Re: [apple-crop] Paulared
Maybe with Ethrel, then you can pick them early too? http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.4141/P00-111 JC OLD: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net NEW: apple-c...@virtualorchard.com On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:34 PM, kellyorchards <kellyorcha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Has anyone ever overthinned Paulared? > > > > Art Kelly > Kelly Orchards > Acton, Maine > > ___ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] wind chill
I found this explanation on Wikipedia to be most informative: The effect of wind chill is to increase the rate of heat loss and reduce any warmer objects to the ambient temperature more quickly. Dry air cannot, however, reduce the temperature of these objects below the ambient temperature, no matter how great the wind velocity. For most biological organisms, the physiological response is to generate more heat in order to maintain a surface temperature in an acceptable range. The attempt to maintain a given surface temperature in an environment of faster heat loss results in both the perception of lower temperatures and an actual greater heat loss. In other words, the air 'feels' colder than it is because of the chilling effect of the wind on the skin. In extreme conditions this will increase the risk of adverse effects such asfrostbite <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frostbite>. On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Glen Koehler <glen.koeh...@maine.edu> wrote: > Hi Art > Plants respond to ambient temperature and unlike warm blooded animals do > not create their own. So wind chill does not affect them. Wind x > temperature could have an effect on moisture relations within the plant, > but I think that is not a major issue. At least that's my understanding of > the situation. I know growers who are convinced that wind chill affects > trees but that's not how I understand it. > - Glen > > Glen Koehler > University of Maine Cooperative Extension > Pest Management Office > Voice: Office 207-581-3882, Cell 207-485-0918 > 491 College Avenue, Orono, ME 04473 > > > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Arthur Kelly <kellyorcha...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Does anyone have a handle on how wind chill relates to fruit bud critical >> temps. We are expecting -11F tonight with a wind chill effect of around >> -30 F. >> >> -- >> Art Kelly >> Kelly Orchards >> Acton, ME >> >> ___ >> apple-crop mailing list >> apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >> >> > > ___ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] New Technology in Apple Scab and Fire Blight Management
Yes, and interestingly, RIMpro has plans to offer an "enhanced" weather forecast option (meteoblue.com) in 2016 vs. the base forecast (yr.no) included with RIMpro. The enhanced version will cost 50 euros (which is in addition to the base $200 euro RIMpro subscription). Users will also have the option for using meteoblue for historical as well as forecast data, alleviating the need for a hardware on-site weather station. My understanding all this is in the works, and should be available by early March on the RIMpro site, rimpro.eu. Jon On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 10:53 PM, David A. Rosenberger <da...@cornell.edu> wrote: > You can access a brief description of RIMpro in the blog commentary that I > posted at http://blogs.cornell.edu/plantpathhvl/blog/ on Jan 21. The > blog post provides a link to a PDF file that contains a 3-page description > of RIMpro along with my impressions of the program after evaluating it for > two seasons. > > RIMpro is a rather complex program that is not easily described in a short > document. If you are like me, you will have difficulty understanding how > useful it is until you actually use it for a year or two. It sounds > simplistic when you you just look at a few printouts, but I found that it > was really useful for estimating how critical the next predicted wetting > period might be as we move through the primary apple scab season. > > The RIMpro program has several weaknesses (in my opinion) which are > described in the PDF file noted above. The biggest problem is that RIMpro > predictions for ascospore releases are based on weather forecasts, and the > accuracy of the 4-day or even 2-day weather forecasts in my region in > spring has been dismal. RIMpro will provide you with an estimate of spore > release that is likely to occur with rains predicted over the next 4-5 > days, but that spore-release prediction will jump around as the rains > approach because the weather forecasts jump around, sometimes in the > extreme. I found RIMpro to be a very useful tool, but won’t be a really > great tool until weather forecasts become more accurate. > > It is possible that in some regions, forecasts are more accurate than in > the Hudson Valley. Over the past few years, we seem to frequently be at > the interface of storms that come up the coast, but then just miss us > because we are a bit too far north and storms that come across the Great > Lakes but then just miss us because we are a bit too far south. As a > result, over the past five years (roughly) we have gotten frequent > predictions for major rain storms and spore discharge events during the > prebloom period only to have the storms muss us completely. Growers apply > fungicides based on the forecasts, but then find that those sprays served > no purpose because it remains dry. RIMpro will not resolve that kind of > problem, but it will tell you what might happen if the forecasters get it > right. > > Dave Rosenberger, Plant Pathologist, > Hudson Valley Lab, P.O. Box 727, Highland, NY 12528 > Cell: 845-594-3060 > > > > On Feb 13, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Dennis Norton < > dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com> wrote: > > > > Jon, > > > > Being int he Midwest, I will not be able to attend the Summit. Where can > we get more information on the RIMpro Cloud Service other than the web > site, or should we set up an account to learn more? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Dennis Norton > > IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman > > Royal Oak Farm Orchard > > 15908 Hebron Rd. > > Harvard, IL 60033-9357 > > Office (815) 648-4467 > > Mobile (815) 228-2174 > > Fax (609) 228-2174 > > http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com > > http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com > > https://www.facebook.com/royaloakfarmorchard/ > > > > On 2/12/2016 11:07 AM, Jon Clements wrote: > >> RIMpro Cloud Service > > > > _______ > > apple-crop mailing list > > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > ___ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] New Technology in Apple Scab and Fire Blight Management
I realize it would be a long-haul for many of you, but I thought some might be interested in attending: http://www.redtomato.org/summit/ Let me know if any questions about the meeting or RIMpro Cloud Service. Hope to see some of you there. Jon -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] mobile (iOS or Androd) apps
Hi everyone, I have been recruited to give a talk on mobile apps ("Top 5
Apps or Uses of Tablets/iPads/iPhones" to be exact) at the IFTA Conference
in Grand Rapids next week. I have a few of my own: MyIPM, OpenScout
(formerly MyTaps), Agrian, Good Fruit, SoilWeb, among a few others. If
anyone uses an app they find particularly useful in day-to-day orchard
management, I would like to hear about it. If I use it in the talk, I will
credit you as the "Finder." Favorite Weather app? Pesticide/orchard record
keeping? Anything else?
Thanks.
Jon
--
Jon Clements
aka 'Mr Honeycrisp'
UMass Cold Spring Orchard
393 Sabin St.
Belchertown, MA 01007
413-478-7219
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Re: [apple-crop] apple size
Hi Bill, the Morren's Jonagored Supra on B.9 were grown at the UMass Cold Spring Orchard in Belchertown, MA in a super-spindle system. Unfortunately, we lost these trees to a freak October snowstorm (in 2011?) when the support system failed. I don't see their chilling requirements being any different than any other Jonagold, whatever that is? Here's a few picts from way back on what the trees and fruit looked like, and the trees demise, if you are interested. http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/morrensjonagold051205bloom.jpg http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/morrensjonagold092605trees.jpg (not exactly a heavy set) http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/morrensjonagold092605fruit.jpg http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/jonagolddownsnow.jpg http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/jonagolddown2011.jpg On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Shoemaker, William H <wshoe...@illinois.edu > wrote: > What region did you observe the Morren's Jonagored Supra on B9 Jon? Can > you say something about chilling requirement for that cultivar? I think > Jonagold is an excellent apple for fresh eating. If the New England Apple > Association wants to brand it, I think they are making a good choice. > > Bill > > *William H. Shoemaker * > > *Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist* > > *University of Illinois* > > wshoe...@illinois.edu > -- > *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [ > apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] on behalf of Jon Clements [ > jon.cleme...@umass.edu] > *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 4:56 PM > *To:* Apple-crop discussion list > *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] apple size > > Root pruning: YES > Withhold nitrogen: YES > Minimize dormant pruning, do some summer pruning (but don't remove fruit): > YES > Use Apogee: YES > Over-crop: YES maybe, but use NAA and/or Ethrel to promote return bloom > development > Use B.9 rootstock (as opposed to M.9): YES > Make sure you have enough variety to pollinate: YES > > I found Morren's Jonagored Supra (Willow Drive) grown on B.9 rootstock to > be a very nice Jonagold strain. Good crops without too many large fruit. > Still have to watch biennial bearing. I would plant that strain in a > heartbeat if I want Jonagold. > > Did you hear New England Apple Association is going to brand Jonagold > apples grown in New England? Not sure, however, what they are calling it? > > Any other ideas out there? > > Jon > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I've always wondered about root pruning with a deep running and large >> disk. Just a thought... >> >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:48 AM, David Kollas <kol...@frontier.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Art: >>> >>> I don’t know whence the observations or measurements >>> have come, but I saw a rootstock comparison >>> in which G202 was said to produce “smaller fruit size.” For >>> the reason you mention, I hope this is true, and of >>> more than just statistical significance. I suspect that if it >>> were a practical difference, we would have heard more >>> about it. >>> >>> David Kollas >>> Kollas Orchard, Connecticut >>> >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Arthur Kelly <kellyorcha...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Any suggestions out there for how to reduce fruit size without getting >>> into biennial bearing as in not thinning? Some varieties (Jonagold) would >>> be more marketable if they were 2.75 - 3.0" instead of all more than 3.0". >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Art Kelly >>> > Kelly Orchards >>> > Acton, ME >>> > ___ >>> > apple-crop mailing list >>> > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >>> > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__virtualorchard.net_mailman_listinfo_apple-2Dcrop=BQMFaQ=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ=1ejiT2NQyeKzdraKv8xrAbS0Mb4hB-tICIci2skuNv8=Hqq9Z6y5B9TNZ_9uOOp_yPhDCrjsh2nAbw-m9OO3M3s=V2zkAU1v4QS4CuU-kRUNoAnna22k1wBv9M-ekLVvzyE=> >>> >>> ___ >>> apple-crop mailing list >>> apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >>> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__virtualorchard.net_mailman_listinfo_apple-2Dcrop=BQMFaQ=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ=1ejiT2NQyeKzdraKv8xrAbS0Mb4hB-tICIci2skuNv8=Hqq9Z6y5B9TNZ_9u
Re: [apple-crop] Bill Fleming
Very sorry to hear, Bill was a big contributor to apple-crop, which we all appreciated. He will be missed, thanks for the note. Jon On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know how many of you guys know this, but Bill Fleming died last > October here in Corvallis, Montana. Bill was a super person, a good friend > and had a wealth of knowledge about apples, wheat and everything in > between. He was the farm manager at the Montana State University > experimental station in Corvallis. From what I understand, Bill had a blood > disease, had only a few days to live and took his own life. > > If I had a question about a hay bailer or the depth to plant winter wheat > or what was causing the funny shaped leaves on my apples I turned to Bill > and got the answer in an instant. His death is a big loss. > > ___ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] apple size
Root pruning: YES Withhold nitrogen: YES Minimize dormant pruning, do some summer pruning (but don't remove fruit): YES Use Apogee: YES Over-crop: YES maybe, but use NAA and/or Ethrel to promote return bloom development Use B.9 rootstock (as opposed to M.9): YES Make sure you have enough variety to pollinate: YES I found Morren's Jonagored Supra (Willow Drive) grown on B.9 rootstock to be a very nice Jonagold strain. Good crops without too many large fruit. Still have to watch biennial bearing. I would plant that strain in a heartbeat if I want Jonagold. Did you hear New England Apple Association is going to brand Jonagold apples grown in New England? Not sure, however, what they are calling it? Any other ideas out there? Jon On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've always wondered about root pruning with a deep running and large > disk. Just a thought... > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:48 AM, David Kollas <kol...@frontier.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Art: >> >> I don’t know whence the observations or measurements have >> come, but I saw a rootstock comparison >> in which G202 was said to produce “smaller fruit size.” For the >> reason you mention, I hope this is true, and of >> more than just statistical significance. I suspect that if it >> were a practical difference, we would have heard more >> about it. >> >> David Kollas >> Kollas Orchard, Connecticut >> >> >> On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Arthur Kelly <kellyorcha...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Any suggestions out there for how to reduce fruit size without getting >> into biennial bearing as in not thinning? Some varieties (Jonagold) would >> be more marketable if they were 2.75 - 3.0" instead of all more than 3.0". >> > >> > -- >> > Art Kelly >> > Kelly Orchards >> > Acton, ME >> > ___ >> > apple-crop mailing list >> > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >> > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >> >> ___ >> apple-crop mailing list >> apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >> > > > ___ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] weather
I e-mailed the contact at getchill.net, asking him for references for the models if you ran the app on his site. His response below, good reading, particularly if you are not ready yet to settle for "42." :-) * Hi Jon, Here are some of the references I used to compute the chill accumulation for each model. Hope this is what you are looking for. I personally only use the below 45 model. There isn't a lot of information about ratings for fruit trees using the dynamic model. Utah models give wacky results in my warm winter climate (San Diego). A reference for Utah, Positive Utah, and Dynamic models. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3077742/ A guide to calculate chill portions using the dynamic model. http://ucanr.edu/sites/fruittree/How-to_Guides/Dynamic_Model_-_Chill_Accumulation/ Some fruit trees rated in chill portions using the dynamic model. http://fruitsandnuts.ucdavis.edu/Weather_Services/chilling_accumulation_models/CropChillReq/ Here is the correct link for Utah, Positive Utah, and Dynamic models. I accidentally pasted the wrong one above. http://agis.ucdavis.edu/publications/2009/Sensitivity%20of%20winter%20chill%20models%20for%20fruit%20and%20nut%20trees%20to%20climatic%20changes%20expected%20in%20California's%20Central%20Valley.pdf Thanks, Tom On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Kevin Hauser <ke...@kuffelcreek.com> wrote: > Jon, that was an articulate and correct explanation of the current thought > on chilling units. However, I should point out that it's full of holes > when it comes to apples, such as how "low chill" Anna and Dorset Golden > (Bahamas) grow just fine in zone 4 upstate New York, where they blossom in > April along with the other apples instead of in January like they do here. > Or why on our 100 chilling hours we're still able to grow "high chill" > super-hardy apples like Wealthy and Black Oxford, which incidentally > blossom about the same time they do up north, even though it may have been > 100 degrees here for weeks. I'd say day length may have something to do > with it, but even that doesn't answer all the questions. > > I just assure clients that "the tree knows what to do" and to plant > whatever apple variety they want, and to ignore the chilling hours. Wish I > could say the same for peaches (the disease-ridden bug-infested > squishy-fruited chilling hour monkeys). > > Merry Christmas all > > Kevin Hauser > Kuffel Creek Apple Nursery > Riverside, CA > Nakifuma, Uganda > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 14:57:53 -0500, Jon Clements <jon.cleme...@umass.edu> > wrote: > > It's not getting any better: > > > > http://jmcextman.blogspot.com/2015/12/dont-panic.html > > > > Comments/corrections from those more knowledgeable than myself on this > > subject are welcome. (No climate change deniers allowed though!) > > > > Have a Happy Holiday. > > > > Jon > > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Arthur Kelly <kellyorcha...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Should I be worried about this weather? Not that there's anything I > can > >> do about it. Mid-December and in the 50's in Maine! > >> > >> -- > >> Art Kelly > >> Kelly Orchards > >> Acton, ME > >> > >> ___ > >> apple-crop mailing list > >> apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > >> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > >> > >> > > -- > Kevin Hauser > -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Help Wanted: Perennial Fruit Manager-In-Training
*Perennial Fruit Manager-In-Training* Hutchins Farm, in Concord, Massachusetts, is looking for candidates for a newly created position to help manage our 10 acres of certified organic apples and one acre of certified organic blueberries. Following the retirement of John Bemis, who established our orchards and managed them for the past 40 years, we are seeking a motivated, inquisitive and reliable individual to step into a management role over the 2016 season with the assistance and guidance of the other managers at Hutchins Farm. *Responsibilities will include:* *Apples:* Management of the apple orchards comprises four major tasks during the 2016 season – pruning during the winter, mechanical application of organic spray materials during the spring and early summer, mowing in the summer and fall, and harvest of the crop. The Manager-in-Training will receive assistance for the labor-intensive tasks of pruning and harvest, but will be ultimately responsible for the efficient management of these jobs. *Blueberries:* Management of the blueberries follows a similar pattern – pruning in late winter, application of organic spray materials in the spring mainly to suppress winter moth, deployment of bird netting in the late spring, and mowing and perennial weed removal in the fall. Management of the harvest will be a collaborative effort between the Manager-In-Training and the other managers at Hutchins. *Developing a Management Plan:* The Manager-In-Training will be responsible for developing a management plan for the orchards and blueberries in collaboration with the other managers at Hutchins Farm. This will include a detailed orchard map, notes on spray applications, and other relevant information, and could also include a plan for the removal of undesirable varieties and the addition of new trees. *Combination with other roles at Hutchins Farm:* The time commitment of perennial fruit management is quite variable, requiring a lot of work in the early part of the season for pruning and spraying, and (hopefully) a lot of work late in the season for harvest. In the mid-season the Manager-In-Training could move into another role in vegetable crop production. This could mean that the Manager-In-Training would periodically join the field crew to assist with the routine tasks in row crop production, or could play a more specialized role, such as machinery operation, marketing, or greenhouse management. The details of this arrangement can be negotiated, and would depend on the interests of the candidate and the requirements of the vegetable operation. *Training:* The Manager-In-Training will be provided with guidance and instruction from the other managers at Hutchins Farm. However, the position will also require self-directed learning through a variety of resources, including reference literature on the farm, and conversations with other local producers. The Manager-In-Training will be responsible for synthesizing relevant information in order to develop efficient practices that will allow the orchards to be run both responsibly and profitably. The Manager-In-Training will be trained to operate our John Deere 5400N orchard tractor, blast sprayer, and mowers, and other tractor-drawn implements and to safely use a chainsaw for limbing and tree removal. *Qualifications:* The ideal candidate will have a strong interest in organic perennial fruit and vegetable production. The position will require a considerable amount of independent work and decision-making, so candidates must be reliable, responsible and have the ability to communicate well with the other managers at Hutchins Farm both to receive instruction and critiques, and to provide relevant information to the other managers about the perennial fruit operation. Preference will be given to candidates who have some background in organic agriculture and/or experience operating machinery. *Duration:* The Perennial Fruit Manager-in-Training position is seasonal, running from January 1, 2016 through November 15, 2016. Provided that the Manager-In-Training excels in their role, we would consider offering the Manager-In-Training a Manager position for the 2017 season onward with additional independence and compensation. *Compensation:* We are still trying to determine compensation for the Manager-In-Training position. However, it will be competitive and commensurate with experience. Compensation will also depend on what kind of supplementary responsibilities the applicant would like to assume in the vegetable production operation during the periodic lulls in perennial fruit management. All employees at Hutchins Farm are welcome to harvest vegetables and fruit for themselves throughout the season. Housing is not available. *To Apply:* Please send a resume, cover letter and contact information for two references to Brian Cramer at br...@hutchinsfarm.com -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown
[apple-crop] Help Wanted: Perennial Fruit Manager-In-Training
*Perennial Fruit Manager-In-Training* Hutchins Farm, in Concord, Massachusetts, is looking for candidates for a newly created position to help manage our 10 acres of certified organic apples and one acre of certified organic blueberries. Following the retirement of John Bemis, who established our orchards and managed them for the past 40 years, we are seeking a motivated, inquisitive and reliable individual to step into a management role over the 2016 season with the assistance and guidance of the other managers at Hutchins Farm. *Responsibilities will include:* *Apples:* Management of the apple orchards comprises four major tasks during the 2016 season – pruning during the winter, mechanical application of organic spray materials during the spring and early summer, mowing in the summer and fall, and harvest of the crop. The Manager-in-Training will receive assistance for the labor-intensive tasks of pruning and harvest, but will be ultimately responsible for the efficient management of these jobs. *Blueberries:* Management of the blueberries follows a similar pattern – pruning in late winter, application of organic spray materials in the spring mainly to suppress winter moth, deployment of bird netting in the late spring, and mowing and perennial weed removal in the fall. Management of the harvest will be a collaborative effort between the Manager-In-Training and the other managers at Hutchins. *Developing a Management Plan:* The Manager-In-Training will be responsible for developing a management plan for the orchards and blueberries in collaboration with the other managers at Hutchins Farm. This will include a detailed orchard map, notes on spray applications, and other relevant information, and could also include a plan for the removal of undesirable varieties and the addition of new trees. *Combination with other roles at Hutchins Farm:* The time commitment of perennial fruit management is quite variable, requiring a lot of work in the early part of the season for pruning and spraying, and (hopefully) a lot of work late in the season for harvest. In the mid-season the Manager-In-Training could move into another role in vegetable crop production. This could mean that the Manager-In-Training would periodically join the field crew to assist with the routine tasks in row crop production, or could play a more specialized role, such as machinery operation, marketing, or greenhouse management. The details of this arrangement can be negotiated, and would depend on the interests of the candidate and the requirements of the vegetable operation. *Training:* The Manager-In-Training will be provided with guidance and instruction from the other managers at Hutchins Farm. However, the position will also require self-directed learning through a variety of resources, including reference literature on the farm, and conversations with other local producers. The Manager-In-Training will be responsible for synthesizing relevant information in order to develop efficient practices that will allow the orchards to be run both responsibly and profitably. The Manager-In-Training will be trained to operate our John Deere 5400N orchard tractor, blast sprayer, and mowers, and other tractor-drawn implements and to safely use a chainsaw for limbing and tree removal. *Qualifications:* The ideal candidate will have a strong interest in organic perennial fruit and vegetable production. The position will require a considerable amount of independent work and decision-making, so candidates must be reliable, responsible and have the ability to communicate well with the other managers at Hutchins Farm both to receive instruction and critiques, and to provide relevant information to the other managers about the perennial fruit operation. Preference will be given to candidates who have some background in organic agriculture and/or experience operating machinery. *Duration:* The Perennial Fruit Manager-in-Training position is seasonal, running from January 1, 2016 through November 15, 2016. Provided that the Manager-In-Training excels in their role, we would consider offering the Manager-In-Training a Manager position for the 2017 season onward with additional independence and compensation. *Compensation:* We are still trying to determine compensation for the Manager-In-Training position. However, it will be competitive and commensurate with experience. Compensation will also depend on what kind of supplementary responsibilities the applicant would like to assume in the vegetable production operation during the periodic lulls in perennial fruit management. All employees at Hutchins Farm are welcome to harvest vegetables and fruit for themselves throughout the season. Housing is not available. *To Apply:* Please send a resume, cover letter and contact information for two references to Brian Cramer at br...@hutchinsfarm.com -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown
[apple-crop] management advice for hail damaged orchard?
Hi everyone, what would you suggest is good management advice for a 100% hail damage (per crop insurance) orchard. Minimal fungicide and insecticide every few weeks? What about taking the damaged fruit off? Recommended, or does it make a difference? If we should take it off, how? Thanks. Jon -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] crop prospects
Mostly heavy, snowball bloom here in Massachusetts after modest crop last year. Not sure I have ever seen such a heavy bloom across the board. Temps. in mid to upper 80's preceding and during bloom really moved things along, bee activity was modest to good. There was so much bloom all at once bee activity might have been diluted? Very dry -- does that affect the attractiveness of bloom to bees? Less nectar production? Cold front moved through and now windy and much cooler, scattered frost possible in cold pockets. We're expecting good set and the need to thin aggressively. Heat raised the fire blight danger level, however, little wetting during bloom except for some showers here and there and dew. Will see how that plays out, lots of strep applied after last year. Only one apple scab infection period since April 21 (green tip), clean orchards could have delayed any fungicide application since then until the next rain, but that one will be a doozy probably. Somebody send us a little rain. Every year is so different... Jon On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Arthur Kelly kellyorcha...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about the rest of you but if we get any kind of pollination weather the crop will be very heavy and difficult to thin. The potential bloom at this point is scary. We are at pink except for cracking some king flowers on Zestar, Paulared, Gingergold etc. -- Art Kelly Kelly Orchards Acton, ME ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight
list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Maurice Tougas Tougas Family Farm Northborough,MA 01532 508-450-0844 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing listapple-crop@virtualorchard.nethttp://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Brian Heatherington Beech Creek Farms and Orchards 2011 Georgia Highway 120 Tallapoosa, GA 30176770-714-8381 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com NO_GRAZING_SIGN_FOR_USE_WITH_KASUMIN_2l_IN_ORCHARDS (1).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Company Responsible For First GMO Apples Is Sold (for 41 million dollars!)
In case you did not see this: http://www.goodfruit.com/intrexon-to-acquire-okanagan-specialty-fruits-for-41-million/ http://www.growingproduce.com/fruits/apples-pears/company-responsible-for-first-gmo-apples-is-sold/ -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Fwd: [Shared Post] “Dirty Dozen” List Authors Say Conventionally Grown Produce Are “Best Foods”
“Dirty Dozen” List Authors Say Conventionally Grown Produce Are “Best Foods” http://www.growingproduce.com/vegetables/dirty-dozen-list-authors-say-conventionally-grown-produce-are-best-foods/ :-) -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples
At the risk of being my usual terse self: 1.) I would be a lot more worried about this http://www.the-open-mind.com/mit-estimates-half-of-all-children-autistic-in-10-years-due-to-monsanto-1/#fsWKjef2oeh3k4OW.01 (FWIW), and this http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/26/us/food-waste-is-becoming-serious-economic-and-environmental-issue-report-says.html?_r=1, and this, http://fruitgrowersnews.com/index.php/news/release/44207, and long URL's :-). 2.) Don't forget the apple-crop posts are archived here: http://www.mail-archive.com/apple-crop@virtualorchard.net/ I hope that does not give anyone pause to post, however, you might get a call from NPR. David Doud, your 'water carrying' may have only just begun... 3.) I do think spraying (synthetic, inorganic pesticides to be clear, see #1.) and ladders are the bane of this industry. I am convinced on the latter, could be swayed on the former. That being said, clearly eating apples is healthier than eating (GMO'd) Fritos®. 4.) I read somewhere that the only way the public is going to accept GMO's is if it has a demonstrable benefit to them. Makes sense. They don't give a hoot about any benefit to the farmer. (Well, at least the average public doesn't?) Don't Arctic® Apples fit this scenario? Of course, if we can engineer GMO's so their apples aren't sprayers with synthetic chemical pesticides (see #1.), wouldn't they like that and be of obvious benefit to them? (See #1. again, is there a pattern here?) 5.) How can you argue the fact that if you could offer your customers a better experience by giving them an apple (slice) that does not brown, why would you not endorse that? 6.) What ever happened to BST/BGH push-back and labeling? Ginda, I will let you look that one up. 7.) I do think the apple industry reaction to this is a bit NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard). I will have to admit, sometimes the NIMBY's are correct, sometimes they are off-base IMHO. Only the future will tell, and I am through trying to predict that. Good night. Jon On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:53 AM, David Doud david_d...@me.com wrote: Well, I have been to two social events since the GMO 'Arctic apples' have been in the news - and that is what people want to talk to me about - and pretty much only that... How are you all handling this? My personal opinions aside, I don't want to 'carry water' for these guys - they aren't going to let me grow them even if I wanted to and I don't feel inclined to spend my time and credibility providing them cover and fighting their marketing struggle for them - This is going to be a frequently reoccurring issue this season - I've got an event to go to this afternoon and I am dreading this aspect of it - David Doud grower, IN below 0*F, way behind on pruning ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] German cultivars?
You might want to see: http://www.grandpasorchard.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/trees.featured/index.htm This is Moser's homeowner fruit tree sales site... On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, David Doud david_d...@me.com wrote: We're looking for the apple cultivars'Realka', 'Regia', 'Reka', 'Releta', and 'Remura' - all bred at Dresden-Pillnitz Germany - I'm uncertain whether they exist in the US, but thought this would be the group to ask - I don't see them listed at Geneva - read about them (and others) here: http://www.inhort.pl/files/journal_pdf/journal_2004spec2/full2004-3Aspec.pdf if you're interested - Thanks - David Doud grower - IN ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] research on suckering?
Hugh, I figured you mean't Chateau. Chateau can only be applied pre-bud break (silver tip for apple) or by extension, presumably in the fall after harvest. Dave, Venue (Nichino) has a supplemental label specific for sucker management in pome and stone fruit. It works best when tank-mixed with another contact herbicide such as paraquat (Gramoxone) or glufosinate-ammonium (Rely). (Or glyphosate, but I know how much you love that stuff!) As always, avoid direct contact to the tree trunk, particularly young trees, with any contact herbicide to avoid long-term injury to the tree. Jon On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, By mistake I made the comment that Chaparral was effective against apple suckers, I should have said, Chateau is effective. Sorry about the mix-up... On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: David, My Chaparral label does mention apple. I don't have access to the label at the moment, but I will in a few days. This herbicide is also very effective in weed control in your strips. I now spray once with Chaparral and maybe once with roundup rather than 4-6 times with roundup. (per season) I'm sure if you contact Dow they will fill you in. I'll get a chance to read my label and get back to you in a few days. Also, consider Paraquat. This is a very effective material for sucker burn down. I think Paraquat is also labeled for apple. Hugh On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 12:05 PM, David A. Rosenberger da...@cornell.edu wrote: Hello, Hugh — I was interested in your comment about controlling apple root suckers with Chaparral herbicide because root suckers have become a major headache in some of our older research plots. However, when I checked the Chaparral label on the CDMS website, I can’t find any label that includes apples. Do you have a special state label for apples, or were you thinking of a different herbicide? The Chaparral labels that I found indicate that it is not registered at all in NY (no big surprise), but I’m still curious about products that might be used for chemical control of root suckers in other states. However, given all of the warnings on the Chaparral label about long-term residual effects, even in hay from treated fields, I’m wondering about long-term side effects on apples even if it were labeled. On Jan 1, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: Steven, This is off point, but as an aside, I have found suckers (Bud 9) to weaken when sprayed with the herbicide Chaparral. This is a pre emergent but is labeled for suckers on apple. The effect is a severe weakening of the sucker roots and they are very easy to pull a couple of weeks after the spray. This is only anecdotal evidence and my personal experience. On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Steven Bibula sbib...@maine.rr.com wrote: Is there any information on the long term value of pre-planting sucker reduction? On some apple (and peach) rootstocks that arrive from the nursery, I have seen what appear to be cream-colored, corm-like ‘nodes’ at various locations on the roots themselves as well as the lower portions of the central portion; these all pop off relatively freely when wiggled. I have also seen suckers up to a few inches long as well. Are these nodes the origination points of future sucker growth, or just suckers that are already on their way? Do suckering rootstocks simply sucker from almost anywhere along their buried material, from dormant sucker buds scattered all over? For sucker control over the life of the planting, is there any benefit to manually removing these nodes and growing suckers? Or would that only reduce the suckering for the spring of the planting year? I am planning to plant a lot of heavily-suckering Bud 9 and B.9/MM.111, and if long term benefits of removing these nodes are worth the one-time effort before planting, then I will do the work. The hardest suckers to control are the ones right up next to the trunk, and any permanent sucker reduction would be nice on these heavily suckering rootstocks. I hope someone has done the research and is willing to educate ignorant folk such as I. Grateful in advance, Steven Bibula ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass
Re: [apple-crop] 'Real' Apple Store
Dave, regarding your last comment, were you referring to Apple Computer products or Honeycrisp apples??? :-) On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, David Doud david_d...@me.com wrote: A delightful short article and a half-dozen pictures from London - ...London's Borough Market, one of the oldest markets in the U.K., is marking its 1,000th anniversary this year. (Yes, it's been around for a millennium.) As part of the celebrations, it treated shoppers to a delightful concept—creating a Real Apple Store for the weekend that was a clever copy of Apple's iconic retail establishments. Actual apples were displayed on lucite pedestals just like an iPhone or iPad would be, but instead of technical specs, the signs showed each apple's unique flavor notes and history. Take a look below at some more photos of this great little shop. It remains unclear whether the apples themselves were marked up to 500 percent of their actual value http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/apple-store-london-looks-just-regular-apple-store-except-it-sells-real-apples-161468 David Doud IN ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Honeycrisp A+
Lest anyone else think they have the market for crackpots fully covered, we have it at least partially covered here in Massachusetts: http://turtleboysports.com/2014/09/22/local-dad-flips-out-because-of-offensive-sign-at-northborough-apple-picking-farm-that-implies-that-dads-are-fun-people/ http://turtleboysports.com/2014/10/04/turtleboy-mrs-turtleboy-investigate-tougas-farm-for-hot-apple-picking-takes/ :-) -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] Thank you Mister Liberty!
Couldn't agree with you more Claude, that's why they call me 'Mr Liberty!' http://www.virtualorchard.net/mrliberty/default.html I will say, however, I have fruited 'Modi' for the first time this year. It is a Liberty X Gala cross from Italy, and clubbed over there, where it is being touted as Eco-Friendly and having a low-carbon footprint compared to other apple varieties. Interesting: http://www.modiapple.com/en-UK/. In North America, International New Varieties Network/CO Nursery has the production and marketing rights to Modi. It is a quite good apple based on my limited experience... Jon Jon On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Claude Jolicoeur cjolip...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday, I was picking my Liberty apples and had a good thought for Jon Clements, as I really think this is a great apple! This year is a light crop year for almost all my varieties, some setting nothing and others at 10 to 25% of a normal crop. Nevertheless, my Liberties managed to yield an almost normal crop. Great job. It is also a very easy tree to train and grow, easily manageable, that yields a high percentage of first grade apples even when in a no-spray orchard or yard. As of apple quality, when grown here in Quebec, it might not be the best, but I find it better than many others and certainly is among the 10 best that grow here in zone 4. It is also very good for cider making - again maybe not the best, and it needs to be blended to balance its acidity, but better than many others. And additionally, it makes very good ice cider! Some people say it produces too many small apples - true. You just have to make cider with them. Plus, small apples have more flavor. All in all, one of the greatest apples to grow here, either for a backyard owner, a small hobby orchardist, a cider maker, or someone who doesn't like or want to spray. So, again, thank you Mister Liberty for making this apple available to us! Claude Jolicoeur Author, The New Cider Maker's Handbook http://www.cjoliprsf.ca/ http://www.chelseagreen.com/bookstore/item/the_new_cider_makers_handbook/ ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] OBLR
Art, there is no threshold as far as I know. Pheromone traps are typically used to establish a biofix to time the best treatment. See: http://www.fruitadvisor.info/tfruit/clements/models/oblr.html According to AgRadar, you should be out spraying for this pest July 3 so you can relax on the 4th. But, your namesake tropical depression/storm/hurricane Arthur may have something to say about that too! http://pronewengland.org/AllModels/MEmodel/ME-Sanford-InsectDates.htm Jon On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Arthur Kelly kellyorcha...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a treatment threshold for pheromone trap captures for OBLR? We averaged 7.5/trap today. We trapped the first adults on 6/20, one per trap. -- Art Kelly Kelly Orchards Acton, ME ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals
I posted this a while back ( http://www.mail-archive.com/apple-crop%40virtualorchard.net/msg02437.html), but probably worth re-visiting. I found it very interesting. JC http://www.wired.com/2014/01/new-monsanto-vegetables/ On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Fleming, William w...@exchange.montana.eduwrote: The way to beat the GMO controversy, merited or not, is to use genetic mapping to find plants with desirable traits then cross them into the targeted crop with conventional breeding. I've talked with several anti GMO folks who have no problem with this method but you still can be sure it won't please everyone. Bill Fleming Montana State University Western Ag Research Center 580 Quast Lane Corvallis, MT 59828 -Original Message- From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Silsby, Ken Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:23 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals In January, I happened to attend a standing room only presentation on communicating about GMO crops at the Mid-Atlantic Convention in Hershey, PA. The speaker was from the Center of Science in the Public Interest. Their web site posts a 24 page bulletin on the subject at the link below. The bulletin provides a good review for those who are in position to discuss the issue with the public. Link to Straight Talk on Genetically Engineered Foods: http://cspinet.org/new/pdf/biotech-faq.pdf Thanks. Ken Silsby Eastern Technical Manager, Apples Mobile: 716.471.5383 | Fax: 716.204.8065 ksil...@agrofresh.com www.agrofresh.com -Original Message- From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Shoemaker, William H Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:04 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals I don't know the answer to this question. I'm curious about it too. I also wonder how much of that kind of work is in development. I doubt anyone knows as so much of it is done in the private sector. But I remember conducting trials of pumpkins in the '90s on some virus-resistant GMO pumpkins that derived their genetic material from a different species within the cucurbit genus. I believe it was a wild species that was incompatible for an intergeneric cross. We really need such resistance but it was withdrawn because of perceived market risk. Bill William H. Shoemaker Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist University of Illinois wshoe...@illinois.edu My question is this: does anyone know how many of the GMO crops/organisms that are currently approved for food crops actually involve genetic transfers among widely-separated species as compared to the number of GMOs that involve only modifications of genes within plants or the addition of virus coat proteins from viruses that are already commonly found in the plant species of interest? ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Monsanto Is Going Organic and How to Engineer a Better (Not Arctic) Apple
I just ran across both these (I'm a long-time Wired subscriber, it's in print too), thought you would be interested. Jon http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2014/01/new-monsanto-vegetables/ http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/10/08/230552146/sweet-tart-crunchy-how-to-engineer-a-better-apple -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] Late summer drop and fruit size
Bonjour Vincent! Désolé, mais peut-être que vous devriez vous en tenir à l'entomologie et de la pathologie et de laisser la recherche horticole très dur très important pour les vrais experts! :-) On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Vincent Philion vincent.phil...@irda.qc.ca wrote: Hello, sorry for the delay. Yes, correct. Crop load influenced fruit weight notwithstanding ReTain. Fruits left on tree at harvest were more numerous and larger when treated with Retain. Fruits were up to 56g larger (148g vs 92g) depending on the specifics of the ReTain application. What I also found interesting was that the average fruit pressure of retain treated fruit significantly dropped for fruit left on the trees. As if the fruit stuck to the tree with Retain, and continued to grow but got softer. The Brix index was also influenced by the number of fruits on the tree: lower Brix on trees with more fruit. Retain also increased sugar content. Not much else to report. I’m not usually into physiology. This was a “accidental” project for us! Vincent On 14janv., 2014, at 16:41, David Kollas kol...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Vincent: As I understand your most recent explanation, both the untreated and the ReTain-treated trees produced greater fruit size at harvest if they were borne on trees most heavily-set at start of experiment. And that the ReTain treated trees showed a greater size/initial number of fruit than did the untreated. If the difference in fruit size for treated versus untreated is small, I would not be much bothered by it. Can you tell us how much different they were? David Kollas On Jan 14, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Vincent Philion vincent.phil...@irda.qc.ca wrote: Hello! Thank you all for your input! I did not explain why I was looking at drop and fruit size: it was an experiment on the use of ReTain. In the end I’m not sure I can pinpoint the reason this increased fruit size on trees with more apples (notwithstanding ReTain), but your input underlined that a number of variables can be involved! I liked Duane’s idea. If you’re curious, the report will read: ReTain Treatments significantly increased harvested McIntosh yield as compared to the control (p0.0001). Average fruit size at harvest was proportional to the total number of fruits on the trees present at the start of the experiment (p=0.01) and fruits treated with ReTain were larger than in the control (p=0.02). The effect of ReTain on harvest was expected (drop prevention) but the effect on fruit size was undetectable if the model was not adjusted to the initial crop load (thus my question) So the next question is now: why are ReTain treated fruits bigger than untreated fruit at harvest? bye for now, Vincent On 14janv., 2014, at 10:06, Duane Greene dgre...@pssci.umass.edu wrote: ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock
Hugh, see this for a start: http://www.extension.org/pages/60856/apple-rootstock-info:-v1#.UnFOtJRga9U Several growers here in Massachusetts have planted Honeycrisp (and maybe some other varieties?) on V.1 in recent years. The trees have done very well, however, they are larger than B.9 and M.9. Planting 3-4 feet apart is running into some crowding issues. They have been precocious, but I would plant them 5-6 ft. apart using a vertical axis type training. Trees I believe have come from Cameron Nursery. Jon On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: In my search for a cold tolerant rootstock, I ran across Vineland 1. Any input on this rootstock from anyone? B9 Honeycrisp trees are hard to find so I'm considering V1. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness
I was being a bit flippant (as usual). But, I do have personal experience with two Honeycrisp/Bud9 plantings. The one you refer to, planted in 2006, yes, the Honeycrisp/Bud9 are not where they should be in terms of size and bushels/acre although I stopped collecting data some years ago. I am sure I over-cropped them in years 2-3. Let's say these trees were from Nursery A (see below), and initially they were some of the most beautiful red coloring Honeycrisp I have seen. More recently, the color seems to have diminished, even though the trees are certainly not over-fertilized or vigorous. They have also become rather biennial, probably a result of inconsistent crop load management on my part. (Crop load and apple scab management seem to be the two biggest apple production problems we face year-in/year-out in the East.) I should also mention McIntosh/Bud9 were also planted to compare to Honeycrisp; these have had no problem filling their space and out-yield Honeycrisp because of the larger canopy volume. (Bud 9 is a great rootstock for McIntosh!) Results of this mini-apple orchard systems trial were published in Fruit Notes: http://umassfruitnotes.com/v76n1/a4.pdf Another Honeycrisp/Bud9 planting was in 2002, planted to super-spindle, trees 2 ft. apart, Nursery B. These grew very well, no problem getting them up to 10 ft., good consistent cropping (probably more carefully hand-thinned), but, the fruit was consistently very green. It was hard to get good red color on it even when the trees were young. Unfortunately I lost this planting to the freak October 2011 snowstorm. I guess my point is I think there is a lot of difference in Honeycrisp budwood, both in terms of fruit color and tree vigor. And 2 ft. is a good spacing for Honeycrisp/Bud9 because it forces you to grow a leader and not branches. Keys to success with Honeycrisp/Bud9? Plant larger trees from the start from a good nursery; plant 2-3 feet apart, 10-12 feet between rows; plant on a better site; plant with the graft union closer to the ground (2-3 inches) than what you might do with EMLA9; install trickle irrigation and fertilize adequately in 1st and 2d leaf; don't crop in 1st and 2nd leaf; focus on growing the leader up ASAP (no big side branches); use Bud9 where winter hardiness and fireblight resistance are a concern, otherwise, consider using EMLA 9. I don't think Bud9 suckers as bad as some EMLA9 clones, and like Tim says, the leaves are pretty... :-) On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Steven Bibula sbib...@maine.rr.com wrote: Especially for Jon Clements, but others as well: ** ** Are your initial Honeycrisp/Bud 9 Tall Spindle trials, where you cropped starting in 2nd leaf, agreeing with Mike’s experience? Looking at these trials subsequently, what happened to production? I have a 1,000 tree Honeycrisp/Bud 9 Tall Spindle planting planned for 2015 and this discussion has taken a very interesting turn. ** ** I noticed this year that with my 2nd leaf Snowsweet Tall Spindle on Bud 9, the trees that were fully cropped hardly grew (but produced huge fruit); however, the trees that had no fruit (spotty pollination in southern Maine with nearly continuous rain during bloom) also grew very little. Not one Snowsweet is even close to the top wire, located ~8.5’. We did have four periods of drought-induced stress this year, and the Bud 9 varieties were clearly the most checked. I will have Uniram drip with fertigation for all trees starting in 2014, and I anticipate that this will help ameliorate.** ** ** ** Steven Bibula Plowshares Community Farm 236 Sebago Lake Road Gorham ME 04038 207.239.0442 www.plowsharesmaine.com ** ** *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Mike Fargione *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2013 9:42 AM *To:* jon.cleme...@umass.edu; Apple-crop discussion list *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness ** ** Some growers in NY’s Hudson Valley prefer to plant Honeycrisp on B9 because they feel these trees are less prone to biennial bearing and can be cropped more heavily each year compared with Honeycrisp on M9. Our experience is that planting Honeycrisp/B9 at higher density and not cropping in years 1 2 can produce a very productive orchard. Mike *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [ mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.netapple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Jon Clements *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:26 PM *To:* Apple-crop discussion list *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness Simple solution -- pre-order and plant them 2 ft. X 10 ft. Will make you, and the nursery, happy...:-) Jon ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness
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Re: [apple-crop] Bitter pit? Stink bug?
A little more info, I have been struggling for awhile now to attempt to identify similar symptoms. We do of course have brown and green stink bug here, and apparently increasing signs of BMSB activity. (But not necessarily in orchard.) I have been told that bitter pit is typically more superficial and shallow under the skin. On Honeycrisp, greenish sunken spots have fairly deep brownish flesh discoloration below the spots. I have some pictures of that too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmcextman/sets/72157636328915735/ The previously attached pictures of the yellow apple are a numbered selection, that I could have sworn was relatively clean just a few weeks ago and now I am seeing this show up. (Dave R., there was some hail here earlier (like June/July), but that damage was pretty easily identified earlier and that does not appear to be the cause of this.) I would presume that with some sort of microscope the best way to confirm stink bug or not would be to look for a puncture hole? Yes, no? I will slice some fruit later and send picts of that to the list. Thanks all for your feedback. Jon On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:53 AM, David A. Rosenberger da...@cornell.eduwrote: Hail injury from at storm in early to mid-season? What are the internal symptoms when cut perpendicularly through the lesions? On Oct 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Jon Clements jmcext...@gmail.com wrote: See attached... photo.JPG 413-478-7219___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ** Dave Rosenberger, Professor of Plant Pathology Cornell University's Hudson Valley Lab P.O. Box 727, Highland, NY 12528 Office: 845-691-7231 Fax:845-691-2719 Cell: 845-594-3060 http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/pp/faculty/rosenberger/ ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] (no subject)
http://www.eckersapplefarm.com/eckers-gourmet-caramel/ JC On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Evan B. Milburn ebmilb...@yahoo.comwrote: OKMaries is out of business. Clown gyison? is not out of business. Any one out there have a line on a GREAT caramel dip that is rich dark brown, and does not stick to the plastic bubble? At$ 4.95 I need the BEST!!! Evan Milburn www.milburnorchards.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] native pollinators
Interesting, I was just observing full bloom sweet cherry yesterday afternoon and made a mental note that native bee/pollinator activity seemed to be light. There are no honeybees brought into the orchard yet, we wait for apples. Normally, they (the native pollinators) are really swarming the sweet cherries because they are the only thing in bloom at the time. Today activity seemed lacking again. It's been very dry here, is there any possibility there is a lack of nectar? That might not explain David's observation in Indiana though? Seems to be a theme here, but maybe Mo is right -- just plain natural (i.e. chaotic) population swings? Anyway, who needs bees? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsl7sILSGoU On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:01 AM, David Doud david_d...@me.com wrote: Another casualty of last year's freak weather is the population of native pollinators - my asian pears entered full bloom over the last 48 hours - other years they are surrounded by a cloud of several species of solitary pollinators, this year that activity is roughly 10% of what I am accustomed to observing - The first apple bloom opened yesterday - 72 hours ago at tight cluster I considered the amount of bloom as 'full' but not particularly remarkable, now bloom has seemingly spontaneously generated to an amount that I cannot remember observing in the past - it's going to be spectacular, but has upped my anxiety about the potential 'big crop of little green apples' - hope thinners are effective David Doud grower IN ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] honey-the-americans-shrank-the-apple-trees
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/08/162305162/honey-the-americans-shrank-the-apple-trees -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com IFTA 2013 Boston, February 25-27, 2013 ifruitttree.org ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] apples on prairie home companion
Or Dave Bedford/U. of Minnesota? Until I listened longer… :-) After this, and this: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/09/11/gardening-with-gutner-apple-picking-tips/, seems to me if you went to the bank with a NPV spreadsheet and asked for a loan to plant a few (or more?) acres of retail tall-spindle Honeycrisp, they would write you a check (and then some?) on the spot! What am I missing as I slave away at my civil service job…??? :-) On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:11 PM, David Doud david_d...@me.com wrote: apples were a major subject in the 'news from lake wobegon' segment - makes me wonder if Garrison Keillor has visited Doug Shefelbine - you can access audio here - http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2012/09/15/ nice to have something positive to report - David Doud grower (frozen out this year) Indiana ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 IFTA Boston 2013, February 23-29, 2013, ifruittree.org ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Rotten to the Core: What pick-your-own apple orchards tell us about the American economy.
OK, it's been pretty quiet, so I might as well stir the pot. (Or at least entertain you.) But don't blame the messenger… :-) http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/recycled/2007/10/rotten_to_the_core.single.html -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog -- Damaging freeze hits the Midwest U.S.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2070 How's it looking out there? Jon -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Food Cartel Imports Shrink Another U.S. Crop’s Production: Apple Orchards
Something a little more serious to chew on after the last post: http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2005/2005_30-39/2005_30-39/2005-31/pdf/31-33_31_ecoapple.pdf -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] grow tubes for new apple trees?
I used them this year on bench grafts. Performed as expected for all the reasons you mention, and my gut feeling is they helped growth. I think they promote bud breakage in various places, so you have to watch new shoot growth from rootstock and/or below where you want the leader to develop and remove those. Make sure you follow directions: http://growtube.com/ Jon 2011/11/21 Balsillie dbals...@mnsi.net: Has anyone planted either sleeping eye trees with grow tubes? Grape growers in my neighbourhood use a clearish, blue wrap-tube (that looks like a kid’s Magic snow carpet) wrapped around the vine for the first year. Their new grapevines grow more quickly, and the high temperatures inside the tube prevent powdery mildew. Also they can safely spray herbicides. They say it gets upward of 40C inside the tubes. Any experience with these for apples? I’m tempted to plant in situ and see if these give them a head start. Just thinking about how to keep scab away, although it doesn’t like really hot temperatures either. Doug Doug and Leslie Balsillie 793E County Road 50, R. R. 1 Harrow, Ontario N0R 1G0 Home of The Fruit Wagon Quality Fruit and Flowers in Season www.thefruitwagon.com Search for Fruit Wagon on Facebook ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] 'cider house'
Hello all, does anyone know of any plans/floor layout for a small-scale cider 'room' or 'house?' Presumably for pressing relatively small amounts of fresh cider and selling retail. Thanks. Jon -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Lake Ontario Summer Fruit Tour
On behalf of Debbie Breth and the Lake Ontario Fruit Team. JC You are invited to the Lake Ontario Summer Fruit Tour Presented by Cornell Cooperative Extension, Cornell University, the New York State Agricultural Experiment Station Wednesday, August 3rd, 2011 A tour for commercial fruit producers and supporting businesses. Featuring super spindle, tall spindle and V-axe apple planting systems, equipment innovations for improving labor efficiency, sprayer technology, new pest management technology, weed management, and all about sweet cherries in Orleans and Niagara Counties, between Rochester and Niagara Falls, NY. Join 250 growers, Cornell faculty, and many supporting business representatives for the day. We will have some translation headsets for Hispanic key employees you may want to bring to the tour. Ask Kim to reserve one for you. Enjoy the Chicken BBQ, see how other growers produce fruit, network with sponsors and other growers. Bring a lawn chair, umbrella, floppy hat and suntan lotion! Please RSVP by July 27 to Kim Hazel at 585-798-4265 x 26 or k...@cornell.edu Thank You, Sponsors! New York Apple Association, Bayer Crop Science, BASF, CBC America, Crop Production Services, Dow Agrosciences, DuPont Crop Protection, Finger Lakes Trellis Supply, H.H. Dobbins, Macroplastics, NY Center for Ag Medicine and Health, Mott’s, Niagara Implement, Nichino America Thank you, Donors! Bentley Bros., Chemtura, Helena Chemical Company, Lake Ontario Fruit, Inc., Lakeview Vineyard Equipment Inc., Makhteshim-Agan (Mana), Niagara Fresh Fruit Co. - a division of Bucolo Cold Storage Inc., Suterra LLC., Syngenta Crop Protection, United Phosphorus, Inc., Valent USA, Wafler Nursery, Willow Drive Nursery -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] apple maggot
I would not use less than the label rate of 8 oz. per acre of Assail 30 SG. No consideration for TRV. And yes, if you have an extended AMF problem then re-application at a minimum of 10 days between sprays (depending on weather) is going to be necessary. Jon 2011/6/28 Arthur Kelly kellyorcha...@gmail.com: What is the experience to date with neo-nics(Assail, Calypso, etc) controlling Apple Maggot? We have been able to control Apple Maggot at 1/3-1/2 rates with the OPs on about a 14 day schedule with monitoring using red sticky balls. Will Assail at 1/3-1/2 rate control Apple Maggot? Will the schedule need to be tightened up to 7-10 days? What about TRV? Art Kelly Kelly Orchards Acton, ME ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] Pommier, Le Mur Fruiter
Bonjour, I see the publication is available in French at http://www.amazon.fr/Pommier-mur-fruitier-Collectif/dp/2879111838. What is the publication date? To what extent has le mur fruitier been adopted in French commercial production? Merci beaucoup! Jon 2011/4/1 Jourdain Jean-Marc jourd...@ctifl.fr: Hi Maurice To my knowledge there is no translation of the book. Since the concept was created in our orchards here in Lanxade Centre (near Bergerac South West of France), I shall be able to answer all questions. The first rows of this training system were planted in 1995 for better access to fruit, since we were hosting a robotic harvester program at that time. Then the robotic program fell down, too much cost, too poor yield, then we decided to go on with the orchard. Jean Marc Jourdain Ctifl Centre manager Jourdain(at)Ctifl.fr -- Forwarded message -- From: maurice tougas appleman.maur...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:24 AM Subject: Pommier, Le Mur Fruiter To: Andre Tougas tougasf...@gmail.com Croppers, Does anyone know of a translated version of Pommier, le Mur fruitier? I am intrigued by the concept of this system after having traveled to Belgium last week scouting visits for the IFTA study tour this summer. We saw example of orchards trated with this system, and will be visiting them in July. The above publication appears to be the best coverage of the system I've seen. Alas, mon papa is no longer with me to help me with this. Maurice Tougas -- Maurice Tougas Tougas Family Farm Northborough,MA 01532 508-450-0844 -- Maurice Tougas Tougas Family Farm Northborough,MA 01532 508-450-0844 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] Tree height v. row spacing
If you are growing hi-density apples, then tree height should be no greater than between-row width. Slightly less (0.9) is even better. Jon 2011/3/25 Arthur Kelly kellyorcha...@gmail.com: What do you all think about required row spacing for various tree heights? Should row width be 1.1, 1.3 or 1.5 X tree height? Art Kelly Kelly Orchards Acton, ME ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[Apple-crop] Judge orders mediation in SweeTango apple lawsuit
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/04/2632639/judge-orders-mediation-in-sweetango.html -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 ___ Apple-crop mailing list Apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Apple-Crop: Fwd: FW: Survey about Disease-resistant Apples
I thought some of you may be interested in filling out this survey. Jon -- Forwarded message -- From: Cheryl Long cl...@motherearthnews.com Date: Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:36 PM Subject: FW: Survey about Disease-resistant Apples To: cleme...@umext.umass.edu Cc: Shelley Stonebrook sstonebr...@motherearthnews.com Hello, We are trying to distribute the survey described below to as many apple experts as possible. Can you help? -Original Message- From: Apple-Crop [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:30 PM To: Cheryl Long Subject: Re: Survey about Disease-resistant Apples This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_=_NextPart_001_01CAF2BD.A394DB32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Apple Lovers, =20 Mother Earth News is working on an article about the best low-maintenance apple varieties for backyard gardeners, and we need your help. To start things off, we've chosen 23 varieties that are reported to be resistant to all four major apple diseases - rust, scab, fireblight and mildew. (Thanks to Ted Swensen of the Home Orchard Society for his help in choosing this list.) =20 Now, we are hoping you will share your expertise with our readers by completing our survey about these varieties. The results will be the basis of our article in the October/November issue of Mother Earth News, plus we will post the survey results, including all comments participants provide, on our website. =20 Click here to go to the survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/L3TY9N6 =20 =20 Thanks in advance for whatever help you can provide. Also, we would greatly appreciate you forwarding this email to other apple enthusiasts you think might be interested in contributing. =20 Regards, =20 Cheryl Long Editor in Chief Mother Earth News Your message could not be processed because you are not allowed to post messages to the Apple-Crop list. For more information, you can contact the list administrator at: jmcextman cleme...@umext.umass.edu -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Dodine and captane fungicides applied during bloom
This might be easier for you: http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/pdf/captanfruitnotes94.pdf JC On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Daniel Cooley dcoo...@microbio.umass.edu wrote: Cooley, D. R. and D. W. Greene. 1994. Do bloom applications of fungicides affect fruit set? Fruit Notes 59(4): 15-16. The 93-94 volumes of Fruit Notes are here: http://www.archive.org/details/fruitnotes9394univ DRC On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:07 AM, Jose Manuel Pereira Cardoso wrote: Hi greetings to all I don't know if every one is aware that dodine and captane fungicides applied during bloom period have some affects on pollen germination, and reduction in fruit set is observed. I ask someone who have verified this or a have knwlodge of a paper discusssings this subject. -- JMP CARDOSO -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchardhttp://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and JonClements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not representofficial opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility forthe content. -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: posts for organic orchard
I am intrigued by the option of using metal stakes (best angle?) for smaller plantings (several acres) and with very hi-density systems (tall-spindle or super spindle, 3 ft or 2 ft between trees respectively) on, for example, B.9 rootstock. But I have been told they will not hold up? I am thinking row lengths of several hundred feet, placing the stakes every 10 meters (30 feet) or so, 10 ft. tall stakes driven 2.5 feet into ground puts the top wire at 7.5 feet. Seems cost-effective, easy to run wires through holes, easy to drive (compared to wood) and should be OK for organic. Need to figure out the end-support I suppose. What am I missing? Jon On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Gary Mount gbmo...@alumni.princeton.edu wrote: I will be planting an orchard for organic production this year and am looking for a solution to obtaining posts. As far as I know, treated posts are not acceptable in the NOP (I would love to stand corrected on this one) and I don,t like metal posts very much. I saw some really nice concrete posts at Fruit Logistica last winter in Berlin, but don't know of any in the USA. Can anyone point me in the right direction? - Gary Mount Terhune Orchards 330 Cold Soil Rd Princeton, NJ 08540 609-924-2310 609-924-8569 fx 609-462-9672 cell -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Apple-Crop: Fwd: How to Post
I am forwarding this message from Jason to apple-crop. Jon -- Forwarded message -- From: Deveau, Jason (OMAFRA) jason.dev...@ontario.ca Date: Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:51 AM Subject: RE: How to Post To: Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu This is my first time posting on Apple-Crop. Methods for optimizing orchard applications are of particular interest to me and I’ve learned a great deal from this collection of experiences and opinions. I’ve tried to keep this brief, but there’s a lot to say on the subject. Ontario has been developing a new approach to optimizing orchard applications. The model draws from the best parts of existing Crop-Adapted Spraying methods published and practiced since the sixties. Crop-Adapted Spraying can be defined as “a process for matching carrier volume and product dosage to a growing leaf area within a canopy, or to variation between canopies, combined with the correct calibration and orientation of the sprayer.” The goal of our model is to remove variation in applications. If it saves water and product in the process, that’s a nice side-effect. Carrier Volume: Tree row volume is only one form of Crop-Adapted Spraying and it’s based on assumptions that need to be reconsidered. I agree with Dave Rosenberger that we have good reason for questioning the validity of any method proffered 30 years ago. Trees, planting parameters and chemistries have changed. It’s a sad irony that orchard application equipment (read airblast sprayers) is the only variable that has remained roughly the same. TRV is based on the carrier volume of 400 US Gallons / acre, which was pointed out in this discussion to be the volume of growth-regulating spray that will provide ideal coverage of a standard orchard using an airblast sprayer. Generally, TRV models compare the volume of today’s high density canopies to that of a standard orchard and make a proportional reduction in the volume of spray required to achieve dilute coverage for all orchard agrichemicals. There are a lot of inherent problems with making this conversion. I’ve seen a “standard” orchard defined many ways, spanning from 29,410 to 39,906 cubic metres per hectare (420,300 to 570,310 cubic feet per acre). The ideal volume of 400 US gallons / acre seems to be based largely on best practices of the day and has been handed down somewhat reflexively. Is it the correct starting point for determining the “right” carrier volume for today’s plantings? Canopy Density and PACE+: As was noted in this discussion, planting parameters and crop morphology is considerably different today from the standard planting. Can carrier volumes really be pro-rated as a percentage based on canopy volume given changes in crop density? I suggest growers consider a new method of Crop-Adapted Spraying currently in practice in the UK. Dr. Peter Walklate and the Silsoe Institute’s PACE+ scheme (Pesticide application rate adjustment to the crop environment) has made some impressive contributions. In my opinion, the most interesting find is that the density of an apple canopy accounts for about 80% of the variability in spray coverage when using a fixed rate across orchards. Most variants of the TRV formula do not account for density. http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/HDC.pdf http://www.cigrjournal.org/index.php/Ejounral/article/viewFile/1240/1097 Still, PACE+ makes no recommendation as to the ideal carrier volume required for an application. As many of you have pointed out, the purpose of the carrier is to convey the agrichemical product to the target and distribute it in the desired pattern. Generally, a high droplet density (i.e. the number of discrete droplets per unit target area) is conducive to an effective application. Therefore, given the importance of the carrier, it is surprising that a specific volume is seldom indicated on the label except in generalities such as maximum and minimum. Coverage Constant: The method we’re developing does not pro-rate that classic 400 UG gallons / acre. Instead, it works from the bottom-up by recommending the ideal volume of carrier required to give dilute coverage to one cubic metre of full apple foliage from an axial airblast sprayer. After an extensive literature review, I’ve determined the rate to be 0.08 litres per cubic metre (0.0006 US gallons per (cubic foot). With this coverage constant in hand, the model then determines the volume of canopy based on height, width and depth, the average tree shape and the density of the average tree. The ideal carrier volume should be no lower than 500 litres per hectare (53.5 US Gallons per acre) because there are physical limitations to what an air blasted droplet can achieve in terms of coverage. In a 1997 survey, apple canopies in New Zealand ranged from 10,000 to 40,000 m3/ha (142,913 to 571,653 cubic feet per acre) and increased by 30% between bud break and harvest. Therefore our new method proposes calibrating the sprayer and determining
Re: Apple-Crop: Mystery apple?
This has gotten interesting. I ate the apple yesterday -- rather dense in hand, but flesh rather fine and somewhat soft, certainly not crispy-crunchy, but not soft to bite (like McIntosh) either. Skin intermediate in thickness, not unpleasant. Complex-sweet flavor, but not 'fruity.' Is reminiscent of Fuji. Here are a couple higher-res pictures. http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/images/2009apples/c-smysteryapplecalyxend.jpg http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/images/2009apples/c-smysteryapplestemeend.jpg Is Keith going to send the 5 bucks to whoever gets it right? JC On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:15 PM, edwdol...@aol.com wrote: Keith: I grew up with Genet or Genetin but the picture does not fit with my memory. And unfortunately, my history of Fuji was tossed during some reduction in files so all I remember is that Ralls, Genet or Jenniten was listed as one of the parents in the Plant Introduction lists for Tohoku 7 which was named Fuji. Chris Doll, Illinois -Original Message- From: Yoder, Keith ksyo...@vt.edu To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2009 9:51 am Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: Mystery apple? Not 20 Ounce, Chris. (The heaviest one I have is only 13.7 oz ;-) Not Minkler, but that's one of the ones I'll need to look up because it must look something like __ . Keith Yoder From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of edwdol...@aol.com [edwdol...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:17 PM To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Mystery apple? Can I have two guesses? First is 20 Ounce Pippen or maybe a Minkler? Chris Doll--Illinois -Original Message- From: Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:55 pm Subject: Apple-Crop: Mystery apple? Mystery apple? Grown in northern Virginia, courtesy Keith Yoder, Virginia Tech. Just harvested. Likely an antique variety from the area. Note the short stem and rather pronounced lenticel spotting. http://yfrog.com/3lih8j P.S. He knows what it is and 5 bucks is riding on it. Jon -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edumailto:cleme...@umext.umass..edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.nethttp://www.virtualorchard.net/ and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.netmailto:webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Apple-Crop: The Search for the Perfect Apple
http://www.parade.com/export/sites/default/food/2009/08/30-search-for-the-perfect-apple.html -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Follow-up on organic study
I think one point we are all missing is the recent interest in healthful eating, which in turn has boosted organic sales. You just can't compare the produce department in terms of selection and quality of my local Stop Shop to the (not quite as local) closest Whole Foods. (Which is admittedly not all-organic, but sometimes I wonder if people know?) Of course you can't compare the price either, but I also buy and use Apple computers -- talk about a tax on the gullible! :-) And you really can't successfully argue that organic food is not better for the environment and your health, and personally I think tastes better, than the conventional produce you buy in a typical supermarket. You will never, ever win that argument. (At least I can't win it with my spouse.) That is the bottom line for the consumer. Perception is reality. Note I did not bring up the subject of 'locally grown' at all... JC Jon Clements Extension Educator UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413.478.7219 On Aug 11, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Daniel Cooley wrote: FYI - Lawson from the Times of London: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/dominic_lawson/article6788644.ece Goldacre from The Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/01/bad-science-organic-food Daniel R. Cooley Dept. of Plant, Soil Insect Sci. Fernald Hall 103 University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Office: 413-577-3803 Cell: 413-531-3383 dcoo...@microbio.umass.edu FAX 413-545-2115 http://people.umass.edu/dcooley/ Office location: 103 Clark Hall
Re: Apple-Crop: copper fungicides for organic apples?
Interesting that Champ WG has a 'Danger' signal word. Sounds real 'organic,' huh? :-) Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.6647 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp On May 13, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Glen Koehler wrote: Champ WG is on the OMRI list. Use instructions for anthracnose and European canker say Apply before fall rains., with no other restriction. I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but that seems to leave a wide window for interpreting applications made in summer as being within label allowance for timing. Label is at http://www.cdms.net/LDat/ld8NR000.pdf Glen Koehler University of Maine Cooperative Extension Pest Management Office 491 College Avenue, Orono, ME 04473 Tel: 207-581-3882 Email: gkoeh...@umext.maine.edu Web: http://pmo.umext.maine.edu/apple/ Fax: 207-581-3881 What we call the secret of happiness is no more a secret than our willingness to choose life. - Leo Buscaglia -Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Dave Rosenberger Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:30 PM To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Subject: Apple-Crop: copper fungicides for organic apples? Can anyone point me to a copper fungicide that is OMRI approved for organic farmers AND that also has a US EPA label that allows repeated applications to apples during summer. I know that I should be able to find this info on the OMRI web-site, but I found that site extremely confusing when I tried it a year or two ago. -- ** Dave Rosenberger Professor of Plant PathologyOffice: 845-691-7231 Cornell University's Hudson Valley Lab Fax:845-691-2719 P.O. Box 727, Highland, NY 12528Cell: 845-594-3060 http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/pp/faculty/rosenberger/ -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Apple-Crop: ten-organic-foods-worth-money
FYI, this was linked from cnn.com today. (Thanks to Tom Green of the IPM Institute for pointing it out.) http://bit.ly/3Enxpk “Apples A is for apple―and a lot of pesticides. According to the Food and Drug Administration, more pesticides (a whopping 36) are found on apples than on any other fruit or vegetable. In one test, as many as seven chemicals were detected on a single apple. No organic? Peel your apples. And look for apples from New Zealand (it's noted on the little produce stickers), which are treated with half as many pesticides as those grown Stateside.” Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.6647 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Early bearing
Virgina Spys? That is a new one on me. Northern Spy? Good luck, notoriously late bearing as you may already know. I don't think having them on M.9 even helps. (Although it can't hurt!) FYI, you can see the wire limb benders in action that Mo Tougas speaks of here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBC5oOo4oJw Jon Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.6647 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp On Mar 10, 2009, at 6:58 PM, jscr...@aol.com wrote: My experience is that in Virginia Spys are late producers. Scoring really works. There are more and less severe scoring, you might want to try several types on some limbs. The least severe is one cut around the trunk under the scaffold limps. The most severe would be to remove about 1/8 inch section. Some remove a larger section and replace it upside down. It is most important to cover any such wound to keep it from drying and from fire blight. I have used several layers of masking tape. It will come off by itself later. One or two weeks after bloom is when I have made the scoring. Good luck, you can really get their attention with scoring. John Crumlpacker Timberville, Virginia 540 896 6000 In a message dated 3/10/2009 4:00:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, schoo...@kwic.com writes: Would someone care to divulge a recipe for getting slow-to-bear varieties into production sooner. I have Northern Spy in mind using Ethrel or NAA or combinations. Apogee perhaps. Other techniques? Harold Schooley Orchards Limited Simcoe, Ontario Canada Need a job? Find employment help in your area. -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Ethryl
Con, you may be interested in these articles in Fruit Notes (http://www.umass.edu/fruitadvisor/fruitnotes/FruitNotes.htm ): http://www.umass.edu/fruitadvisor/fruitnotes/v71n3/a2.pdf http://www.umass.edu/fruitadvisor/fruitnotes/v71n2/a5.pdf http://www.umass.edu/fruitadvisor/fruitnotes/v70n2/fn702-a1.pdf I won't comment on our new President -- will leave it to your imagination, although currently living in Massachusetts, Sens. Edward Kennedy, John Kerry, etc. Hey, it could be worse, I am a born Vermonter, = Bernie Sanders. (To be fair, Vermont has a long tradition of Republicanism, although obviously independence too!) :-) Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.6647 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Con.Traas wrote: Hello all, I hope that I have not been kicked off apple crop for bad behaviour. I have not seen any posts in a little while. In the past few weeks I have been analysing results of farm-scale trials on the use of post-blossom ethryl to cause thinning in apples. The results seem to be very variable, depending on variety, with Alkmene and Bramley’s practically unaffected, and Katja, Jonagored and Elstar dropping a lot of apples, but with little positive effect on fruit size. As this is my first year trying this chemical, I would be interested in any observations. Con Traas Cahir Ireland PS. Congratulations to the US readers on your new President. Do you expect any effects on pomology? -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements webmas...@virtualorchard.net. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Apple-Crop: FYI-NY Apple Crop Damage
http://www.weather.com/multimedia/videoplayer.html?clip=11323from=hp_video_5 Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.6647 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Hail in the Great Lakes area
I heard a report today on an Albany, NY radio station that up to 1/3 of the NY apple crop may have been impacted (particularly western New York) and that they are actively seeking federal disaster assistance? (But that is the media, although it was public radio, :-)) I know at least two significant orchards in the upper Connecticut River valley of Massachusetts saw some hail damage from the same set of storms that crossed NY earlier this week, and one orchard in eastern Mass. had hail the day after. Could be along summer if the weather pattern holds... JC Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.6647 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Larry Lutz wrote: Greetings, Just saw a report on hail in the Great Lakes Area. Could any of our friends update us as to how bad it was ? Hopefully the orchards were spared Regards, Larry Lutz Nova Scotia -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Damage in Washington California
Hi Annette, you might want to see this if you have not already: http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/3415 Jon Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.6647 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp On Apr 24, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Annette and Randy Bjorge Fruit Acres Farms wrote: Hi Apple Croppers, There are rumors in Michigan about there being damage in Washington State and California. Does anybody know anything? Annette Bjorge Fruit Acres Farms Coloma, MI -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Spring 2008
Hi Con, it is always interesting to hear what you have to say across the 'puddle.' Hard to believe it is somewhat spring-like there already. Here in the northeast U.S. it has been a pretty snowy winter, particularly in the mountains of northern New England where the skiers are having a grand time. We have not had extreme cold, it has barely dropped below zero (-4.3 F.) in central Massachusetts. The days are noticeably longer and daylight savings time starts in just 3 weeks! I will be very curious to see how the season evolves, as we are coming off two years of very good apple crops, yet I am seeing a lot of fruit buds still. I believe most would agree that last season the weather was very good -- not too hot, not too cold, not too much or too little rain, etc. I think the apples liked it. The weather has been a little crazy in parts of the U.S., what with the rather odd tornado that struck Ken Hall's orchard in Illinois back in January, and then just under two weeks ago a major outbreak of tornadoes in the south that resulted in over 50 fatalities. Global warming (aka climate change) suggests we will experience more severe weather, but I am not sure how it can be documented if at all. (It will take time.) But I am sure as fruit growers, none of us wants to see an increase in extreme weather, my observation is that tree fruit likes nice 'normal' weather best. Lastly, you mention the availability of labor, and I am not the best one to comment on this other than the fact it has become a 'hot button' in our presidential campaign (what do you all think of that?) and no doubt it is huge issue facing most farmers. I am not sure we will ever agree on a solution, but I think I just read somewhere that close to 70% of the agricultural labor force is not 'legally' here, FWIW. Jon Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.6647 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp http://jmcextman.blogspot.com On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Con.Traas wrote: Hello all, We are experiencing a lovely warm spell for this time of the year, and St. Valentine’s Day. Although warm, the trees are not so advanced as they were a few years ago, when the first Victoriaplum trees started flowering at this time. So, at the moment it looks as though (assuming the weather does not remain warm for too long) we will have an early spring, but not one for the record books, which is a relief, as we have often had damaging frosts in early May, which is still a long way off. On our own farm we still have apples in store, and thanks to the Smartfresh treatment, they are really excellent. In fact, they seem to stay that fresh that I need to add far fewer high-acid apples to my juice to get a nice balance between sweetness and acidity. My only problem is to figure out what to do with the high acid apples. In general growers were happy with apple demand this year, but are very concerned about the rising costs of fertiliser (linked to oil prices it seems), and agrochemicals. However, labour is still the number one cost, and it looks likely to remain that way. At least in Ireland it is possible to get labour, whereas in the UK and Holland, it can be very difficult. I would be interested to hear what prospects are like in other parts of the World, and how the spring is shaping up. Right now I’ve got to go out and do a bit of work. Con Traas -- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Apple-Crop: One sexy apple
Honeycrisp apples are a hit around the world, thanks to the efforts of two Minnesota breeders and one very persistent grower. http://www.latimes.com/features/food/foodanddrink/sns-fdcook3- wk4,0,3673895.story Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.0382 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp --- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Re: Apple-Crop: Paula Red - Water Core Problem
Joanne, watercore is a physiological disorder whose cause is many and
not terribly well understood. Suffice it to say, it should clue you
off to a few things:
1.) It is a good indicator of maturity, in this case over-maturity.
Watercore fruit should be harvested ASAP.
2.) It may be an indicator of low calcium levels in the fruit --
fruit seem to be large this year on average, we have had plenty of
rain, so calcium levels in fruit may be low despite our efforts to
supply calcium. Our Paulared crop in Belchertown is very heavy,
further exacerbating the problem. I am not sure if we can implicate
Apogee use in any of this?
3.) Water core fruit should not be stored if you can avoid it.
4.) Some cultures place a premium on watercore ('Honeycore') fruit,
particularly for example Fuji. Of course this makes sense given that
it is a sign of mature fruit, hence high in sugars and complexity of
flavor.
For a more complete explanation on the phenomenon, see:
http://postharvest.tfrec.wsu.edu/pgDisplay.php?article=N3I4A
Good luck and don't sweat it too much.
Jon
Jon Clements
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On Aug 18, 2007, at 7:40 AM, JOANNE DINARDO wrote:
We have experienced water core in about 30% of our Paula Red Apples.
They are in two different blocks in the orchard and the problem exists
throughout the crop. The problem is on small and large apples and on
almost ripe and over ripe apples. The only different chemical that was
used this year was Appogee. We applied calcium as a nutrient but have
done so consistently over the years.
In seven years we have never experienced this problem. Has anyone else
checked on their crop? Has anyone else experienced this under these
unique growing conditions.
Thanks
Joanne DiNardo
Sholan Farms
Leominster, Mass
978-870-
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Re: Apple-Crop: Rachel Carson's legacy
Dave et al, the article appears to be just a free preview now with an upgrade to purchase the whole article. We apologize but apparently apple-crop went on a bit of a hiatus in conjunction with myself, so the posts have not been getting delivered timely. FWIW, my impression of Rachel Carson was that she was in impassioned scientist that appreciated good science but exposed -- what was then -- the indiscriminate use of pesticides that had an extreme impact on non-target wildlife. Carson's work and writing kindled the formation of EPA, whether you consider that good or bad... :-) Jon Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.0382 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp On Jun 5, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Dave Rosenberger wrote: Check out the excellent article on Rachel Carson's legacy in today's NT Times on-line at the web-site noted below. (It will NOT say what you might expect from the Times!) If you go article, it is also worth checking out the link go to tierney lab which appears below the skeleton emerging from the egg- shell. I especially enjoyed the founding principles of the Tierney lab noted on the right-hand side of the page that appears when you click go to tierney lab. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/05/science/earth/05tier.html? _r=18dpcoref=slogin -- ** Dave Rosenberger Professor of Plant PathologyOffice: 845-691-7231 Cornell University's Hudson Valley Lab Fax:845-691-2719 P.O. Box 727, Highland, NY 12528Cell: 845-594-3060 http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/pp/faculty/rosenberger/ -- - The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content. --- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
Apple-Crop: Time article
Although I am hesitant to fan any embers -- I know there are quite a few out there -- into flames, it might be worth your while to pick up the March 12th issue of Time magazine. There is a cover article on organic vs. 'buy local.' A couple quotes: In the end I bought both apples (organic vs. 'conventional New York state local'). They were both good, although the California one had a mealy bit, possibly from it's journey. (Is the author English -- a mealy bit?) Eating locally also seems safer. Ted's (an upstate NY diversified producer) neighbors and customers can see how he farms. That transparency doesn't exist with, say, spinach bagged by a distant agribusiness. I help keep Ted in business, and he helps keep me fed -- and the elegance and sustainability of that exchange make more sense to me than gambling on faceless producers who stamp ORGANIC on a package thousands of miles from home. Now, I have been trying to fully explain the phenomenal direct-market sales many Massachusetts apple growers -- and I understand it was beyond MA too -- had last season. I know the weather was good, and that makes a huge difference, but I am starting to think the buy local campaigns are really kicking in? I found the article interesting, and reasonably balanced, and something we should all be paying attention too. If you did not catch his drift, the author clearly thought buying 'conventional local' was preferable to buying agribusiness 'organic' -- particularly if the petroleum environmental cost was figured in. Any embers glowing brighter yet? :-) Jon Jon Clements Extension Tree Fruit Specialist UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin Street Belchertown, MA 01007 VOICE 413.478.7219 FAX 413.323.0382 IM mrhoneycrisp Skype Name mrhoneycrisp --- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard http://www.virtualorchard.net and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent official opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
