[android-developers] Re: G1 linux
I forgot to add that accessing bluez directly is only possible from native code, which is not officially supported by official system images like the one on the G1. For normal applications, we provide a Java Bluetooth API wrapping bluez, but which currently covers only a small subset of the stack. Hopefully, this should expand progressively as time goes, though I have no ETA for new related features. On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:08 AM, David Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the Bluetooth stack used in Android is bluez, i.e. the same one than standard Linux distributions, if that can help. and, this just in, you may consider buying an unlocked and flashable Android developer device for your project. This is the same hardware than the G1 but will allow you to add any kind of native code to the system. see http://code.google.com/android/dev-devices.html hope this helps, On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hum, ok. But what i am trying to do is some kind of API to work with the Bluetooth, cause i need to connect the G1 with some heart rate sensors via bluetooth. So if it is linux i can do it, but if not, i don't know how to do it. So i don't wanna make an application. Is this possible? On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Diego Torres Milano [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of information? Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available in a Linux system. Thanks, Rui --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 linux
I might go moko or blackberry... waiting for BT in droid is a pain.. see my code and wiki on this here: http://code.google.com/p/zephyropen/ On Nov 22, 8:54 am, Aurelio Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim: Is it possible to run Openmoko SO on other hardware than Freerunner? (thinking on iPaq hx 4700). Same question would apply to Android. I think it's time to re-use old machines: better for Nature and our poor economy (i do no not care about big companies: they do care about themselves). Thx On 22 nov, 16:05, Jim Ancona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're not wedded to the G1, you might consider the Openmoko Freerunner (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner), which has Bluetooth, Wifi and GPS and runs several Linux distributions, as well as Android. Jim On Nov 21, 3:56 pm, clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, but if his phone has upgraded to RC30 yet, then he could get root access and install debian alongside android which is detailed herehttp://www.saurik.com/id/10. Another possibility would be to hope that Android is upgraded to allow access to the bluetooth hardware through the SDK. Then you could right a little java app to get the job done. On Nov 18, 3:07 pm, Diego Torres Milano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of information? Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available in a Linux system. Thanks, Rui- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Ocultar texto de la cita - - Mostrar texto de la cita - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux
pLeAsE bArE tHiS iN MiNd; *http://tinyurl.com/2yqfx2* Ralf wrote: Plus One. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Dianne Hackborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because He Was Enthralled By The Awesomeness Of It, Like I Am Too. It Is Awesome! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why Did You Say That? On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been an awesome thread. On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So that means the G1 Does! Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Android is and has always been built on top of Linux. JBQ On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon? -- Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux
This has been an awesome thread. On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So that means the G1 Does! Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Android is and has always been built on top of Linux. JBQ On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux
Why Did You Say That? On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been an awesome thread. On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So that means the G1 Does! Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Android is and has always been built on top of Linux. JBQ On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon? -- Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux
Because He Was Enthralled By The Awesomeness Of It, Like I Am Too. It Is Awesome! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Why Did You Say That? On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been an awesome thread. On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So that means the G1 Does! Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Android is and has always been built on top of Linux. JBQ On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon? -- Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux
Totally! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Dianne Hackborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because He Was Enthralled By The Awesomeness Of It, Like I Am Too. It Is Awesome! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why Did You Say That? On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been an awesome thread. On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So that means the G1 Does! Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Android is and has always been built on top of Linux. JBQ On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon? -- Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux
Plus One. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Dianne Hackborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because He Was Enthralled By The Awesomeness Of It, Like I Am Too. It Is Awesome! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why Did You Say That? On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been an awesome thread. On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, Xavier Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So that means the G1 Does! Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Android is and has always been built on top of Linux. JBQ On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon? -- Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux
Android is and has always been built on top of Linux. JBQ On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux
So that means the G1 Does! Xavier A. Mathews Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist Hazel Crest Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Android is and has always been built on top of Linux. JBQ On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 linux
True, but if his phone has upgraded to RC30 yet, then he could get root access and install debian alongside android which is detailed here http://www.saurik.com/id/10. Another possibility would be to hope that Android is upgraded to allow access to the bluetooth hardware through the SDK. Then you could right a little java app to get the job done. On Nov 18, 3:07 pm, Diego Torres Milano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of information? Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available in a Linux system. Thanks, Rui- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 linux
Hi Jim: Is it possible to run Openmoko SO on other hardware than Freerunner? (thinking on iPaq hx 4700). Same question would apply to Android. I think it's time to re-use old machines: better for Nature and our poor economy (i do no not care about big companies: they do care about themselves). Thx On 22 nov, 16:05, Jim Ancona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're not wedded to the G1, you might consider the Openmoko Freerunner (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner), which has Bluetooth, Wifi and GPS and runs several Linux distributions, as well as Android. Jim On Nov 21, 3:56 pm, clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, but if his phone has upgraded to RC30 yet, then he could get root access and install debian alongside android which is detailed herehttp://www.saurik.com/id/10. Another possibility would be to hope that Android is upgraded to allow access to the bluetooth hardware through the SDK. Then you could right a little java app to get the job done. On Nov 18, 3:07 pm, Diego Torres Milano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of information? Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available in a Linux system. Thanks, Rui- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Ocultar texto de la cita - - Mostrar texto de la cita - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 linux
Then why don't you make if for Symbian/iPhone/Windows Mobile? They support bluetooth and Android will too, in a couple of months. Hacking bt in will render your app useless for other phones, and a system update could break your app. On Nov 19, 12:22 am, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hum, ok. But what i am trying to do is some kind of API to work with the Bluetooth, cause i need to connect the G1 with some heart rate sensors via bluetooth. So if it is linux i can do it, but if not, i don't know how to do it. So i don't wanna make an application. Is this possible? On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Diego Torres Milano [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of information? Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available in a Linux system. Thanks, Rui --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 linux
Thanks for your help. Well, iPhone doesn't support Bluetooth and i don't like windows mobile. I need to investigate the Symbian plataform, but i saw a couple of linux devices and i will probabably use them cause i'm more used to linux than Symbian plataform. Regards. On 2008/11/19, at 06:03, MrSnowflake wrote: Then why don't you make if for Symbian/iPhone/Windows Mobile? They support bluetooth and Android will too, in a couple of months. Hacking bt in will render your app useless for other phones, and a system update could break your app. On Nov 19, 12:22 am, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hum, ok. But what i am trying to do is some kind of API to work with the Bluetooth, cause i need to connect the G1 with some heart rate sensors via bluetooth. So if it is linux i can do it, but if not, i don't know how to do it. So i don't wanna make an application. Is this possible? On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Diego Torres Milano [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of information? Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available in a Linux system. Thanks, Rui --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 linux
On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of information? Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available in a Linux system. Thanks, Rui --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
