Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping nvidia-340xx series
Em maio 21, 2019 11:40 Ralph Corderoy escreveu: That's a good idea. I'll try switching to nouveau and seeing if that handles video well on here now. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau#Keep_NVIDIA_driver_installed I think nouveau will probably perform better for most of the hardware covered by 340xx. If nobody steps up in the following days I'll drop the package to the AUR. Doesn't help keeping it rotting in our repo when the next kernel update will make it obsolete. Regards, Giancarlo Razzolini pgp8wcuW4gbnN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-dev-public] Mkinitcpio replacement with Dracut
Em maio 21, 2019 14:08 Doug Newgard via arch-dev-public escreveu: A hook would be good, but might need to be in the kernel packages like the current hooks are. Kernel versions are hard-coded in the hook. It would also be nice to rename the initramfs so that we've got both available, I just put -dracut in it for testing this. Yes the hook could be versioned, but dracut has --kver and some other stuff we can use to rebuild the image when you update the kernel and the kernel on disk is different than the booted one. You can use the -dracut nomenclature for now, or you can replace the default initramfs. Your choice really. As long as you have the fallback working, shouldn't be a problem. I also cannot emphasize this more, people testing dracut should probably have an arch iso handy in case something goes wrong. Other than that, please lets test everything possible. Regards, Giancarlo Razzolini pgpOWdnSfzZ5D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-dev-public] Mkinitcpio replacement with Dracut
Em maio 21, 2019 12:29 Maxime Gauduin via arch-dev-public escreveu: Hi Giancarlo, Did some initial testing on my system, I was almost able to get a working initrd after a few tweaks [0] and a little patching [1] to use fs-lib with bash and without systemd. However I can't use my usb keyboard and mouse when greeted by gdm. I'll keep looking into it unless you have some pointers at the ready. Using the following command to generate the initrd: mkinitrd --xz /boot/initramfs-5.1.3-zen1-1-zen.img And the resulting lsinitrd [2]. Thanks. This is precisely the kind of testing we need. Including different kernels. I tried only on linux and linux-lts so far. It's weird your keyboard is not running when hitting gdm, because, at that point the initramfs shouldn't have any interference. Also, any reason to use xz? I know that not everyone has a big boot partition and images created by dracut (even with -H) are larger than mkinitcpio's. By jelle's suggestion, can we concentrate the bug reports on the bugtracker? I think it will be better. Thanks again. Regards, Giancarlo Razzolini pgpNpFk2xIf4W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-dev-public] Mkinitcpio replacement with Dracut
On Tue, 21 May 2019 13:51:43 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-dev-public wrote: > Em maio 21, 2019 2:24 Ike Devolder via arch-dev-public escreveu: > > > > Without looking at dracut yet, I have a few questions: > > - Is there a description how to move from mkinitcpio to dracut? > > No, not yet. But it is as simple as running dracut -H -f > /boot/initramfs-linux.img, for > trying it out. I'll work later this week on a wiki page, but the good thing > is, it has > plenty documentation available. > > > > - Does dracut support what mkinitcpio has? all the hooks and stuff > > It does support even more than we do currently. It can boot from pretty much > anything, > including NFS and NBD. > > > - did you already add pacman hooks for dracut as we need for mkinitcpio, > > or is that not needed? > > > > We will certainly need a hook to trigger the rebuild, but I didn't add it as > a part of > the dracut package yet, because I need to write them, but I want first to see > if dracut > is a good fit for Arch or not. A hook would be good, but might need to be in the kernel packages like the current hooks are. Kernel versions are hard-coded in the hook. It would also be nice to rename the initramfs so that we've got both available, I just put -dracut in it for testing this. > > > When I have some time to spare I certainly will try it out. > > > > Please do. And make sure you have your fallback image working when you do. > > Regards, > Giancarlo Razzolini
Re: [arch-dev-public] Mkinitcpio replacement with Dracut
Em maio 21, 2019 2:24 Ike Devolder via arch-dev-public escreveu: Without looking at dracut yet, I have a few questions: - Is there a description how to move from mkinitcpio to dracut? No, not yet. But it is as simple as running dracut -H -f /boot/initramfs-linux.img, for trying it out. I'll work later this week on a wiki page, but the good thing is, it has plenty documentation available. - Does dracut support what mkinitcpio has? all the hooks and stuff It does support even more than we do currently. It can boot from pretty much anything, including NFS and NBD. - did you already add pacman hooks for dracut as we need for mkinitcpio, or is that not needed? We will certainly need a hook to trigger the rebuild, but I didn't add it as a part of the dracut package yet, because I need to write them, but I want first to see if dracut is a good fit for Arch or not. When I have some time to spare I certainly will try it out. Please do. And make sure you have your fallback image working when you do. Regards, Giancarlo Razzolini pgpTcubyZp3iF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-dev-public] Mkinitcpio replacement with Dracut
On Mon, 2019-05-20 at 23:41 -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-dev- public wrote: > Hi All, > > Recently, Dave announced his intention to step down as mkinitcpio > maintainer. I have been > handling a few things on it, made some small changes to our > mkinitcpio-busybox [0], closed a few old > bugs, while also made sure some of the other bug reports are still > valid. [1] > > I have been testing a few patches to mkinitcpio for a while to fix > those bugs, but last week Dave > and I had a discussion on IRC and we agreed that we could spend > better time contributing somewhere > else than keeping working with mkinitcpio. > > Currently mkinitcpio cannot boot from NFS properly, mknitcpio-nfs- > utils [2] uses very old code. Even > though ipconfig works, it has several drawbacks compared to using > more modern tools. Not to mention that > we have two use cases for mkinitcpio, which are base and systemd > enabled initramfs. Even though we use > by default our base enabled initramfs, we have to support systemd > related issues and we have to keep > developing our systemd hooks. > > I have been looking into dracut for some time now, I copied some > stuff from them on a few of my own > scripts and they also have an actual test suite, that we currently > can't use on Arch, but I plan to > change that. > > With this in mind, I have packaged dracut for Arch and put it on > Extra [3]. I have been using a dracut > initramfs for a while now to boot my encrypted partition. > Surprisingly, I only had to create a small patch > to one of the dm-crypt module scripts [4] > > In this initial phase I want to ask as many of you to test this as a > replacement to mkinitcpio in your setups, > as many as possible, and in as many scenarios as possible. We will > probably have to keep both packages on > our repos for a long time, but once we are confident it's a good fit, > we can replace mkinitcpio on our iso and base, > so new installs get dracut by default. > > Please, drop in your comments as well. > > Regards, > Giancarlo Razzolini > > [0] > https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/mkinitcpio-busybox=489fbd6f2ed1defd1c7f1b57e7d6edd25185e6d8 > [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?string=mkinitcpio=0 > [2] https://git.archlinux.org/mkinitcpio-nfs-utils.git/ > [3] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/dracut/ > [4] > https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/0001-90crypt-Change-the-module-setup.sh-to-use-uname-r-in.patch?h=packages/dracut Hi Giancarlo, Did some initial testing on my system, I was almost able to get a working initrd after a few tweaks [0] and a little patching [1] to use fs-lib with bash and without systemd. However I can't use my usb keyboard and mouse when greeted by gdm. I'll keep looking into it unless you have some pointers at the ready. Using the following command to generate the initrd: mkinitrd --xz /boot/initramfs-5.1.3-zen1-1-zen.img And the resulting lsinitrd [2]. Cheers, -- Maxime [0] https://paste.xinu.at/07qqfyuQljNvR1Kh/ [1] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/void-linux/void-packages/fdeed0979a8f63e380d7b8cba24fa0eb2d6f5c7f/srcpkgs/dracut/patches/fix-bash-5.patch [2] https://paste.xinu.at/AhXYJjuCtUR2vY4O/
