[anti-abuse-wg] [db-wg] Fw: NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-24 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
Hi Lutz Good try but this script does not do it. Firstly, if you start with the allocation object it needs to be -rM in the first query. Then you are only looking for the "org:" attribute. The INET(6)NUM object may have an "abuse-c:" attribute in the object. It may have both in which case the

[anti-abuse-wg] Fw: NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-24 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
. cheersdenis co-chair DB-WG - Forwarded message - From: ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2020, 22:50:52 CESTSubject: [anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes Colleagues This is now a very old NWI that never

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-23 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
HI When Tobias and I first developed the "abuse-c:" mechanism we wanted to keep the design simple. But eventually we were overruled by the community who preferred ease of use over simple design. So we are where we are :)  cheersdenis co-chair DB-WG On Wednesday, 23 September 2020, 13:14:38

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-22 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
, Sep 22, 2020 at 1:51 PM ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg wrote: [...] > Over time, with large hierarchies, we could end up with very complex > arrangements with objects, attributes and values that have been overlooked > and forgotten about. Even though they may have been forgot

[anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-22 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
Colleagues This is now a very old NWI that never got out of the starting blocks. I am posting this to the AA-WG as I think the discussion is more relevant to this community given the impact of not properly managing this data. https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/2016-May/005234.html

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [db-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election

2020-04-16 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
I would like to second Brian's comments below. The DB-WG has no mandate to concern itself with issues concerning the RIPE NCC Exec Board. Any discussion would be inappropriate on this mailing list. cheersdenis co-chair DB-WG On Thursday, 16 April 2020, 10:34:54 CEST, Brian Nisbet via db-wg

[anti-abuse-wg] Validation of 'end user' "abuse-mailbox:" (2019-04)

2020-02-23 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
Colleagues The policy proposal 2019-04 makes lots of references to resource holders, RIPE NCC members, LIRs and End Users. Only once does it mention 'customers of resource holders'. I get the feeling that where it refers to 'End Uses' it means PI resource holders. The argument for allowing the

[anti-abuse-wg] Fw: working in new version of 2019-04 (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2020-01-17 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
cy violation if happens all the time with the same operator). Never mind we decide or not that not-responding is an abuse-c violation. Stats are good, even if not published with operator names.   El 17/1/20 1:12, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg" escribió:   Hi

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] working in new version of 2019-04 (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2020-01-16 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
Hi Sergio As I read through this thread similar ideas came to my mind. The question I would ask is "Is it too late to take a completely different approach to abuse contacts and reporting via the RIPE Database?" Suppose we had a standard form available via the ripe.net website for providing

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] @EXT: RE: working in new version of 2019-04 (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2020-01-16 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
Colleagues I have just read this whole thread, it took a while (I should get sick more often and spend a day in bed reading emails). I have a few points to make. Some are similar to points already raised but I will reinforce them. I cut out the bits I want to respond to, but sorry I have not