Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-09 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public
On 1/2/20 11:35 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote: > After a bit of research work and making sure one or two things have been > properly packaged, I've developed a PKGBUILD which ensures that a system > has the POSIX shell and utilities (XCU) section installed. I believe > this is an interesting thing to

Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public
On 1/3/20 9:47 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> I would argue that POSIX is a standard which people actually care about, >> and LSB is a standard which no one cares about. > > I agree that few people are interested in LSB. I think it's barely the same > for > POSIX. > > Our scripts are not

Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-03 Thread Sébastien Luttringer via arch-dev-public
On Sat, 2020-01-04 at 13:08 +1000, Allan McRae via arch-dev-public wrote: > On 4/1/20 12:47 pm, Sébastien Luttringer via arch-dev-public wrote: > > One unfortunate consequence could be to have packages rely on it to make > > dependencies shorter, and make us pull cups or cronie. > > What?! That

Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-03 Thread Allan McRae via arch-dev-public
On 4/1/20 12:47 pm, Sébastien Luttringer via arch-dev-public wrote: > One unfortunate consequence could be to have packages rely on it to make > dependencies shorter, and make us pull cups or cronie. What?! That is like saying one unfortunate consequence of pamcan hooks is that packages can have

Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-03 Thread Sébastien Luttringer via arch-dev-public
On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 11:11 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote: > On 1/3/20 10:48 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-01-02 at 23:35 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > I would argue that POSIX is a standard which people

Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-03 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public
On 1/3/20 10:48 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-01-02 at 23:35 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote: >> ... >> >> Thoughts? > > Posix is an old standard which fail to make a common ground to Unix systems. > > If we think user needs meta packages to install their Arch,

Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-03 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public
On 1/3/20 10:22 AM, Santiago Torres-Arias via arch-dev-public wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 03:49:11PM +0100, Robin Broda via arch-dev-public > wrote: >> On 1/3/20 5:35 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote: >>> After a bit of research work and making sure one or two things have been >>>

Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-03 Thread Sébastien Luttringer via arch-dev-public
On Thu, 2020-01-02 at 23:35 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote: > ... > > Thoughts? Posix is an old standard which fail to make a common ground to Unix systems. If we think user needs meta packages to install their Arch, is the Linux Standard Base more relevant to us? Cheers,

Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-03 Thread Santiago Torres-Arias via arch-dev-public
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 03:49:11PM +0100, Robin Broda via arch-dev-public wrote: > On 1/3/20 5:35 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote: > > After a bit of research work and making sure one or two things have been > > properly packaged, I've developed a PKGBUILD which ensures that a system >

Re: [arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-03 Thread Robin Broda via arch-dev-public
On 1/3/20 5:35 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote: > After a bit of research work and making sure one or two things have been > properly packaged, I've developed a PKGBUILD which ensures that a system > has the POSIX shell and utilities (XCU) section installed. I believe > this is an

[arch-dev-public] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-02 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public
After a bit of research work and making sure one or two things have been properly packaged, I've developed a PKGBUILD which ensures that a system has the POSIX shell and utilities (XCU) section installed. I believe this is an interesting thing to track, and people will want to know they have it