Re: [Anima] autonomic framework

2017-03-27 Thread Michael H. Behringer
Join proxy is ok with me. I find the "Join Registrar" a bit weird, to me "Registrar" itself is pretty clear in its purpose. But, never mind, main thing is we use the same terms everywhere. I donĀ“t really like the term "router" for the proxy. To me

Re: [Anima] key management for MACsec

2017-03-27 Thread Hesham ElBakoury
802.1X uses device certificates for mutual authentication. I am not sure how wide spread the use of PSK is, but I suspect it is fairly large given the ease of set-up, implementation and test. For sure it is the most common use in WiFi. Hesham -Original Message- From: Michael Richards

Re: [Anima] key management for MACsec

2017-03-27 Thread Michael Richardson
Hesham ElBakoury wrote: > 802.1AE (MACsec) key management is specified in 802.1X-rev2 (2010). yes, I've come to understand that it's there. mcr> but, I see that it's really an amendment to 802.1X, which I am fetching mcr> now. a) does it support stock PKIX certs for identities? b)

[Anima] Proposed GRASP update text for Unicode issue

2017-03-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Hi, To follow up the Unicode issue mentioned today, I propose to add the following paragraph to the section "3.10.3. General Considerations for Objective Options" in draft-ietf-anima-grasp. Any comments from the WG? It would be nice to publish this while we are in Chicago: Names are expressed as

Re: [Anima] autonomic framework

2017-03-27 Thread peter van der Stok
Join Router is wrong. It forwards messages not packets. Maybe its next name should be Join Middlebox, but I'm happy with Join Proxy. Yes it forwards the message, and IP-in-IP routes the packets. I prefer router because it makes it clear that the end to end transport is unbroken from pledge t

Re: [Anima] autonomic framework

2017-03-27 Thread Michael Richardson
Brian E Carpenter wrote: > So, are you going to stop changing the names now? Because each time you > change them, I have to update draft-carpenter-anima-ani-objectives but > more seriously my demo code too... "me"? I didn't know I was authoritative for WG consensus :-) > Join Rou

Re: [Anima] key management for MACsec

2017-03-27 Thread Hesham ElBakoury
Mike, 802.1AE (MACsec) key management is specified in 802.1X-rev2 (2010). Hesham -Original Message- From: Anima [mailto:anima-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:32 PM To: anima@ietf.org Subject: [Anima] key management for MACsec Reading 80

Re: [Anima] autonomic framework

2017-03-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
So, are you going to stop changing the names now? Because each time you change them, I have to update draft-carpenter-anima-ani-objectives but more seriously my demo code too... Join Router is wrong. It forwards messages not packets. Maybe its next name should be Join Middlebox, but I'm happy with

[Anima] autonomic framework

2017-03-27 Thread Michael Richardson
Michael, some comments driven by the slides: We changed the name from Join Assistant to Join Proxy, as a consistent name across netconf,anima and 6tisch. (Peter wants us to change it to Join Router, because it forwards packets... but...) -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv

[Anima] key management for MACsec

2017-03-27 Thread Michael Richardson
Reading 802.1AE-2006, I did not see any key management protocol for MACsec. I was thinking before that maybe we could write a MACsec key agreement mechanism in IKEv2. I am now informed of 802.1Xbx-2014: Amendment 1: MAC Security Key Agreement Protocol (MKA) Extensions but, I see that it's r

Re: [Anima] [nvo3] IETF98 NetSlices side meeting agenda and schedule (27/03 Mon @ 18:15) Location: Vevey 1/2

2017-03-27 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Kiran, would you kindly record the discussion through WebEx and share the recording? Regards, Greg On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Kiran.Makhijani wrote: > Hello, > We have been able to get webex link for the side meeting. Please see > attachment for details. > > Thanks > Kiran > > On 3/24

[Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-06.txt

2017-03-27 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach of the IETF. Title : An Autonomic Control Plane Authors : Michael H. Behringer