Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

2018-08-17 Thread Joel M. Halpern
Thank you Michael. Seems that we are good. Yours, Joel On 8/17/18 10:36 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: Joel Halpern wrote: > Does section 3.3.2 intend to mandate that devices have persistent > storage for the LDevID? Or is it trying to say that on power cycle it > stays in En

Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

2018-08-17 Thread Michael Richardson
Joel Halpern wrote: > Does section 3.3.2 intend to mandate that devices have persistent > storage for the LDevID? Or is it trying to say that on power cycle it > stays in Enrolled state if it retains its LDevID, but goes back to the > Factory default state if not? (Given that

Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

2018-08-11 Thread Joel Halpern Direct
Thanks Michael. That sounds like you are covering my concerns quite effectively. On the IDevID reference, all I think is needed is to change the IEEE reference to be normative instead of informative. (Or if Toerless' suggestion is effective in your view, change the text to say that IDevID is

Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

2018-08-10 Thread Brian E Carpenter
(CCs trimmed, since I doubt that i...@ietf.org cares to see the details...) Just on a couple of points: >>> chair hat on: >>> There can not be a draft covering this yet, because the current >>> ANIMA charter didn't allow us to do this. We've got individual drafts >>> lined up for this topic, we j

Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

2018-08-10 Thread Joel M. Halpern
At this point I think we understand each other's points, and I will wait for Michael to comment as pen-holder. Thank you for the prompt response and discussion. Yours, Joel PS: While I sympathize with your reaction to paying for standards from other SDOs, that is not what determines whether we

Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

2018-08-10 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:12:37AM -0400, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > > Imho, the reference model text is correct. Just like in the non-autonomic > > input (third bullet item), this vendor-redirect/cloud-registrar would > > lead to an automatically set up remote ACP peer thats enterred into the > > ad

Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

2018-08-10 Thread Joel M. Halpern
I await Michael's comments. A few in line responses (marked where I think I may have been misunderstood. I have trimmed the rest. As noted in the elided text, these are all concerned with clarity. Yours, Joel On 8/10/18 1:10 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote: On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 06:00:39P

Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

2018-08-09 Thread Toerless Eckert
Thanks a lot, Joel MichaelB has the editor pen, so just some quick thoughts as co-author/chair inline. On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 06:00:39PM -0700, Joel Halpern wrote: > Reviewer: Joel Halpern > Review result: Ready with Issues > > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area