arachne-digest Sunday, April 23 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1094 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:32:24 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Just me? Ignored graphics On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:54:39, Dale Mentzer wrote: > So what happens when Arachne tries to convert filename.jpg (which is > really filename.png, but incorrectly named)? A red box? I see this on > the my custom Snap.com page at FreeWWWeb as well as other sites. Yes, exactly. This is because Arachne is then looking for the .bmp to display in that box. Since no .bmp is found, the box is turned to red so that we will know that something is wrong. If Arachne simply left the box blank (as it was before the graphic was D/Led), we would then assume that the graphic had not been received. - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:03:41 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: running the Web with the browser? where.....practical Dear List: Hello, again, "dos Arachnifites" :). The browser is working pretty good with some exceptions. I was able to load 3 commercial web sites and print off the "M-word" home page and download from Yahoo.com! Hope you got my mail from the new address and it comes across on your Insight Windows pretty good. I will enclose a sample of my modifications to Arachne.cfg to make it more user-friendly for my provider. I also added a line which I do not know if Core.exe with support: "SecAlternateServer", etc. or something. Here it goes: Arachne cfg. file from 4/21/00: ;This is ARACHNE.CFG for Arachne version 1.4+ ;(tested with Shiva PPP server) ;If you want to connect with typical PPP dial-up, start with this file. ;This configuration file can be completely controled from Arachne setup. ;Run "setup" if you are not sure what to change in configuration file. [profile] Profile PPP.ACF Connection @ lh epppd.exe>>PPP.LOG Hangup @termin.com 0x60>NUL ;Connection @cmd ... command cmd will estabilish connection ;Connection READY ... connection is permanent, packet driver in AUTOEXEC... ;Connection NUL ... do not start TCP/IP (run "arachne -c" to force this) [dialer] DialPage file:ppp_init.htm Dialer TerminalWindow @MINITERM.EXE UseTerminal Yes Port 2 Irq 3 Base Default Mode 8N1 Speed 19200 InitString ATZ DialString ATX3DT, PhoneNumber 460-3850 Autologin No WaitFor1 -45 Response1 - /u WaitFor2 -45 Response2 - /p WaitFor3 -45 Response3 - /u WaitFor4 -15 Response4 - /p PPPusername [EMAIL PROTECTED] PPPpassword bnsikvsv ;Base values: Default|0x??? (eg. 0x3e8) ;Mode values: databits/parity/stopbits (eg. 8N1) [tcp/ip] IP_Address BOOTP IP_Grab MYIP NameServer 207.69.188.185 AltNameServer 207.69.188.186 SecAltNameServer 207.69.188.187 Gateway 0.0.0.0 AltGateway 0.0.0.0 Netmask 244.0.0.0 TCPconfig PPPTCP.CFG ;IP_Address n.n.n.n ... fixed IP address ;IP_Address PPP ... for PPP.EXE and PPPD.EXE (get address from PPP.LOG) ;IP_Address BOOTP ... WatTcp attepmts to use BOOTP protocol ;IP_Address %enviro% ... Minuet style (enviroment variable, like %MYIP%) ;IP_Address WATTCP ... use ONLY values from TCPconfig (variable "my_ip") ;IP_Grab string ... prefix of IP address in PPP.LOG ("IP address set to") ;TCPconfig filename ... name of WatTcp configuration file (often WATTCP.CFG) [mail] SMTPserver mail.mindspring.com POP3server pop.mindspring.com POP3username tt4 POP3password bnsikvsv KeepOnServer No eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PersonalName Arachne User Organization Arachne Fan Club TimeZone UseSignature No SignatureFile SIGN.TXT MailEncoding MIME MailSortOrder DateSnt NoHELO Yes KillSent Yes MailIdxTemplate idxfast.htp ForwardString1 ----- Forwarded message begin ----- ForwardString2 ------ Forwarded message end ------ ReplyString On %s, %s wrote: MyCharset US-ASCII MailBodyEncoding quoted-printable ;MailSortOrder values: DateRcv|DateSnt|Address|Subject [internet] HTTPproxy proxy.provider.com:8080 UseProxy No HomePage http://www.mindspring.com SearchPage http://search.mindspring.com SearchEngine http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?q= FTPusername user FTPpassword xxxxxx FTPhost ftp.provider.com FTPpath /home/user/ AcceptCharset ISO-8859-1,* [system] Hotlist .\HOTLIST.HTM History .\HISTORY.LST CookieFile .\COOKIES.LST CacheIndex .\CACHE.IDX CachePath CACHE\ Cache2TEMP No MailPath MAIL\ DownloadPath DOWNLOAD\ By the way, is there some modification that I can make to the modem config to get rid of that pesky dialtone and/or mute the sound of the dialing. I may be moving somewhere where they find this to be annoying. Yours Sinceely, Thomas Tabler ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:25:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: !!!!! :-( Please don't send MIME attachments to Arachne mailing list. They won't go through arachne-digest mailing list, and I repeatedly encourage everyone to move to arachne-digest from regular mailing list. It would make things easier.... If you absolutely need to send some binary file, try UUENCODE, because it will go through arachne-digest in usable form. But I would prefere to avoid binary files in list if possible. BTW, Linux version is very close to be usable: it shows Arachne icons, GIF images, HTML with proportional fonts. But I have problems with user interface - Linux is missing bioskey() call.... I think alpha version for Linux is going out within few days, maybe in one or two weeks. I already have wrote manual page for Linux Arachne ;-) More will be discussed in arachne-development list.... - -- http://arachne.cz/ (Arachne Labs: internet - software - linux - mp3) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:44:30 -0500 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: running the Web with the browser? where.....practical [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > By the way, is there some modification that I can make to the > modem config to get > rid of that pesky dialtone and/or mute the sound of the dialing. I may > be moving somewhere where they find this to be annoying. Just add L0 (that's ell zero) to the end of the modem init string. BTW, Arachne will ignore Secaltnamserver. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:03:25 -0500 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: running the Web with the browser? where.....practical [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > By the way, is there some modification that I can make to the > modem config to get > rid of that pesky dialtone and/or mute the sound of the dialing. I may > be moving somewhere where they find this to be annoying. Just add L0 (that's ell zero) to the end of the modem init string. BTW, Arachne will ignore Secaltnamserver. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:59:29 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Unhappy *is* correct! Re: !!!!! :-( So MIME attachments won't process through the digest... just one more way DOS beta testers are being relegated to second class because our messages "overload the server." And this continual request to move to digest format -- when Arachne is not capable of handling digest mail as individual messages -- is aggravating to me. Me, I'm only an old lady who can be a PITA ... but can you imagine that maybe other people, particularly newbies to the software, also might find digest mode hard to handle in Arachne? It seems that now we've been testing Arachne for DOS for these many many months, DOS Arachne users don't count any more? It almost feels like someone is saying "Thanks a bunch, but GOODBYE!" and slamming the door in our faces so we couldn't eat the dinner made from the food we helped to grow. :< You'd think that it would be easier & MUCH QUICKER for Michael to simply upgrade, or add on to, his server to cope with the tiny bit [relatively speaking] of mail involving the DOS version list. I would move to digest version if Michael would produce an integrated reader that broke digest messages down to individual messages I could work with. But I don't have the time or energy to try to come up with linking something extra external onto Arachne to do that like some apparently have managed to do. I wonder if the "developers" mailing list is being requested to go to digest form, or if their ability to attach files is being removed? l.d. P.S. Any of you DOSasauers out there really understand how the htp/dgi stuff works within Arachne? I can't do anything based upon CGI and html information because Arachne dgi has other commands/protocols/ whatever that just don't work the same. I've *almost* got a really nice modification done, but I'm up against a wall at this stage. P.P.S. Can anyone explain why we can copy *to* the "To" field in mail editor, but can't copy *from* that field? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:54:09 From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another possible FreeISP On 21 Apr 00 at 8:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Thanks for following up on this Dale. Like I said, I would have tried it >>before I posted it, but I had to sacrifice my phone line to my computer for >>our DirectTV. I got a new phone line yesterday, so I should be able to do >>things with my computer again. >> >>Matt Good news for us Arachneans, 1 NationOnline works fine with Arachne. The dialup number here in town will not let me logon to the network, but another local number in the larger nearby city works fine, though I only connected at 28.8k, and my modem is 33.6k. I get 33.6 connections on FreeWWWeb with the same local number I can't connect to 1NOL on. You have to use the same logon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) tactic as FreeWWWeb to connect. They are probably renting the same nationwide dialup network (UUNET) as FreeWWWeb. I have used PAP/CHAP and terminal login and either works. I contacted their free dialup tech support trying to get Netscape/IE to connect and the only thing they could recommend was to "upgrade" to W9x. One good note is that I was on hold for less than a minute before my call was answered. Curiously, Netscape seemed to have some problems with their 1NOL pages, indicating that the page was downloaded, but displaying nothing on the screen. Arachne worked fine, except for the secure pages and there is some Javascript on the page where you configure your mailbox. They have web access to your email there also, a nice feature I think. I have not tried POP3/SMTP. There is also a news server, something FreeWWWeb does not offer. Regards, Dale Mentzer This mail written by a user of Arachne, the DOS Internet Client WWWWW World Wide Web Without Windows http://home.arachne.cz Arachne DOS Browser Home Page ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:00:51 From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Just me? Ignored graphics On 21 Apr 00 at 11:32, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >>On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:54:39, Dale Mentzer wrote: >> >>> So what happens when Arachne tries to convert filename.jpg (which is >>> really filename.png, but incorrectly named)? A red box? I see this on the >>> my custom Snap.com page at FreeWWWeb as well as other sites. >> >> Yes, exactly. >>This is because Arachne is then looking for the .bmp to display in that box. >>Since no .bmp is found, the box is turned to red so that we will know that >>something is wrong. If Arachne simply left the box blank (as it was before >>the graphic was D/Led), we would then assume that the graphic had not been >>received. I guess we need conversion programs sophisticated enough to check for format before converting. Regards, Dale Mentzer Advertising (n): the science of arresting the human intelligence for long enough to get money from it. -- Stephen Leacock. This mail written by a user of Arachne, the DOS Internet Client WWWWW World Wide Web Without Windows http://home.arachne.cz Arachne DOS Browser Home Page ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:54:59 -0500 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Unhappy *is* correct! Re: !!!!! :-( L.D. Best wrote: > > P.P.S. Can anyone explain why we can copy *to* the "To" field in mail > editor, but can't copy *from* that field? Hi LD; Re: Your pps. It's not a Textarea so you can't mark it like a block. It's not a REAL URL (link) so you can't grab it with shiftENTER. Those are why you can't copy FROM it. It's a variable (Universal Resource Identifier) named "$To". Why you CAN copy TO it I have no idea. <g> - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:46:34 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: running the Web with the browser? where.....practical On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:44:30 -0500 Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> By the way, is there some modification that I can make to >the >> modem config to get >> rid of that pesky dialtone and/or mute the sound of the dialing. I >may >> be moving somewhere where they find this to be annoying. > >Just add L0 (that's ell zero) to the end of the modem init string. > >BTW, Arachne will ignore Secaltnamserver. > >- Clarence Verge >-- >- Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ >-- > > Dear Clarence: Thanks a lot. I haven't tried out that modem stuff yet but I will sure like that effect a lot. I reloaded Arachne this last time with Logitech driver {eq. MS-MOUSE 8.20). It seems to run easier now. Also, learning the key combos help. I think I can get along O.K. without DOSMAX or a different disk compression utility. Looks like Michael got back to work so maybe I should get back to other things for a while. I need to find out more about Linux before I consider his new product. I heard Linux was like Win 98, incredibly disk-hungry and a friend said a friend of his crashed his drive installing Linux. Is this just Microsoft type scare story? Yours, Thomas/Tom ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 06:02:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another possible FreeISP > I guess I am going to have to try their tech support to see if I can connect with IE and them maybe I can figure out how to make it happen with Arachne. I tried to access the signup page with Arachne, but I get an error message that the protocol was not supported by Arachne (probably https or javascript). > You should see the URL at the bottom, beginning with https:// or javascri, if that should be the case. Somehow with Arachne, I don't see the "pt" of "javascript". I might possibly try http://join.at/1nol/ myself. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 08:38:54 -0600 From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another possible FreeISP On 21 Apr 00 at 22:46, Matt Bahls wrote: >>Could you tell me how you got connected, Dale? I just tried it through >>terminal mode and after I would enter my password, I could keep hitting >>enter and nothing would work. >> >>Is that similar to the problem that you had? Maybe I will try another >>number that is long distance like you had to. Well, you have to enter "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" at the "Login:" prompt (your username of course and no quotations marks). Then you enter your password. If this does not work, then yes, this is the same problem I had. Fortunately I had 3 local dialup numbers to choose from. I had problems with 2 of them and reported them to customer service. I hope that helps. Regards, Dale Mentzer Cleavage (n): something you can approve of and look down on at the same time. -- W. Garnett. This mail written by a user of Arachne, the DOS Internet Client WWWWW World Wide Web Without Windows http://home.arachne.cz Arachne DOS Browser Home Page ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 08:38:15 -0600 From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another possible FreeISP On 22 Apr 00 at 6:02, Thomas Mueller wrote: >>You should see the URL at the bottom, beginning with https:// or javascri, if >>that should be the case. Somehow with Arachne, I don't see the "pt" of >>"javascript". I might possibly try http://join.at/1nol/ myself. The web based mail access appears to be accessible with Arachne, though I don't think you can make any changes in your mailbox setup with Arachne, as I think it uses Javascript, though the page displays OK. I think I prefer FreeWWWeb though. Regards, Dale Mentzer I started out with nothing...I still have most of it. This mail written by a user of Arachne, the DOS Internet Client WWWWW World Wide Web Without Windows http://home.arachne.cz Arachne DOS Browser Home Page ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 06:20:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another possible FreeISP Dale, FreeWWWeb has no news server? I thought their information page said there was a news server, news.freewwweb.com, though I saw news.smartworld.net on another page. Why would one want to use Web access to email instead of POP3/SMTP which is Javascript-proof? Is 28.8k 1 Nation Online's top speed? ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #1094 ******************************
