[AngularJS] Re: New Website Development Pace too slow??

[Patrice]

Hello Sander,

I must say I agree with you : NoSQL is not the ultimate answer, as well as 
Relational Databases are not always the best answer for all the 
applications.
I thought you were saying the considering NoSQL was a sign of inexperience; 
I should have read 'On the other hand, it might just fit the 
specification.' !

It is always a pleasure to exchange with you !

Patrice

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[AngularJS] Re: New Website Development Pace too slow??

[Sander Elias]

Hi Patrice,

Sarah, isn't even mentioning ACID, that's all me. I'm glad they now have it 
for single documents. Her post is more on schemeless DB versus 
traditional DB's and things like transactions., joining, and all the things 
that make a DB tick.
Thing is, the problem is the lack of scheme, and the need to replicate 
stuff. If your DB grows in complexity, you need to denormalize the data to 
be able to cope with the changing requirements. 
Denormalizing and nonrelational databases, don't go well together.  You can 
use something as Mongo as a cache in front of a relational DB, No problem 
there.
Some workloads are suited for a noSQL solution, but as practice learned us, 
that's not always the case. 
I still stand by my words. That doesn't mean NoSQL databases are unfit for 
all goals but preferring them as the main solution for everything still 
might be a sigh of an inexperienced team. 

Regards
Sander

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[AngularJS] Re: New Website Development Pace too slow??

[Patrice]

Hi Sander,

I think Sarah Mai's post is a little bit outdated.
MongoDB is quite mature now : ACID is OK for single documents and is due 
for next release (summer), for multi-document (see MongoDB Drops ACID 

 ).
Evaluating MongoDB five years in the past is like talking about AngularJS / 
Material 1 vs Angular 6 / Material 6...

Regards,
Patrice

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[AngularJS] Re: New Website Development Pace too slow??

[Sander Elias]

Hi Patrice,

Sarah Mai has worked out most of the reasons in a blog post: 
   http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2013/11/11/why-you-should-never-use-mongodb/

Also, check out what ACID is. I'm not sure if mongo is compliant now, but 
it wasn't last time I checked.

Regards
Sander

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[AngularJS] Re: New Website Development Pace too slow??

[Patrice]

Hi Sander,

Just because I am curious : why do you think that, because MongoDB is in 
the stack, this is might be sign of inexperience ?

Regards,

Patrice

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[AngularJS] Re: New Website Development Pace too slow??

[Sander Elias]

Hi David,

It's hard to judge on progress. Looking at the stack, one would expect 
quicker iterations, but as I said, it's hard to judge, as I don't know all 
the ins and outs. To make more as an guess, I need all the specs, and 
progress reports and so on, and it will still be hard to judge.

What I do notice, is that there is MongoDB in the stack, this is might be 
sign of inexperience. On the other hand, it might just fit the 
specification.

Regards
Sander

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