can't say for sure that the OHA or other organisations aren't contributing something to Googles development costs