Re: [android-developers] Re: Showing Overflow menu button on ICS.
On Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:12:59 UTC+2, Dianne Hackborn wrote: It's a bug in the app; the app isn't using the standard action bar. Btw what is the rationale for the system to never display the overflow menu on ICS phones having a hardware menu key ? Isn't that bad for discoverability, one of the benefits of the overflow menu ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Showing Overflow menu button on ICS.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:54 AM, b0b pujos.mich...@gmail.com wrote: Btw what is the rationale for the system to never display the overflow menu on ICS phones having a hardware menu key ? Isn't that bad for discoverability, one of the benefits of the overflow menu ? It would be redundant, and this behavior is consist with the long standing UX for devices with a physical menu button. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Showing Overflow menu button on ICS.
On Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:01:26 UTC+2, Dianne Hackborn wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:54 AM, b0b wrote: Btw what is the rationale for the system to never display the overflow menu on ICS phones having a hardware menu key ? Isn't that bad for discoverability, one of the benefits of the overflow menu ? It would be redundant, and this behavior is consist with the long standing UX for devices with a physical menu button. This is really dabatable and a matter of personal opinion...I would have liked the Action Bar of my app to look the same weather there is a physical menu button or not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Showing Overflow menu button on ICS.
But why do the google apps (like Google+) use overflow in the action bar on
devices with physical menu button if this is considered bad?
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2012 22:30:49 UTC+2 schrieb Dianne Hackborn:
Oh good lord, don't freaking do that.
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:10 PM, b0b pujos.mich...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless I missed something in the previous discussions, or there has
been a breakthrough since, there is NO possible way to make the
overflow button show up if there is a physical hardware key.
There is. With hack below you can force the appearance of the overflow
menu even if there is a physical button menu
with target SDK = 14. Of course you must never use it since it is a
horrible hack, and nobody shall use hacks ever, especially on Android !
static public void setHasPermanentMenuKey(Context context, boolean value)
{
if (isICSOrLater()) {
ViewConfiguration config = ViewConfiguration.get(context);
try {
Field f = ViewConfiguration.class
.getDeclaredField(sHasPermanentMenuKey);
f.setAccessible(true);
if (f != null) {
f.set(config, value);
log.info(Successfully hacked permanent menu key);
}
} catch (Exception ex) {
log.info(Unable to hack permanent menu key: + ex);
}
}
}
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Showing Overflow menu button on ICS.
They might have their own action bar implementation, just like gmail on 2.*
uses its own, rather than the framework's Quick Contact Badge (you can tell
on HTC devices, which has a modified version of this class in their
firmware).
11.07.2012 17:46 пользователь Kiview shaolin.aven...@googlemail.com
написал:
But why do the google apps (like Google+) use overflow in the action bar
on devices with physical menu button if this is considered bad?
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2012 22:30:49 UTC+2 schrieb Dianne Hackborn:
Oh good lord, don't freaking do that.
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:10 PM, b0b pujos.mich...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless I missed something in the previous discussions, or there has
been a breakthrough since, there is NO possible way to make the
overflow button show up if there is a physical hardware key.
There is. With hack below you can force the appearance of the overflow
menu even if there is a physical button menu
with target SDK = 14. Of course you must never use it since it is a
horrible hack, and nobody shall use hacks ever, especially on Android !
static public void setHasPermanentMenuKey(Context context, boolean
value) {
if (isICSOrLater()) {
ViewConfiguration config = ViewConfiguration.get(context)**;
try {
Field f = ViewConfiguration.class
.getDeclaredField(**sHasPermanentMenuKey);
f.setAccessible(true);
if (f != null) {
f.set(config, value);
log.info(Successfully hacked permanent menu key);
}
} catch (Exception ex) {
log.info(Unable to hack permanent menu key: + ex);
}
}
}
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Showing Overflow menu button on ICS.
It's a bug in the app; the app isn't using the standard action bar.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Kiview shaolin.aven...@googlemail.comwrote:
But why do the google apps (like Google+) use overflow in the action bar
on devices with physical menu button if this is considered bad?
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2012 22:30:49 UTC+2 schrieb Dianne Hackborn:
Oh good lord, don't freaking do that.
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:10 PM, b0b pujos.mich...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless I missed something in the previous discussions, or there has
been a breakthrough since, there is NO possible way to make the
overflow button show up if there is a physical hardware key.
There is. With hack below you can force the appearance of the overflow
menu even if there is a physical button menu
with target SDK = 14. Of course you must never use it since it is a
horrible hack, and nobody shall use hacks ever, especially on Android !
static public void setHasPermanentMenuKey(Context context, boolean
value) {
if (isICSOrLater()) {
ViewConfiguration config = ViewConfiguration.get(context)**;
try {
Field f = ViewConfiguration.class
.getDeclaredField(**sHasPermanentMenuKey);
f.setAccessible(true);
if (f != null) {
f.set(config, value);
log.info(Successfully hacked permanent menu key);
}
} catch (Exception ex) {
log.info(Unable to hack permanent menu key: + ex);
}
}
}
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[android-developers] Re: Showing Overflow menu button on ICS.
On Jun 5, 10:25 am, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: Particularly for those users who have Android 2.x devices that get upgraded to ICS, they will already be used to pressing MENU to get the options menu Well that assumes they have ever found that out to begin with. ;) I have my doubts. Doubts so strong, in fact, that I have included an overflow button on my home grown ActionBar in 2X. And be sure to tell Jennifer that we all said hi!. :-) Certainly. The sun is not up there yet. Nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Showing Overflow menu button on ICS.
Unless I missed something in the previous discussions, or there has
been a breakthrough since, there is NO possible way to make the
overflow button show up if there is a physical hardware key.
There is. With hack below you can force the appearance of the overflow menu
even if there is a physical button menu
with target SDK = 14. Of course you must never use it since it is a
horrible hack, and nobody shall use hacks ever, especially on Android !
static public void setHasPermanentMenuKey(Context context, boolean value) {
if (isICSOrLater()) {
ViewConfiguration config = ViewConfiguration.get(context);
try {
Field f = ViewConfiguration.class
.getDeclaredField(sHasPermanentMenuKey);
f.setAccessible(true);
if (f != null) {
f.set(config, value);
log.info(Successfully hacked permanent menu key);
}
} catch (Exception ex) {
log.info(Unable to hack permanent menu key: + ex);
}
}
}
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Showing Overflow menu button on ICS.
Oh good lord, don't freaking do that.
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:10 PM, b0b pujos.mich...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless I missed something in the previous discussions, or there has
been a breakthrough since, there is NO possible way to make the
overflow button show up if there is a physical hardware key.
There is. With hack below you can force the appearance of the overflow
menu even if there is a physical button menu
with target SDK = 14. Of course you must never use it since it is a
horrible hack, and nobody shall use hacks ever, especially on Android !
static public void setHasPermanentMenuKey(Context context, boolean value)
{
if (isICSOrLater()) {
ViewConfiguration config = ViewConfiguration.get(context);
try {
Field f = ViewConfiguration.class
.getDeclaredField(sHasPermanentMenuKey);
f.setAccessible(true);
if (f != null) {
f.set(config, value);
log.info(Successfully hacked permanent menu key);
}
} catch (Exception ex) {
log.info(Unable to hack permanent menu key: + ex);
}
}
}
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