Re: [AOLSERVER] apology

2008-04-25 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday 21 April 2008, Rusty Brooks wrote:
 Plus I think there's basically no one else.

 I'd say 90% of the AOLServer expertise in the world is contained in this
 list.  That might be a conservative estimate.

This list plus the OpenACS community plus the naviserver fork's lists likely 
contain 100% of the AOLserver expertise.

This is also the busiest this list has been in a long time.  While I no longer 
run OpenACS in production, I do still have several AOLserver installs going 
strong.  Some of them are AOLserver 2.3.  Yes, AOLserver is just that stable; 
those servers have been running over ten years and are still getting active 
(internal) use.
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Re: [AOLSERVER] apology

2008-04-21 Thread Fenton, Brian
Xavier,

I have enjoyed your posts and would be sorry to see you going. The AOLServer 
community already has enough problems without scaring off new developers, so I 
would ask you to reconsider your decision and continue to post your questions 
and ideas. I am sure what happened was a once-off incident.

Warm regards
Brian Fenton


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Subject: [AOLSERVER] apology

I would like to apologise publicly to anybody who found my posts rude,
dishonest or uncivil, I guess I have to learn more of your language.

Sorry all.

I suppose I won't be welcome here anymore, so thank you to everybody
who helped in the last few weeks, it was great. I have learned a lot
about programming, Tcl, Web servers, etc...
Hopefully, there are other aolserver lists or forum out there.

Again, sorry and thank you.
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Re: [AOLSERVER] apology

2008-04-21 Thread Juan José del Río (Simple Option)
Hello Xavier,

I think that leaving is the worst thing you can do at the moment. Stay
with us. After all, nobody is upset with you. Yes, nobody is upset.

And, well, after all those e-mails we can say that everyone knows you,
and what you can and can't do.

So I don't see any logical reason to leave. You better keep working with
AOLServer, until you can tame it to fulfill your needs. :-)

Kind Regards,

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On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 15:23 +0100, Xavier Bourguignon wrote:
 I would like to apologise publicly to anybody who found my posts rude,
 dishonest or uncivil, I guess I have to learn more of your language.
 
 Sorry all.
 
 I suppose I won't be welcome here anymore, so thank you to everybody
 who helped in the last few weeks, it was great. I have learned a lot
 about programming, Tcl, Web servers, etc...
 Hopefully, there are other aolserver lists or forum out there.
 
 Again, sorry and thank you.
 Bye
 


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Re: [AOLSERVER] apology

2008-04-21 Thread Don Baccus

On Apr 21, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Xavier Bourguignon wrote:



Sorry all.


Apology accepted, no problem.  Thank you.




I suppose I won't be welcome here anymore


Oh, c'mon, this is a fairly small list and I don't know of anyone here  
who won't accept an honest apology.  Now that we know you're new to  
programming, as well as our own small corner of the programming  
universe, I'm sure people will be happy to help you.


Though some of that help may come in the form of ... you should  
really read this .. etc.


Actually my first recommendation is to do what I did when I taught  
myself programming back in (oh lord) 1971 - read programs and figure  
out how they work, and ask questions if there's something you read  
that you don't understand.  And play and experiment, too.


If you're already doing this, please don't be offended my by  
recommending you do what you're already doing, though, OK?



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Re: [AOLSERVER] apology

2008-04-21 Thread Xavier Bourguignon
ok, I'll give it another shot I suppose.

I only started learning English about 18 months ago, I have a long way
to go yet, So after analysing what has happened, I guess some turn of
phrases I have used or others have used may have got lost in
translation on my side.

In terms of installing aolserver, I remember asking some questions on
the mailing list as I was completely lost, not only that, I had only
used Linux for 3 or 4 months by then, that didn't help not knowing
Unix systems.

But I try to get by with the little knowledge I have on this, after
all, it can't be that difficult, if one person can learn something,
anyone can as long as it is not rocket science.

So I have decided to stick with you guys. You are a great group of
people and I have learned a lot from you already, you are right that
it would be a mistake to stop now and look somewhere else.

Thank you

On 21/04/2008, Don Baccus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Apr 21, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Xavier Bourguignon wrote:


 
  Sorry all.
 

  Apology accepted, no problem.  Thank you.


 
 
  I suppose I won't be welcome here anymore
 

  Oh, c'mon, this is a fairly small list and I don't know of anyone here who
 won't accept an honest apology.  Now that we know you're new to programming,
 as well as our own small corner of the programming universe, I'm sure people
 will be happy to help you.

  Though some of that help may come in the form of ... you should really
 read this .. etc.

  Actually my first recommendation is to do what I did when I taught myself
 programming back in (oh lord) 1971 - read programs and figure out how they
 work, and ask questions if there's something you read that you don't
 understand.  And play and experiment, too.

  If you're already doing this, please don't be offended my by recommending
 you do what you're already doing, though, OK?

  
  Don Baccus
  http://donb.photo.net
  http://birdnotes.net
  http://openacs.org



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Re: [AOLSERVER] apology

2008-04-21 Thread Rusty Brooks

So I have decided to stick with you guys. You are a great group of
people and I have learned a lot from you already, you are right that
it would be a mistake to stop now and look somewhere else.


Plus I think there's basically no one else.

I'd say 90% of the AOLServer expertise in the world is contained in this list.  That might be a conservative 
estimate.


Rusty


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