Re: [Anima] [homenet] write up of time without clocks

2016-11-03 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Toerless, On 11/3/16 8:54 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Eliot Lear wrote: >> Hi Brian, >> >> Before we start imagining what the requirements in such situations are, >> are they at all written somewhere? Otherwise we run the risk of >> inventing a lot o

Re: [Anima] Use of GRSP in discovery (was: Re: GRASP issue 55: Could discovery be performed over TCP?)

2016-11-03 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 04/11/2016 11:55, Toerless Eckert wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 10:34:39AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: >> I have no problem with the use of a GRASP multicast discovery here. >> >> I wonder about the utility of the GRASP unicast TCP response to the ACP >> discovery. > > See my last ema

Re: [Anima] Use of GRSP in discovery (was: Re: GRASP issue 55: Could discovery be performed over TCP?)

2016-11-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 10:42:32PM +, Max Pritikin (pritikin) wrote: > Taken to the extreme one could argue that we need ANI to be self-contined so > depending on IP seems wrong. Can you explain where you think ANI depends on IP in a fashion you ae calling "wrong" ? Cheers Toerless > Th

Re: [Anima] Use of GRSP in discovery (was: Re: GRASP issue 55: Could discovery be performed over TCP?)

2016-11-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 01:59:17PM +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > I will read that carefully, but for me that doesn't need justification, > because > we need the ANI to be self-contained, so depending on mDNS seems wrong. (In > fact, why wouldn't configuring mDNS/DNS-SD/DNS be an autonomic func

Re: [Anima] Use of GRSP in discovery (was: Re: GRASP issue 55: Could discovery be performed over TCP?)

2016-11-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 10:34:39AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > I have no problem with the use of a GRASP multicast discovery here. > > I wonder about the utility of the GRASP unicast TCP response to the ACP > discovery. See my last email to Brian et.al. on the signaling list, aka: GRASP

[Anima] Desaster recover... (was: Re: [homenet] write up of time without clocks)

2016-11-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
IMHO, gear replacement after large outages is quite relevant: I have seen equipment become unusable after bad power situations (spike, brownout, electrical storms,..) because of el-cheapo power supply/circuitry as well as wired interface circuitry/protection. Certifications in Telco/IoT make that

Re: [Anima] [homenet] write up of time without clocks

2016-11-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Eliot Lear wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Before we start imagining what the requirements in such situations are, > are they at all written somewhere? Otherwise we run the risk of > inventing a lot of mechanism to deal with a non-existent use case. Not being Bria

Re: [Anima] [homenet] write up of time without clocks

2016-11-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Eliot Lear wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Before we start imagining what the requirements in such situations are, > are they at all written somewhere? Otherwise we run the risk of > inventing a lot of mechanism to deal with a non-existent use case. Not being Bria