Re: HotMail, Win9X, Rants etc...

2003-08-14 Thread david gunnells
Greg Mayman wrote:

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:13:29 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
 

If it were true that that Micro$oft were involved with protecting
US national security interests, then why haven't they fixed the
security problems with Hotmail?
   

Maybe the security forces want Hotmail insecure so they can access
anyone's email...
Didn't I hear something on the news a month or two back about US
security wanting to access everyone's email?
Greg

Hello Greg, Sam, all:

 Almost by definition, email is insecure. If someone gets between you 
and hotmail, reading your messages would be trivial.

OTOH, Big Brother has been steadily pouring millions (US $) into 
Omnivore, Carnivore, Dragon Net, DragonWare, etc. (see 
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/omnivoreproposal.html among there 
many FOIA documents posted on 
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/foia_documents.html) in hopes of 
being able to pick a needle (packet stream) out of a hay stack without 
compromising others' privacy. The thing that gets me, is that most ISPs 
should have the technical know-how and means to comply w/ electronic 
wiretap court orders w/o having to install a crappy winblows-based 
packet-sniffing setup like the one being thrown together for millions of 
(wasted tax payers') dollars...

may this reach you smiling!
david


Re: HotMail, Win9X, Rants etc...

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Mayman
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:49:18 -0500, david gunnells wrote:


 compromising others' privacy. The thing that gets me, is that most ISPs
 should have the technical know-how and means to comply w/ electronic
 wiretap court orders w/o having to install a crappy winblows-based
 packet-sniffing setup like the one being thrown together for millions of
 (wasted tax payers') dollars...

That's almost certainly correct. But it isn't the job of Big Brudder to
know this. They rely on the advice of consultants to find out how to 
intercept email. And almost certainly those 'consultants will have a 
vested interest in developing and selling some expensive software
to their biggest customer, the gummint!

They haven't heard of the old saying: Never ask the barber whether you 
need a shave. G

Let's face it. The gummints main job is to spend the taxpayers money,
isn't it? 

And by buying expensive software they are at least keeping some software 
gurus employed.

Greg Mayman

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Re: HotMail, Win9X, Rants etc...

2003-08-11 Thread Gregory Parks
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:42:53 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

 On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:13:29 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

 If it were true that that Micro$oft were involved with protecting
 US national security interests, then why haven't they fixed the
 security problems with Hotmail?

 Maybe the security forces want Hotmail insecure so they can access
 anyone's email...

 Didn't I hear something on the news a month or two back about US
 security wanting to access everyone's email?

Yes and that is why it is now federal law for anyone sending email from,
to, or about the US to cc the federal government! ...B-)


 Greg

have fun, Greg


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