Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch - what are the mechanisms of re-infection?

2009-06-23 Thread Vincent Philion
Hello, as you know, there is a lot more information on bloom infection than anything else. So I don't think anyone has all the answers to your questions. Further, many possibilities can coexist with varying degrees of importance. In other words: it is VERY possible to inoculate a tree with

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-22 Thread Vincent Philion
]On Behalf Of Allen Teach - Sunrise Orchard Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:01 PM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch Gentlemen: I certainly agree with Mark to get rid of the culprit tree yesterday. However, let me relay an experience we had last year. On a five

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-22 Thread Axel Kratel
To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:20:12 PM Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch Hi! we tried to restart trees by leaving a few nodes above the graft, but failed miserably. The darn trees never re-sprouted. We had much better success pruning

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-22 Thread Vincent Philion
. From: Vincent Philion vincent.phil...@irda.qc.ca To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:20:12 PM Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch Hi! we tried to restart trees by leaving a few nodes above the graft, but failed miserably. The darn trees never

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-18 Thread Bill Shoemaker
The question is, what happens to the bacteria when it gets warmer? Does it just go dormant in the tree? My understanding is that moisture availability drives secondary cycles of the population. Warmer weather won't help unless it leads to drier weather. When dry weather begins to prevail,

RE: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Longstroth
Axel, If I had a 4 year old tree in an orchard of 200 trees with fireblight that bad, I would yank it out of the ground today! In my experience, 4 year old trees with that bad an infection don't survive. It sounds like the bacteria is running faster than you can cut and in my experience it will

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-18 Thread Axel Kratel
it: 1) Fireblight is systemic in the tree 2) Fireblight was brought to the tree from an outside vector. Thanks. From: Mark Longstroth longs...@msu.edu To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:36:12 AM Subject: RE: Apple-Crop

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-18 Thread Allen Teach - Sunrise Orchard
To: Apple-Crop Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch Mark, that sounds like good advice. Basically, I cut once, that didn't help. I cut again. if it comes back again I will yank out the tree. I do have a question for the group

RE: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Longstroth
- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net]on Behalf Of Axel Kratel Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:19 PM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch Mark, that sounds like good advice. Basically, I cut once, that didn't help. I

RE: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Longstroth
[mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net]on Behalf Of Allen Teach - Sunrise Orchard Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:01 PM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch Gentlemen: I certainly agree with Mark to get rid of the culprit tree yesterday. However, let me relay

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-17 Thread Dave Meyer
Fireblight - have you tried Fertilome's Streptomycin? From: Axel Kratel Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:18 AM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch Dear all, I have an Ernst Bosch apple tree on MM111 that has developed a pretty bad case of fireblight. I

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-17 Thread Bill Shoemaker
Axel You're in a tough place Alex. Bacterial diseases are generally tough, and in woody plants like apples, incredibly persistent. If you're cutting out infected material, I hope you're cutting back at least 6 from the infection. Any pest control material you use right now may be futile until

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch

2009-06-17 Thread Axel Kratel
warmer? Does it just go dormant in the tree? From: Bill Shoemaker wshoe...@illinois.edu To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 5:39:41 PM Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight on Ernst Bosch Axel You're in a tough place Alex