Re: [Anima] Clarification reg old reference in the BRSKI draft to IEEE 802_1AR-2009

2019-07-31 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 02:18:08PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Let's be clear in the BRSKI text that our standard makes this a MUST > *even if* it is not mandatory in the IEEE standard. Of course we can do > that (and not including the serial number seems very sloppy), but we > should be

Re: [Anima] Clarification reg old reference in the BRSKI draft to IEEE 802_1AR-2009

2019-07-31 Thread Toerless Eckert
hat. Crypto folks would likely have better suggestions ;-) Cheers Toerless > Regards, > Tsippy > > -Original Message- > From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 05:18 > To: Toerless Eckert ; Michael Richardson &

Re: [Anima] Clarification reg old reference in the BRSKI draft to IEEE 802_1AR-2009

2019-07-31 Thread Mendelson, Tsippy
ds, Tsippy -Original Message- From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 05:18 To: Toerless Eckert ; Michael Richardson Cc: Jayanna, Prabhu ; Mendelson, Tsippy ; anima@ietf.org; Ruan, Xiaoyu Subject: Re: [Anima] Clarification reg old

Re: [Anima] Clarification reg old reference in the BRSKI draft to IEEE 802_1AR-2009

2019-07-30 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Let's be clear in the BRSKI text that our standard makes this a MUST *even if* it is not mandatory in the IEEE standard. Of course we can do that (and not including the serial number seems very sloppy), but we should be explicit that our requirement is stronger than the IEEE. Maybe it means that

Re: [Anima] Clarification reg old reference in the BRSKI draft to IEEE 802_1AR-2009

2019-07-30 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 06:23:37PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Toerless Eckert wrote: > > From what i understand (and please correct me if you are coming from a > > different angle), you may be able to reduce cost in manufacturing of > > low-cost and/or constrained device by

Re: [Anima] Clarification reg old reference in the BRSKI draft to IEEE 802_1AR-2009

2019-07-30 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: > From what i understand (and please correct me if you are coming from a > different angle), you may be able to reduce cost in manufacturing of > low-cost and/or constrained device by not having to have IDevID I didn't get that all from the original poster. I

Re: [Anima] Clarification reg old reference in the BRSKI draft to IEEE 802_1AR-2009

2019-07-30 Thread Toerless Eckert
Ideally i would like to negotiate you into liking and accepting the text as it stands, and if then - if you are interested - to help write a small followup document amending the solution space to other pledge IDevID formats (e.g.: without these easy identifiers). The reason for me saying this is

Re: [Anima] Clarification reg old reference in the BRSKI draft to IEEE 802_1AR-2009

2019-07-30 Thread Mendelson, Tsippy
Hi, Sending again to wider ANIMA audience - as I received no response. Thanks, Tsippy From: Mendelson, Tsippy Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 11:18 To: tte+i...@cs.fau.de Cc: Ruan, Xiaoyu ; Jayanna, Prabhu ; Mendelson, Tsippy Subject: Clarification reg old reference in the BRSKI draft to IEEE