Re: [Anima] Consolidated floods [was Signing GRASP objectives]

2022-08-25 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 26-Aug-22 08:59, Michael Richardson wrote: Brian E Carpenter wrote: > (b) but it could be implemented *on top* of the current > definition of GRASP, if the floods in question were issued with a loop > count of 1 (so they would never be relayed per RFC8990), and there was

Re: [Anima] Consolidated floods [was Signing GRASP objectives]

2022-08-25 Thread Michael Richardson
Brian E Carpenter wrote: > (b) but it could be implemented *on top* of the current > definition of GRASP, if the floods in question were issued with a loop > count of 1 (so they would never be relayed per RFC8990), and there was > a flood consolidator - effectively just a special

[Anima] Consolidated floods [was Signing GRASP objectives]

2022-08-25 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 26-Aug-22 03:58, Michael Richardson wrote: Toerless Eckert wrote: > Could as well simply be a function which buffers flood-messages over a > period of e.g.: 60 seconds and coalesces them together, so it's > transparent to the originators (loose coupling). > So, now i

Re: [Anima] ACP vs. Data plane Re: Signing GRASP objectives [Was: Extending GRASP messages and signing GRASP multicasts]

2022-08-25 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: > I can not link ICN to the use-cases you describe. I could however > easily map the resilient light-switch use-case to multicast and GRASP: okay. > Light switches could M_FLOOD instructions, such as in old building > automation: GROUP_123 on/off. And

Re: [Anima] Signing GRASP objectives [Was: Extending GRASP messages and signing GRASP multicasts]

2022-08-25 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: > Could as well simply be a function which buffers flood-messages over a > period of e.g.: 60 seconds and coalesces them together, so it's > transparent to the originators (loose coupling). > So, now i have a single flood-message with multiple objectives,

Re: [Anima] Signing GRASP objectives [Was: Extending GRASP messages and signing GRASP multicasts]

2022-08-25 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 08:33:43PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: >> >> Brian E Carpenter wrote: > I need to >> understand epochs a bit better. I wonder whether an epoch > boundary >> should define when session-id repetition becomes OK (even if >

[Anima] ACP vs. Data plane Re: Signing GRASP objectives [Was: Extending GRASP messages and signing GRASP multicasts]

2022-08-25 Thread Toerless Eckert
Changing subject because i think this is a broader/different discussion than GRASP signature/extensions I can not link ICN to the use-cases you describe. I could however easily map the resilient light-switch use-case to multicast and GRASP: Light switches could M_FLOOD instructions, such as in

Re: [Anima] Signing GRASP objectives [Was: Extending GRASP messages and signing GRASP multicasts]

2022-08-25 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 08:33:43PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > I need to understand epochs a bit better. I wonder whether an epoch > > boundary should define when session-id repetition becomes OK (even if > > highly improbable). There's a

Re: [Anima] Signing GRASP objectives [Was: Extending GRASP messages and signing GRASP multicasts]

2022-08-25 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 04:57:21PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > > What I don’t understand is why the signature then needs to be encoded > > as part of the objective. Why can’t I sign a combination of objectives > > that are only valid as that combination? > > I think it could