Re: [apple-crop] Bud 118

2014-06-01 Thread Evan B. Milburn
Hugh,
 I don't know where you are located  but I would think Bud 118 is WAY too 
vigorous for that spacing, even with honeycrisp.
Why not a much weaker rootstock and plant  (3) x12?

  Evan Milburn
    www.milburnorchards.com 


On Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:52 AM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote:
  



Next spring, I'm thinking of planting Honeycrisp on Bud 118 with a 4x12 
spacing. Anyone with any ideas or critical remarks on this would be 
appreciated. 
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Re: [apple-crop] Bud 118

2014-06-01 Thread Hugh Thomas
Dennis,
Do you irrigate the Bud 9 trees?


On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 11:25 AM, dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com wrote:

  Interesting, Hal.  We planted Honeycrisp on Bud 9 back in 2004 and they
 are only about 6' to 8' even now..produce a good crop, but never grew
 as we expected.  In fact, we are planning on removing them in the next two
 years or so.  Replanted more in 2006 on M 26 and they have produced
 beautifully.  Spacing was based on previous tree rows...we had M7 planted
 in the same rows previously with 10 x 14 spacing.  Planted the M 26 with 4
 x 14 spacing and trained to tall spindle.  Best Honeycrisp producing trees
 we have.  No fire blight issues and do trunk sprays with Lorsban to keep
 the borers off them.  We are also doing some trial rows on NIC 29 with
 Zestar to see how they perform to tall spindle.

 I'm sure you have made sure the graft unions were above grade. but if your
 guys are like ours, we have to make a double effort to make sure those
 graft unions don't get buried along with the roots!  I'm sure you are aware
 that if the union does get below grade, the dwarfing effect of the
 rootstock is gone.

 Dennis Norton
 IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman
 Royal Oak Farm Orchard
 15908 Hebron Rd.
 Harvard, IL 60033-9357
 Office (815) 648-4467
 Mobile (815) 228-2174
 Fax (609) 228-2174
 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Hal Wentzel appl...@gmail.com
 *To:* Apple-crop discussion list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net
 *Sent:* Sunday, June 01, 2014 7:22 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] Bud 118

 I planted Honeycrisp on what I thought was Bud 9 on 4x15.  I have a strong
 suspicion that they were on Bud 118, but I can't verify that.  I've had a
 heck of time with their vigor.  It took them about 6 years to calm down,
 and I've had to do some heavy pruning to contain their growth.


 On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Next spring, I'm thinking of planting Honeycrisp on Bud 118 with a 4x12
 spacing. Anyone with any ideas or critical remarks on this would be
 appreciated.

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 Niagara, WI  54151
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[apple-crop] Bud 118

2014-05-31 Thread Hugh Thomas
Next spring, I'm thinking of planting Honeycrisp on Bud 118 with a 4x12
spacing. Anyone with any ideas or critical remarks on this would be
appreciated.
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