Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-24 Thread Laurent Carlier
Le vendredi 24 mai 2013 11:43:29 Andrea Scarpino a écrit : > On Friday 24 May 2013 11:27:16 Thomas Bächler wrote: > > Networkmanager's OpenVPN plugins connects to OpenVPN servers and > > receives routes and addresses. It then decides to ignore all routing > > information the server sent and always

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-24 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 24.05.2013 11:43, schrieb Andrea Scarpino: > On Friday 24 May 2013 11:27:16 Thomas Bächler wrote: >> Networkmanager's OpenVPN plugins connects to OpenVPN servers and >> receives routes and addresses. It then decides to ignore all routing >> information the server sent and always sets up a defaul

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-24 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Friday 24 May 2013 11:27:16 Thomas Bächler wrote: > Networkmanager's OpenVPN plugins connects to OpenVPN servers and > receives routes and addresses. It then decides to ignore all routing > information the server sent and always sets up a default route through > the VPN. It also takes some arbit

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-24 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 24.05.2013 11:17, schrieb Andrea Scarpino: > On Friday 24 May 2013 10:37:31 Thomas Bächler wrote: >> NetworkManager's OpenVPN support is broken by design and has always >> been. That said, kovpn is broken, too. > > Could you argument that? I use a OpenVPN network everyday with no issue. Networ

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-24 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Friday 24 May 2013 10:37:31 Thomas Bächler wrote: > NetworkManager's OpenVPN support is broken by design and has always > been. That said, kovpn is broken, too. Could you argument that? I use a OpenVPN network everyday with no issue. -- Andrea Arch Linux Developer

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-24 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 23.05.2013 18:45, schrieb Andrea Scarpino: > I guess many of them could be already removed, e.g.: > * kovpn, NetworkManager (both the plasmoid and the applet) support OpenVPN. NetworkManager's OpenVPN support is broken by design and has always been. That said, kovpn is broken, too. signatur

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-23 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Thursday 23 May 2013 14:41:05 Allan McRae wrote: > Do many apps really still depend on qt3? I though even Debian managed > to go qt3 free in the latest release... I guess many of them could be already removed, e.g.: * kovpn, NetworkManager (both the plasmoid and the applet) support OpenVPN. *

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-23 Thread Giovanni Scafora
Il 23/05/2013 18:14, Gaetan Bisson ha scritto: [2013-05-23 17:29:28 +0200] Giovanni Scafora: Il 23/05/2013 06:32, Tom Gundersen ha scritto: Why? For the same reasons written by Eric. We all can read Eric's emails just fine... and then? I know very well that you can all read the Eric's ema

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-23 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2013-05-23 17:29:28 +0200] Giovanni Scafora: > Il 23/05/2013 06:32, Tom Gundersen ha scritto: > >Why? > > For the same reasons written by Eric. We all can read Eric's emails just fine... -- Gaetan

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-23 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 22.05.2013 16:20, schrieb Eric Bélanger: > Beside the fact that they are old, is there any reason to remove them from > the repo? I maintain these threee packages and they are working well (no > bug assigned). I don't see why they should be removed especially since > many apps still depends on

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-23 Thread Giovanni Scafora
Il 23/05/2013 06:32, Tom Gundersen ha scritto: Why? For the same reasons written by Eric. -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-23 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Alexander Rødseth wrote: > Hi, > > > 2013/5/22 Eric Bélanger : > > Well gtk is a depends for imlib wich is required by fvwm, the WM I use. > > fvwm compiles without imlib and thus without gtk1 > I got an email from a Gentoo dev (Samuli Suominen) : "imlib1 can work

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-23 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Hi, 2013/5/22 Eric Bélanger : > Well gtk is a depends for imlib wich is required by fvwm, the WM I use. fvwm compiles without imlib and thus without gtk1 (As a former fvwm user, for years, I can recommend pekwm or i3 instead). +1 for moving old cruft to AUR -- Sincerely, Alexander Rødseth

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-23 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 23/05/13 00:20, Eric Bélanger wrote: > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Jan Alexander Steffens < > > jan.steff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Greetings everypony, > >> > >> Can we throw out glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3? These are seriously legac

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 23/05/13 00:20, Eric Bélanger wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Jan Alexander Steffens < > jan.steff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Greetings everypony, >> >> Can we throw out glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3? These are seriously legacy >> libraries. >> >> Check "pactree -rs glib" and "pactree -rs qt3"

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-22 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > On Wednesday 22 May 2013 10:20:42 Eric Bélanger wrote: >> Beside the fact that they are old, is there any reason to remove them from >> the repo? I maintain these threee packages and they are working well (no >> bug assigned). I don't see

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-22 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Giovanni Scafora wrote: > Il 21/05/2013 13:12, Jan Alexander Steffens ha scritto: > >> Greetings everypony, >> >> Can we throw out glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3? These are seriously legacy >> libraries. >> >> Check "pactree -rs glib" and "pactree -rs qt3" for dependent pa

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-22 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 22 May 2013 10:20:42 Eric Bélanger wrote: > Beside the fact that they are old, is there any reason to remove them from > the repo? I maintain these threee packages and they are working well (no > bug assigned). I don't see why they should be removed especially since > many apps still

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-22 Thread Giovanni Scafora
Il 21/05/2013 13:12, Jan Alexander Steffens ha scritto: Greetings everypony, Can we throw out glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3? These are seriously legacy libraries. Check "pactree -rs glib" and "pactree -rs qt3" for dependent packages. Cheers, Jan I give a big -1 to removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3 fro

Re: [arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-22 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Jan Alexander Steffens < jan.steff...@gmail.com> wrote: > Greetings everypony, > > Can we throw out glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3? These are seriously legacy > libraries. > > Check "pactree -rs glib" and "pactree -rs qt3" for dependent packages. > > Cheers, > Jan > Well g

[arch-dev-public] Removing glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3

2013-05-21 Thread Jan Alexander Steffens
Greetings everypony, Can we throw out glib 1, gtk 1 and qt3? These are seriously legacy libraries. Check "pactree -rs glib" and "pactree -rs qt3" for dependent packages. Cheers, Jan