Re: [aqm] New I-D: draft-briscoe-aqm-dualq-coupled-00.txt

2015-08-10 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi Yuchung, Bob, (w/o chair hat) Wouldn't be a sensible reaction, in the scenario sketched by Yuchung, to have at least one MSS memory available at all times for L4S queues, and drop from the classic queue if that cann't be guaranteed earlier? Best regards, Richard -Original

Re: [aqm] Minutes of the AQM WG session

2015-07-23 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
, Richard -Original Message- From: Dave Taht [mailto:dave.t...@gmail.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2015 13:24 To: Scheffenegger, Richard Cc: aqm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [aqm] Minutes of the AQM WG session 1) in hard delay targets, I am credited with what matt mathis said (not that I

[aqm] FW: [tsvwg] New Liaison Statement, Explicit Congestion Notification for Lower Layer Protocols

2015-07-21 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Title: Explicit Congestion Notification for Lower Layer Protocols Submission Date: 2015-07-20 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1424/ Please reply by 2015-10-30 From: Transport Area Working Group (David Black david.bl...@emc.com) To: 3GPP

[aqm] WGLC for draft-ietf-aqm-ecn-benefits

2015-07-13 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi Group, during the WGLC started end of April, the authors have received quite a bit of feedback. It's the chair's understanding that all the raised concerns have Been addressed in the lastest version of this document https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-aqm-ecn-benefits-05.txt

[aqm] agenda for IETF 93 / Prague

2015-07-13 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hello AQMers! We have requested and were granted a short slot at IETF 93 in Prague, it's the last 1-hour slot on Monday evening: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/agenda/agenda-93-aqm There has been some behind the scenes discussion on the ordering of the talks, and I'm afraid that this is

Re: [aqm] think once to mark, think twice to drop: draft-ietf-aqm-ecn-benefits-02

2015-03-28 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
David, Perhaps you would care to provide some text to address the misconception that you pointed out? (To wait for a 100% fix as a 90% fix appears much less appealing, while the current state of art is at 0%) If you think that aqm-recommendations is not strogly enough worded. I think this

Re: [aqm] adoption of draft-white-aqm-docsis-pie-01

2015-03-27 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
the meeting is already assigned to other documents (Nobody will be left out :) Thanks, Richard (co-chair) -Original Message- From: aqm [mailto:aqm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Scheffenegger, Richard Sent: Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 08:45 To: Greg White; 'aqm@ietf.org' Cc

[aqm] IETF 92 slides

2015-03-24 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi, for some unknown reason, the slides are not properly linked here https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/materials.html#tsv Please find the links in the meantime here: Richard Scheffenegger Storage Infrastructure Architect NetApp Austria GmbH +43 676 6543146 Tel +43 1 3676811-3100 Fax

Re: [aqm] IETF 92 slides

2015-03-24 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
And, pressed the wrong button (or the right one too early): Here is the currently working link https://tools.ietf.org/wg/aqm/agenda Best regards, Richard From: Scheffenegger, Richard Sent: Dienstag, 24. März 2015 06:21 To: 'aqm@ietf.org' Subject: IETF 92 slides Hi, for some unknown reason

Re: [aqm] [Bloat] speedtest-like results for 3g and 4g at ofcom

2015-03-02 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Provided they share the whole set of data collected to the individual participants on their dashboard, they don't seem to be collecting anything other than UDP latency (without background load up or down) Richard -Original Message- From: aqm [mailto:aqm-boun...@ietf.org] On

Re: [aqm] analysis paper on PIE...

2014-11-12 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi Martin, I believe these papers may qualify that requirement: http://ipv6.cablelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/DOCSIS-AQM_May2014.pdf http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=6925768 https://www.duo.uio.no/handle/10852/37381 tl;dr - both pie and codel camps did some

[aqm] draft-hoeiland-joergensen-aqm-fq-codel

2014-11-12 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Toke Høiland- Jørgensen Sent: Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014 10:36 To: Scheffenegger, Richard Cc: aqm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [aqm] Draft Agenda for IETF91 Scheffenegger, Richard r...@netapp.com writes: 14:40 draft-hoeiland-joergensen-aqm-fq-codel Toke

Re: [aqm] adoption call: draft-welzl-ecn-benefits

2014-08-29 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi Gorry, Given QUIC includes FEC to hide losses, I guess it is a good example to consider whether ECN still offers sufficient benefits over and above just removing losses. GF: And then, isn't the implication of AQM to significantly increase the number of losses unless we use ECN?

Re: [aqm] New Version Notification for draft-baker-aqm-sfq-implementation-00.txt

2014-06-23 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
as individual Hi Fred, thank you for writing this down; one aspect that gets referred to, but not made completely explicit in sections 3.2 and 3.3 is the interaction of the AQM / Queue signals with the transport control loop. IMHO, it should be made very clear, when the AQM action is done

Re: [aqm] questions for draft-welzl-ecn-benefits

2014-05-23 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
[as individual] Hi Lingli, If you mean by „unified deployment” that you need similar AQM schemes with the same parameters/goals, then no; For ECN to achieve its goal (provided the end hosts are reactive), only the marking probability needs to be roughly proportional to the level of

Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation-03.txt

2014-03-05 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi, As discussed this week, we will start a rather short WGLC on this document, as it's the first milestone of the AQM WG. We would like to encourage final reviews, including nits, and will conclude the WGLC period in about 2 weeks time, at 20. March 2014. Richard Scheffenegger AQM WG

Re: [aqm] Draft Agenda for IETF89

2014-02-17 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
...@ifi.uio.no] Sent: Montag, 17. Februar 2014 10:21 To: Dave Taht Cc: Scheffenegger, Richard; aqm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [aqm] Draft Agenda for IETF89 On 16. feb. 2014, at 20:35, Dave Taht wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Michael Welzl mich...@ifi.uio.no wrote: 14:40 draft

Re: [aqm] Draft Agenda for IETF89

2014-02-17 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi Michael, Thanks for providing the correct draft name; I updated the agenda accordingly. Richard Scheffenegger (co-chair). Charter items - 14:40 draft-fairhurst-ecn-motivation Gorry Fairhurst 15 min This is apparently not a published draft yet. It's draft-welzl-ecn-benefits,

[aqm] Draft Agenda for IETF89

2014-02-13 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi, The draft agenda for this IETF meeting in London has currently the following points. Please let me know if you disagree with the ordering, length or anything else! Best regards, Richard Scheffenegger (aqm-chair)

Re: [aqm] [AQM Evaluation Guidelines]

2014-02-07 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
-Original Message- From: Nicolas KUHN [mailto:nicolas.k...@telecom-bretagne.eu] Sent: Freitag, 07. Februar 2014 12:58 To: Scheffenegger, Richard Cc: aqm@ietf.org Subject: [AQM Evaluation Guidelines] Dear all, On the behalf of the contributors to the AQM Evaluation Guidelines, I

[aqm] WG status

2014-02-05 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi, a new month, a new status report. First of all, Wes and I as chairs would like to thank the editors who have stepped forward to work on the AQM Evaluation Guideline draft. We are really thankful for their burst of efforts in the last couple weeks! We expect that that a document will be

[aqm] IETF 88 Agenda

2013-10-20 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
Hi, A tentative agenda has been uploaded to http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/agenda/agenda-88-aqm We plan to spend the majority of the 1st session (Tuesday) on the adopted AQM recommendations draft, and the 2nd slot (Friday) mostly on the AQM evaluation criteria discussion. We would also