Re: [android-developers] Re: Crash dumps - Market vs Homegrown

2010-06-25 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
Not sure about 2.x versions but I'm sure that my 1.6 does not support it.
And there is till about 50% devices running 1.x versions.

Tom

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Lance Nanek lna...@gmail.com wrote:

 I‘ve seen Android's built-in crash report option on my Nexus One
 running 2.1-update1, so it isn't limited to just Froyo, at least. That
 said, it does require the user to manually press the report and then
 send buttons after a crash. I imagine an automatic system that
 requires no work on the user's part would capture more stack traces.
 Like how Google My Maps are public by default, or how the Replica
 Island app sends data about where users die and the like by default
 unless a user explicitly turns it off in the settings.

 On Jun 23, 8:36 pm, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote:
  I've been using a home grown crash dump send during a beta period. It
  coudl be redundant - or confusing now that the market has one.
 
  Am I right in thinking I won't need that once the app is on the
  market?
 
  Or is the crash dump ability in the market limited to certain
  devices?
 
  Any thoughts?
 
  Nathan

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Crash dumps - Market vs Homegrown

2010-06-24 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
There is one other important benefit to homegrown solutions: they can 
provide more information than just the stack trace.


Not all problems are crashes or ANRs, and even then, not all of them can 
be understood by looking at a stack trace.


Building app-specific logs with relevant info on e.g. various state 
changes can only be done with custom solutions for now.


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24.06.2010 18:51, MobDev пишет:

afaik not ALL existing devices will get an update to Froyo, so yes I
guess there is still use for ACRA !

On 24 jun, 12:08, Tomáš  Hubálektom.huba...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

Nathan, I belive that homegrown (eg. ACRA -http://code.google.com/p/acra/)
is must untl Froyo and newer become majority. Correct me if I'm wrong
but on older version of Android there is no way how to get info about
errors.

BTW: I'm using ACRA in all my apps and it made my apps much better.
Thanks to ACRA dev.

Tom

On 24 čvn, 02:36, Nathancritter...@crittermap.com  wrote:

 

I've been using a home grown crash dump send during a beta period. It
coudl be redundant - or confusing now that the market has one.
   
 

Am I right in thinking I won't need that once the app is on the
market?
   
 

Or is the crash dump ability in the market limited to certain
devices?
   
 

Any thoughts?
   
 

Nathan
   


 
   



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RE: [android-developers] Re: Crash dumps - Market vs Homegrown

2010-06-24 Thread Paul Gee
ACRA looks very useful and potentially more robust than my current method. 
However I notice that it uses a class (CrashReportingApplication) extended from 
android.app.Application. 

I already have a class in my app extended from android.app.Application so does 
that mean I cannot use ACRA or that I somehow have to combine my class with the 
ACRA one? Or can I have two classes extended from android.app.Application in my 
program?

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Subject: Re: [android-developers] Re: Crash dumps - Market vs Homegrown

There is one other important benefit to homegrown solutions: they can 
provide more information than just the stack trace.

Not all problems are crashes or ANRs, and even then, not all of them can 
be understood by looking at a stack trace.

Building app-specific logs with relevant info on e.g. various state 
changes can only be done with custom solutions for now.

-- Kostya

24.06.2010 18:51, MobDev пишет:
 afaik not ALL existing devices will get an update to Froyo, so yes I
 guess there is still use for ACRA !

 On 24 jun, 12:08, Tomáš  Hubálektom.huba...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Nathan, I belive that homegrown (eg. ACRA -http://code.google.com/p/acra/)
 is must untl Froyo and newer become majority. Correct me if I'm wrong
 but on older version of Android there is no way how to get info about
 errors.

 BTW: I'm using ACRA in all my apps and it made my apps much better.
 Thanks to ACRA dev.

 Tom

 On 24 čvn, 02:36, Nathancritter...@crittermap.com  wrote:

  
 I've been using a home grown crash dump send during a beta period. It
 coudl be redundant - or confusing now that the market has one.

  
 Am I right in thinking I won't need that once the app is on the
 market?

  
 Or is the crash dump ability in the market limited to certain
 devices?

  
 Any thoughts?

  
 Nathan


  



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