Apple-Crop: Ethryl
Hello all, I hope that I have not been kicked off apple crop for bad behaviour. I have not seen any posts in a little while. In the past few weeks I have been analysing results of farm-scale trials on the use of post-blossom ethryl to cause thinning in apples. The results seem to be very variable, depending on variety, with Alkmene and Bramley's practically unaffected, and Katja, Jonagored and Elstar dropping a lot of apples, but with little positive effect on fruit size. As this is my first year trying this chemical, I would be interested in any observations. Con Traas Cahir Ireland PS. Congratulations to the US readers on your new President. Do you expect any effects on pomology?
Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl
Haven't seen any talk on a bail out for apple growers, however they are about to pass the biggest pork filled bail out bill ever. It would be nice to spray a little ethryl on the bill to thin it down! On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Con.Traas wrote: Hello all, I hope that I have not been kicked off apple crop for bad behaviour. I have not seen any posts in a little while. In the past few weeks I have been analysing results of farm-scale trials on the use of post-blossom ethryl to cause thinning in apples. The results seem to be very variable, depending on variety, with Alkmene and Bramley’s practically unaffected, and Katja, Jonagored and Elstar dropping a lot of apples, but with little positive effect on fruit size. As this is my first year trying this chemical, I would be interested in any observations. Con Traas Cahir Ireland PS. Congratulations to the US readers on your new President. Do you expect any effects on pomology?
Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl
Here in Oxford County (Maine) we had 25 below last week. Of course it's a matter of local pride to report the lowest, or highest temp on a particular day. I have about 10 peaches I grafted from a chance seedling that has good features. Not sure how they like these temps. On another topic, the federal law governing organic foods was recently amended by lobbyists hired by some manufacturers. This will allow synthetic ingredients to be added to organic-labeled foods. If this is important to you, please visit my website, www.RestoreOrganicLaw..org --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Jill Kelly kelly...@metrocast.net wrote: From: Jill Kelly kelly...@metrocast.net Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 2:09 PM Everyone seems to have a what's in it for me attitude but not much of what can I/we do. Too much of the economy running through the government makes me nervous. We have a market economy which may be easier to muck-up than fix-up. If markets are allowed to work(with adequate regulation) our economy and society will be stronger. Competion (with adequate regulation) makes us stronger. Anyone want to buy some Mac's? It is snowing today in Maine and after this storm we should have about 3 feet on the ground. Last week we had -18 and -23 and I was wondering about my peaches. Thank goodness that's only -7 and -10 F. Too close for comfort. Art Kelly - Original Message - From: Matt McCallum To: Apple-Crop Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl Haven't seen any talk on a bail out for apple growers, however they are about to pass the biggest pork filled bail out bill ever. It would be nice to spray a little ethryl on the bill to thin it down! On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Con.Traas wrote: Hello all, I hope that I have not been kicked off apple crop for bad behaviour. I have not seen any posts in a little while. In the past few weeks I have been analysing results of farm-scale trials on the use of post-blossom ethryl to cause thinning in apples. The results seem to be very variable, depending on variety, with Alkmene and Bramley’s practically unaffected, and Katja, Jonagored and Elstar dropping a lot of apples, but with little positive effect on fruit size. As this is my first year trying this chemical, I would be interested in any observations. Con Traas Cahir Ireland PS. Congratulations to the US readers on your new President. Do you expect any effects on pomology? -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Apple-Crop: Stooling Beds
From: Lee elliott pippm...@yahoo.com Subject: Apple-Crop: Stooling beds To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Date:Wed, 1-28-09 How to start a stooling bed, can't find anything on Google
Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl
Interesting variation on spelling of the material. Here it is spelled Ethrel. To my understanding, its use here in Colorado is more to enhance return bloom (I think by enhancing thinning in conjunction w/ other thinners prior to flower initiation -- but I could easily be wrong on that). Harold L. -- Dr. Harold Larsen, Interim Manager - WCRC Res. Pathologist Ext. Fruit Dis. Specialist Colo. St. Univ., WCRC - Orchard Mesa 3168 B 1/2 Road Grand Junction, CO 81503-9621 Ph: (970) 434-3264, x-205 FAX: (970) 434-1035 EMail: harold.lar...@colostate.edu Con.Traas wrote: Hello all, I hope that I have not been kicked off apple crop for bad behaviour. I have not seen any posts in a little while. In the past few weeks I have been analysing results of farm-scale trials on the use of post-blossom ethryl to cause thinning in apples. The results seem to be very variable, depending on variety, with Alkmene and Bramley’s practically unaffected, and Katja, Jonagored and Elstar dropping a lot of apples, but with little positive effect on fruit size. As this is my first year trying this chemical, I would be interested in any observations. Con Traas Cahir Ireland PS. Congratulations to the US readers on your new President. Do you expect any effects on pomology? -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl
Although it is now 50 years back, I seem to recall that ethrel was used on McIntosh crops in NH around the first week of September, to cause premature reddening---but also premature drop if they were not picked very soon. Also, very poor shelf life. --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Harold J. Larsen harold.lar...@colostate.edu wrote: From: Harold J. Larsen harold.lar...@colostate.edu Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 7:10 PM Interesting variation on spelling of the material. Here it is spelled Ethrel. To my understanding, its use here in Colorado is more to enhance return bloom (I think by enhancing thinning in conjunction w/ other thinners prior to flower initiation -- but I could easily be wrong on that). Harold L. -- Dr. Harold Larsen, Interim Manager - WCRC Res. Pathologist Ext. Fruit Dis. Specialist Colo. St. Univ., WCRC - Orchard Mesa 3168 B 1/2 Road Grand Junction, CO 81503-9621 Ph: (970) 434-3264, x-205 FAX: (970) 434-1035 EMail: harold.lar...@colostate.edu Con.Traas wrote: Hello all, I hope that I have not been kicked off apple crop for bad behaviour. I have not seen any posts in a little while. In the past few weeks I have been analysing results of farm-scale trials on the use of post-blossom ethryl to cause thinning in apples. The results seem to be very variable, depending on variety, with Alkmene and Bramley’s practically unaffected, and Katja, Jonagored and Elstar dropping a lot of apples, but with little positive effect on fruit size. As this is my first year trying this chemical, I would be interested in any observations. Con Traas Cahir Ireland PS. Congratulations to the US readers on your new President. Do you expect any effects on pomology? -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl
I agree, the primary use of ethrel in New England has been to advance ripening. As a thinner it is considered only as a last resort. Some are using it to enhance return bloom on Honeycrisp. Art Kelly - Original Message - From: Arthur Harvey arthurhar...@yahoo.com To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:01 PM Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl Although it is now 50 years back, I seem to recall that ethrel was used on McIntosh crops in NH around the first week of September, to cause premature reddening---but also premature drop if they were not picked very soon. Also, very poor shelf life. --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Harold J. Larsen harold.lar...@colostate.edu wrote: From: Harold J. Larsen harold.lar...@colostate.edu Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 7:10 PM Interesting variation on spelling of the material. Here it is spelled Ethrel. To my understanding, its use here in Colorado is more to enhance return bloom (I think by enhancing thinning in conjunction w/ other thinners prior to flower initiation -- but I could easily be wrong on that). Harold L. -- Dr. Harold Larsen, Interim Manager - WCRC Res. Pathologist Ext. Fruit Dis. Specialist Colo. St. Univ., WCRC - Orchard Mesa 3168 B 1/2 Road Grand Junction, CO 81503-9621 Ph: (970) 434-3264, x-205 FAX: (970) 434-1035 EMail: harold.lar...@colostate.edu Con.Traas wrote: Hello all, I hope that I have not been kicked off apple crop for bad behaviour. I have not seen any posts in a little while. In the past few weeks I have been analysing results of farm-scale trials on the use of post-blossom ethryl to cause thinning in apples. The results seem to be very variable, depending on variety, with Alkmene and Bramley’s practically unaffected, and Katja, Jonagored and Elstar dropping a lot of apples, but with little positive effect on fruit size. As this is my first year trying this chemical, I would be interested in any observations. Con Traas Cahir Ireland PS. Congratulations to the US readers on your new President. Do you expect any effects on pomology? -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
