Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Bernard Chardonneau
Well, in France we recently had a presidential election and for many people, neither of the 2 candidates selected for the 2nd round was fully satisfactory. For the PMC election, I'm happy to see that Unhammer who informed people a lot when I started working on apertium about 10 years ago is a

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Tanmai Khanna
My point isn't just about appearances though it's also about what's the more democratic thing to do. To at least give a proper platform for the non PMC people to say something. Moreover, I'm really confused about all this talk of "bureaucracy". It's one vote, which was supposed to happen anyway.

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Jonathan Washington
I'm also happy with either approach. I support avoiding bureaucracy, but I get Tanmai's point about appearances. But then, being friendly and going forward unanimously and unbureaucratically is also an appearance :D -- Jonathan 27 apr 2022, Ç. tarixində 08:08 tarixində Juan Pablo yazdı: > >

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Juan Pablo
Same here! It'll be great to vote if there are more candidates taking a step forward. But if not, I vote for avoiding bureaucracy. Candidates can be proclaimed by unanimous consent. best, Juan Pablo El 27/04/2022 a las 12:57, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer escribió: As someone currently outside the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Tanmai Khanna
Yeah, but you're going to be elected to the PMC, you can't vote for no vote. Same as me, we shouldn't be deciding that we don't need a vote. Violates many principles :p On Wed, Apr 27, 2022, 16:28 Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: > Xavi Ivars čálii: > > > But also, voting for just to confirm (or

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Xavi Ivars čálii: > But also, voting for just to confirm (or also push back?) the only group of > people that volunteered seems a bit useless. > > Maybe if someone outside the PMC gave their opinion, voting would make more > sense. But so far, it's been only the ones in the PMC (+ Sushain +

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Tanmai Khanna
The vote will be to confirm if this decision is fine. The same as votes for an election (anyone in the census can vote). If there are significant no votes, or really any no votes we can have a discussion about the next step. If the voting is unanimous then we have a mandate from the assembly of

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Xavi Ivars
I'm OK with both approaches. If we want people voting, that's fine for me. But also, voting for just to confirm (or also push back?) the only group of people that volunteered seems a bit useless. Maybe if someone outside the PMC gave their opinion, voting would make more sense. But so far, it's

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Tanmai Khanna
If the rest of the PMC is okay with it, I guess that's what we'll do. I still propose a vote so that we can have it on the record that the assembly of committers is okay with this decision. I get that by not replying there's an assumed consent but it really seems iffy when there's an election

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Bypass election?

2022-04-27 Thread Tino Didriksen
There is precedence even in legislative bodies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unanimous_consent We've given ample time and updates, and we have a possible outcome that can be achieved by unanimous consent. I say we take it and get on with the business of forming the Foundation, which the (new)