Re: arachne-digest V1 #1993

2002-12-29 Thread Thomas Mueller
> GEOWORKS supported long filenames in DOS several years before Microsoft
> managed to get 95 launched. So Microsoft has no claim to the idea
> whatsoever.

> Sam Ewalt
> Croswell, Michigan, USA

Microsoft's own Windows NT came before 95, and featured support for long file
names with NTFS.  Before that, IBM-Microsoft OS/2 supported long file names
with HPFS.  Then there were various Unixes too.



Re: arachne-digest V1 #1993

2002-12-25 Thread Sam Ewalt
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 20:05:11 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:


>> Then what about that ever-so-useful suite of LFN compatible DOS utilities
>> (LCOPY.EXE, LDIR.EXE, ... etc.)?  Would Bill make the earth shake in his
>> wrath if he knew about them?

> Hmmm,
> And not to mention... LFNDOS by Chris Jones. ;-)


GEOWORKS supported long filenames in DOS several years before Microsoft
managed to get 95 launched. So Microsoft has no claim to the idea
whatsoever.






Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Re: arachne-digest V1 #1993

2002-12-25 Thread flox
And not to mention... LFNDOS by Chris Jones. ;-)


I think the best is DOSLFN (link at www.opus.co.tt/dave/)

bye, flox
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Re: arachne-digest V1 #1993

2002-12-24 Thread Roger Turk
The first PC word processor that I used, the Leading Edge Word Processor 
(LEWP) that came with the first PC I bought, the Leading Edge Model D (~1986) 
used long file names and the same technique that M$ uses, the alias file.  
The only difference between M$'s LFN and LEWP's LFN is that BG puts a tilde 
before the number, whereas LEWP had no special character between the number 
and the truncated file name.

It seems to me that M$'s LFN is a hoax --- it looks at the LFN, goes to the 
alias file and finds what 8.3 file name really is used to access the file.

If you go to the DOS screen in Windoze and want to go to the "Program Files" 
folder, you have to "CD PROGRA~1" and the same with other folders/files, 
eliminating spaces and truncating the LFN to 8.3.

Holiday greetings to all around the world.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona

Glenn McC and Ray Andrews wrote:

. > On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:14:02 -0800, Ray Andrews wrote:

. > > Hi Michal,

. > > Thanks for the info on DRFAT32 and freeDOS.

. > > It looks to me like you've bagged the "\\" bug once and for all.
. > > With Clarence incomunicado, I vote for you as our new official ASM guru.

. > >> Long filenames are not supported, because Micros**t has some patent
. > >> on it.

. > > Then what about that ever-so-useful suite of LFN compatible DOS 
. > utilities > (LCOPY.EXE, LDIR.EXE, ... etc.)? Would Bill make the earth 
. > shake in his > wrath if he knew about them?

. > Hmmm,
. > And not to mention... LFNDOS by Chris Jones. ;-)

. > -- 
. >  Glenn



Re: arachne-digest V1 #1993

2002-12-24 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:14:02 -0800, Ray Andrews wrote:

> Hi Michal,

> Thanks for the info on DRFAT32 and freeDOS.

> It looks to me like you've bagged the "\\" bug once and for all.
> With Clarence incomunicado, I vote for you as our new official ASM guru.

>> Long filenames are not supported, because Micros**t has some patent
>> on it.

> Then what about that ever-so-useful suite of LFN compatible DOS utilities
> (LCOPY.EXE, LDIR.EXE, ... etc.)?  Would Bill make the earth shake in his
> wrath if he knew about them?

Hmmm,
And not to mention... LFNDOS by Chris Jones. ;-)

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Re: arachne-digest V1 #1993

2002-12-24 Thread Ray Andrews
Hi Michal,

Thanks for the info on DRFAT32 and freeDOS.

It looks to me like you've bagged the "\\" bug once and for all.
With Clarence incomunicado, I vote for you as our new official ASM guru.

> Long filenames are not supported, because Micros**t has some patent
> on it.

Then what about that ever-so-useful suite of LFN compatible DOS utilities 
(LCOPY.EXE, LDIR.EXE, ... etc.)?  Would Bill make the earth shake in his
wrath if he knew about them?


Ray Andrews,
Vancouver, Canada



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