Re: [Angstrom-devel] RFC: ipv6 support in angstrom

2007-12-05 Thread Fernando de Francisco
Ipv6 gives some support for mobility features compared to Ipv4.

Handhelds and embedded devices should behave just as a mobile phone. I
mean: if a user moves, the device should be able to keep the connection
active, being reachable while changing its address.

Furthermore, mobile devices (meaning any device capable of moving)
should be able to autoconfigurate when switched on if any RADV router
is at sight.

Regards,

Fernando

El mar, 04-12-2007 a las 23:49 +, Paul M escribió:
 On 04/12/2007, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * enabling the ipv6 kernel module on all network capable devices
  angstrom wants to support.
 
 
 I don't know of any UK internet providers doing much with ipv6, some
 use it internally, some provide a tunnel for it to their customers,
 but overall it's still a niche thing.
 
 How much bloat does it add?
 
 Don't get me wrong, I'm very keen to see ipv6 appear everywhere, but
 I'm not sure handhelds and embedded devices need it!
 
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Re: [Angstrom-devel] RFC: ipv6 support in angstrom

2007-12-05 Thread Koen Kooi
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Paul M schreef:
 On 04/12/2007, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * enabling the ipv6 kernel module on all network capable devices
 angstrom wants to support.
 
 
 I don't know of any UK internet providers doing much with ipv6, some
 use it internally, some provide a tunnel for it to their customers,
 but overall it's still a niche thing.
 
 How much bloat does it add?

At most a few bytes in the kernel for the module entrypoints, the rest
requires people to either install the kernel module(s) themselves or
install a rootfs with those in it.

regards,

Koen


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Re: [Angstrom-devel] RFC: ipv6 support in angstrom

2007-12-05 Thread Koen Kooi
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Fernando de Francisco schreef:
 Ipv6 gives some support for mobility features compared to Ipv4.
 
 Handhelds and embedded devices should behave just as a mobile phone. I
 mean: if a user moves, the device should be able to keep the connection
 active, being reachable while changing its address.

If you have a Home Agent (HA), then you can have the device always
reachable by the same ipv6 address. The HA catches new incoming
connections and tells the remote end that your device is a mobile node
and they should connect to a different IP. Sort of like dyndns.org, but
on address level.

 Furthermore, mobile devices (meaning any device capable of moving)
 should be able to autoconfigurate when switched on if any RADV router
 is at sight.

That's a standard ipv6 feature and one of the reasons that DHCPv6 is
massively unpopular. Is radvd in OE btw?

regards,

Koen

 Regards,
 
 Fernando
 
 El mar, 04-12-2007 a las 23:49 +, Paul M escribió:
 On 04/12/2007, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * enabling the ipv6 kernel module on all network capable devices
 angstrom wants to support.

 I don't know of any UK internet providers doing much with ipv6, some
 use it internally, some provide a tunnel for it to their customers,
 but overall it's still a niche thing.

 How much bloat does it add?

 Don't get me wrong, I'm very keen to see ipv6 appear everywhere, but
 I'm not sure handhelds and embedded devices need it!

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Re: [Angstrom-devel] RFC: ipv6 support in angstrom

2007-12-05 Thread Paul M
OK, sounds good to me, I'm persuaded!

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[Angstrom-devel] RFC: ipv6 support in angstrom

2007-12-04 Thread Koen Kooi
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Hi,

I want to propose the following:

* enabling the ipv6 kernel module on all network capable devices
angstrom wants to support.
* enabling the mip6 kernel module on capable kernels (afaik vanilla
2.6.23 or patches 2.6.x)
* have ipv6 support enabled in the c library and busybox

Some machines already do all this, but afaik we don't have a policy for
it yet.

regards,

Koen

PS: if other interest groups (e.g. the NAS people) need modules (e.g.
cryptoloop), please send a similar RFC. Having kernel configs match
where possible saves a lot of debugging effort.

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