Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Randy Bush
> sorry, we have no policy to kick off dirty spammer from elections. I > think it is time to do that. Let's do. i doubt this is necessary randy

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Peter Koch
On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 05:03:37PM +0300, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > > sorry, we have no policy to kick off dirty spammer from elections. > > > > I doubt that. Clearly, a person cannot qualify as a candidate right after > a massive RIPE database ToU violation. has anyone thought of just giving

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Thu, May 7, 2020, 4:40 PM Max Tulyev wrote: > sorry, we have no policy to kick off dirty spammer from elections. > I doubt that. Clearly, a person cannot qualify as a candidate right after a massive RIPE database ToU violation. -- Töma >

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Brian Nisbet
Max, The NCC Exec Board elections are governed by the NCC Articles of Association etc. It is through that vehicle that any changes would be made. The PDP is not a suitable vehicle for that. Certainly I think I can say with some certainty that it would not be something suitable for this WG, nor

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 04:47:34PM +0300, Max Tulyev wrote: > sorry, we have no policy to kick off dirty spammer from elections. I > think it is time to do that. Let's do. > > Who can write a PDP document for this? That's outside the PDP - it's a membership issue, so the relevant bits are

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Max Tulyev
Hi, sorry, we have no policy to kick off dirty spammer from elections. I think it is time to do that. Let's do. Who can write a PDP document for this? 07.05.20 12:03, Töma Gavrichenkov пише: Peace, Okay, should I be the first to step in and say that spamming all the LIR accounts with one's

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Alexander Talos-Zens
Hej, Den 2020-05-07 kl. 12:52, skrev Töma Gavrichenkov: > and thus one candidate has just obtained unfair advantage, > for which there should be consequences). I doubt this actually qualifies as *advantage*. I'm optimistic that the consequences will come with the election results. I'm afraid

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Brian Nisbet
Ah, let me be very clear here... I was explicitly *not* saying that we shouldn't discuss such things on this list, with due care and attention. Apologies if it came across that way. I need to flag which hat I'm wearing better! I was saying "thankfully, we have a process for this". In the early

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:51 PM Brian Nisbet wrote: > Should anyone believe they have been spammed by > someone who they believe has harvested contact > details from the DB, then they should contact > ab...@ripe.net to report it. No. I mean, yes, but I also think it is necessary to

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Brian Nisbet
As Nick points out, the clearest violation, if there is one, would be the terms of service of the RIPE DB. There may be others, that would be somewhat up to your local laws and how you would like to pursue things. Should anyone believe they have been spammed by someone who they believe has

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 11:18:09AM +0200, Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg wrote: > > What does GDPR have to say about this? > > Unfortunately GDPR is totally ok with mind-boggingly stupid "technical > solutions" as long as they don't contain PII ;-) > > Sorry, I'll stop now GDPR is not ok

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Nick Hilliard
Töma Gavrichenkov wrote on 07/05/2020 10:03: What does GDPR have to say about this? You mean the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations / PECR. Spamming is prohibited under article 13. National transcriptions of this legislation have implemented this as a civil offence in some EU

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg
Hi Töma > What does GDPR have to say about this? Unfortunately GDPR is totally ok with mind-boggingly stupid "technical solutions" as long as they don't contain PII ;-) Sorry, I'll stop now Cheers Serge -- Dr. Serge Droz Chair of the FIRST Board of Directors https://www.first.org

[anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-07 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, Okay, should I be the first to step in and say that spamming all the LIR accounts with one's mind-boggingly stupid "technical solutions" that have no, 0, zero chances to be implemented on the Internet is completely irresponsible and grossly unacceptable behaviour? What does GDPR have to