Re: [anti-abuse-wg] abuse of the internet by multinationals and nation states

2018-05-05 Thread John Levine
In article <60cf421.bf1cb7eb.16330114...@gmx.ch> you write: >I don't want to defend whois hiding but you forget to mention that this does >not only help criminals to hide but also >protects (a bit at least) the privacy of the wast majority of "uncriminal" >normal users. To point out the

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] abuse of the internet by multinationals and nation states

2018-05-05 Thread Tobi
I don't want to defend whois hiding but you forget to mention that this does not only help criminals to hide but also protects (a bit at least) the privacy of the wast majority of "uncriminal" normal users. So the question is to "forbid" something just because it can also be abused by criminal

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] abuse of the internet by multinationals and nation states

2018-05-05 Thread Tobi
Okay my "vast" majority was a bit misleading. I meant the majority of users/companies already in whois :-) So just the natural persons remain. But why should their right on their private data not count? Again do not want to defend whois hiding. But is still an important question which right

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] abuse of the internet by multinationals and nation states

2018-05-05 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <60cf421.bf1cb7eb.16330114...@gmx.ch>, Tobi wrote: >I don't want to defend whois hiding but you forget to mention that this does >not only help criminals to hide but also protects (a bit at least) the >privacy of the wast majority of "uncriminal" normal users. So

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] NOW: Domain name Whois protection WAS: abuse of the internet by multinationals and nation states

2018-05-05 Thread ox
On Sat, 05 May 2018 12:53:53 -0700 "Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote: > I don't like to participate in this mailing list anymore, because it > is largely if not entirely a waste of time. But I can't help > responding to the above. > you are quite correct. there is sometimes

[anti-abuse-wg] abuse of the internet by multinationals and nation states

2018-05-05 Thread ox
Hello, please may I have your thoughts, on or off list, about the evident growth in the use of the internet for abusive purposes as it relates to huge multinationals and nation states? I would like to illustrate what I am asking, with a singular example. the specific brand name should not choose

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] abuse of the internet by multinationals and nation states

2018-05-05 Thread Jeffrey Race
On Sat, 5 May 2018 13:30:29 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Tobi wrote: >Why should I as user not have the right to protect/hide MY personal data in >whois? Because you are using a public resource. Traceability and accountability are essential to the functioning of the public resource