Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-11-04 Thread Esko Dijk
] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022 On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 10:33:47AM +, Michael Richardson wrote: > > How would you deal with proxies that are on frequencies where the duty > cycle > > is limited by law. For example devices

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-11-03 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: >> Your 868 system might be unable to complete onboarding, or maybe it will take >> an hour. > I have to admit i do not even managed to figure out the nominal bitrate best case > for he 969 Mhz system ;-) But also the ZWave "Interview" (the system i am

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-11-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 10:33:47AM +, Michael Richardson wrote: > > How would you deal with proxies that are on frequencies where the duty > cycle > > is limited by law. For example devices on my 868 home automation > network needs to maintain > > a 1%/hour duty cycle. > > "by

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-11-03 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 07:49:06AM +, Esko Dijk wrote: >> For the stateless proxy, it is hard to determine a good rate limit number. 1% is not good because it would slow down the joining process of a genuine Pledge to a crawl. Some strategies that could

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-11-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
> advertised. Right. likewise for DNS-SD (with or without GRASP). Cheers toerless > > Regards > Esko > > -Original Message- > From: Toerless Eckert > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 21:24 > To: Esko Dijk > Cc: Michael Richardson ; Anima WG ; > anima

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022 / 6.1.1. Discovery example fix?

2022-10-23 Thread Michael Richardson
Esko Dijk wrote: --> For completeness the server should also respond with the BRSKI root resource, which matches the filter. So: > RES: 2.05 Content > ;rt=brski.rjp, > ;rt=brski, okay. > The motivation why to do this particular query is not so clear in the > document.

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-10-23 Thread Michael Richardson
Esko Dijk wrote: > For the stateless proxy, it is hard to determine a good rate limit > number. 1% is not good because it would slow down the joining process > of a genuine Pledge to a crawl. Some strategies that could work better: > 1. Initially allow a (near) unlimited use of

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-10-23 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: > For the stateful proxy, the pull request from my review i sent last friday suggests the > following text: > To protect itself and the Registrar against malfunctioning Pledges > and or denial of service attacks, the join proxy SHOULD limit the >

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-10-23 Thread Michael Richardson
Hi, I've just rewriten the JPY message to be an actual CoAP header as discussed at the CORE/IOTOPS meeting on Oct12. I'll post an email to CORE@ and ANIMA@ about that part, where I have a few technical questions. The result of that effort is at:

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-10-12 Thread Esko Dijk
that at least. For CoAP discovery at least some "service availability parameter" could be defined in general so that it can be used for any types of services/resources advertised. Regards Esko -Original Message- From: Toerless Eckert Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 21:24 To: E

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-09-26 Thread Toerless Eckert
ideration. > For a mesh network, avoiding an outsider to be able to "load" the mesh links > with random data is especially important. Indeed. Hopefully the #state and rate limiters proposed above would be sufficient to get past this point ? Cheers Toerless > > Regards

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022 / 6.1.1. Discovery example fix?

2022-09-21 Thread Esko Dijk
m: Michael Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 12:31 To: Esko Dijk Cc: Anima WG ; anima-cha...@ietf.org; stokcons Subject: Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022 Okay, thank you. I'll crunch through your comments on Friday.

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-09-21 Thread Esko Dijk
ay, September 21, 2022 12:31 To: Esko Dijk Cc: Anima WG ; anima-cha...@ietf.org; stokcons Subject: Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022 Okay, thank you. I'll crunch through your comments on Friday. ___ Anima mailing list Anima@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-09-21 Thread Michael Richardson
Okay, thank you. I'll crunch through your comments on Friday. ___ Anima mailing list Anima@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima

Re: [Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-09-20 Thread Esko Dijk
is only mentioned in 6.3.2 and this says that 6tisch is not even using the present protocol. -Original Message----- From: Anima On Behalf Of Toerless Eckert Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 19:13 To: Anima WG ; anima-cha...@ietf.org; rwil...@cisco.com; ops-...@ietf.org Subject: [Ani

[Anima] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-12, ends September 20th 2022

2022-09-06 Thread Toerless Eckert
Dear ANIMA WG This message starts the two-week ANIMA Working Group Last Call to advance draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-04, "Constrained Join Proxy for Bootstrapping Protocols". The WGLC ends after September 20th, or when all comments received are discussed. This document had a prior