[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-11-09 Thread CH
Hi Greivin, if you look into the 1.6 Android framework source, you see that telephony.gsm.SmsManager is only a proxy for telephony.SmsManager. So if you start a SDK 1.5 app on 1.6 it automatically (indirectly) uses the telephony.SmsManager with all it's features. Here's the snippet of the

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-16 Thread Greivin Lopez
Thank you Mark. It sounds very interesting!, specially the JavaPP link. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-14 Thread Doug
In a perfect world you would be right about @Deprecated - but I have seen an example in the 1.6 SDK where a method has been @Deprecated with the 1.6 release, along with some nice comments on how to do things the new way, only to find that in this case @Deprecated actually means the method has

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-14 Thread Greivin Lopez
Thanks to jotobjects and EboMike for their responses. I will try to describe my situation better: I have an application that send SMS messages by using SmsManager class. In the SDK 1.5 version of the application (I mean I set 1.5 as the Project Build Target) everything works fine because I use

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-14 Thread gnugu
Greivin, If you had conditional compile you would have to compile two versions of your application anyway, wouldn't you? So your users would be equally confused as if you maintained two versions of the code. Maintaining two versions of the code isn't that confusing. In fact I personally think

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-14 Thread jotobjects
Also 1.6 introduces android:targetSdkVersion, which allows you to say the higher version of the platform you are designed for, while still leaving android:minSdkVersion to the minimum version you support. This allows you Hi Greivin - From looking at the 1.6 reference docs it appears that BOTH

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-14 Thread gnugu
Can somebody explain what this means? the platform should not perform any extra work to maintain forward- compatibility with the target version. Specifying this target version allows the platform to disable compatibility settings Is it install time or runtime? What exactly are compatibility

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-14 Thread Greivin Lopez
jotobjects I'm going to try what you suggest. It seems more like what I'm looking for. And also let you know what was the result. Thanks. With conditional compilation I refer of something more like an attribute that let you tell the compiler to either use one method or another. I would like to

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-14 Thread Mark Murphy
Greivin Lopez wrote: jotobjects I'm going to try what you suggest. It seems more like what I'm looking for. And also let you know what was the result. Thanks. With conditional compilation I refer of something more like an attribute that let you tell the compiler to either use one method or

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-13 Thread jotobjects
Deprecated classes and methods still work but they are a notification to developers that they will be dropped eventually so new code should not use them and updates should stop using them. There should be a compiler warning if you use an @Deprecated method and it should show as deprecated in the

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-09 Thread Greivin Lopez
I have a question related to backward compatibility in Android. My applications uses SmsManager class that was deprecated in SDK 1.5 and moved to other package in SDK 1.6 to support CDMA. That's OK. The problem is I want to support 1.5 SDK and also being able to use the new SmsManager class. I

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-09 Thread EboMike
I haven't tried using a deprecated class in 1.6 - is it marked as deprecated, and the compiler refuses to process it? There is a compiler flag for that. Or is it gone completely? You need to consider the way the JVM works. The class manager will not load a class until it is referenced (in ANY

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-09 Thread Greivin Lopez
Thanks Mike. Your answer was very useful. I think I'm going to keep a version supporting CDMA and another one for GSM. At least until new CDMA Android devices reach the market. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-08 Thread EboMike
There's also a great article on the developer blog about using newer API with an old target: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/backward-compatibility-for-android.html I'm extensively using 1.5 features in my app while still maintaing compatibility with 1.1. The key is to set the

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-08 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Also 1.6 introduces android:targetSdkVersion, which allows you to say the higher version of the platform you are designed for, while still leaving android:minSdkVersion to the minimum version you support. This allows you to turn off compatibility code that would otherwise be run for an

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-08 Thread gnugu
Thank you both for your answers! They are both very good and I'll keep them in my back pocket. I have decided to abandon API 2 and set minimum to API 3. I don't believe there is that many 1.1 phones left out there. Strangely after I did that my downloads went up rapidly. It's probably unrelated

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-08 Thread EboMike
Every time you update your app, it will show on top of the what's new lists, so a lot of people discover it and download it. Some people may try to game the market and push regular updates just to benefit from that spike. However, many users hate constant updates, so expect lots of too many

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-08 Thread gnugu
Mike, thanks for the insight. No, I would never game the market like that, but it's good to know how the things work. On Oct 8, 1:15 pm, EboMike ebom...@gmail.com wrote: Every time you update your app, it will show on top of the what's new lists, so a lot of people discover it and download

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-07 Thread Dianne Hackborn
You can use any newer XML attributes, and they will be ignored on older platforms. So just specify the appropriate attributes for the IME for the newer platforms. (And also be sure to still test on older platforms, if you really care about that. I don't think there are a ton of devices left at

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-07 Thread gnugu
Just to make sure I understand you correctly, I set the API level in my app to 3 and when someone runs it on Android 1.1 the attributes will be ignored? Because when I keep the API level at 2 the project will not compile (at least in Eclipse). On Oct 7, 10:13 am, Dianne Hackborn

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-07 Thread Dianne Hackborn
If you set it to 3 it won't be installed on older devices. I don't know enough about the dev tools to help with compiling problems there (especially without even seeing the error message). On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:18 AM, gnugu rho...@gmail.com wrote: Just to make sure I understand you