Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Balló György via arch-dev-public
2016-09-19 7:02 GMT+02:00 Allan McRae : > This goes beyond just adding SSE2 support. > > Years ago, Arch Linux was "optimised for modern processors". These were > the days when every other distro was using i386 and we had a blazingly > fast i686 port. Now every other distro

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Allan McRae
On 19/09/16 23:14, Balló György via arch-dev-public wrote: > 2016-09-19 7:02 GMT+02:00 Allan McRae : > >> This goes beyond just adding SSE2 support. >> >> Years ago, Arch Linux was "optimised for modern processors". These were >> the days when every other distro was using

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Christian Hesse
Allan McRae on Mon, 2016/09/19 19:34: > On 19/09/16 19:05, Christian Hesse wrote: > > Bartłomiej Piotrowski on Fri, 2016/09/16 > > 21:44: > >> Actually, why don't raise the bar higher? SSE2 has been introduced in > >> 2001 – that's 15 years to

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Ike Devolder via arch-dev-public
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 11:34:07PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > On 19/09/16 23:14, Balló György via arch-dev-public wrote: > > 2016-09-19 7:02 GMT+02:00 Allan McRae : > > > >> This goes beyond just adding SSE2 support. > >> > >> Years ago, Arch Linux was "optimised for modern

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Balló György via arch-dev-public
2016-09-19 15:34 GMT+02:00 Allan McRae : > On 19/09/16 23:14, Balló György via arch-dev-public wrote: > > 2016-09-19 7:02 GMT+02:00 Allan McRae : > > > >> This goes beyond just adding SSE2 support. > >> > >> Years ago, Arch Linux was "optimised for modern

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2016-09-19 20:57:01 +0200] Balló György via arch-dev-public: > 2016-09-19 15:34 GMT+02:00 Allan McRae : > > > > If we limit our choice based on your CPU, then we need to limit based on > > the other CPU mentioned in this thread. > > > > That should not be a consideration at

[arch-dev-public] Signoff report for [testing]

2016-09-19 Thread Arch Website Notification
=== Signoff report for [testing] === https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/ There are currently: * 5 new packages in last 24 hours * 0 known bad packages * 0 packages not accepting signoffs * 1 fully signed off package * 22 packages missing signoffs * 2 packages older than 14 days (Note:

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
I favor 3) as well. Seems rather easy to implement and I don't really think we need to support architecture that old. On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > This goes beyond just adding SSE2 support. > > Years ago, Arch Linux was "optimised for modern

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Christian Hesse
Bartłomiej Piotrowski on Fri, 2016/09/16 21:44: > Actually, why don't raise the bar higher? SSE2 has been introduced in > 2001 – that's 15 years to upgrade one's hardware and given my sad > experiences with computers, I find it hard to believe anyone has that > old PC

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Ike Devolder via arch-dev-public
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 07:38:09PM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: > > > > If we limit our choice based on your CPU, then we need to limit based on > > the other CPU mentioned in this thread. > > > > That should not be a consideration at all. What we need to do is think > > about what make our

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
This would probably be a good time to get a fully automated building setup going. We certainly have the hardware for it now. On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 11:12 PM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > [2016-09-19 20:57:01 +0200] Balló György via arch-dev-public: >> 2016-09-19 15:34 GMT+02:00

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public
On Monday, September 19, 2016 7:34:23 PM CEST Allan McRae wrote: > If we adopt SSE2 in any form, you will need to rebuild your entire > system to use it. It will be used in optimizations everywhere. Just for the record: I also run 2 geode boxes as media players and I'd like to keep them running

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Allan McRae
On 19/09/16 19:05, Christian Hesse wrote: > Bartłomiej Piotrowski on Fri, 2016/09/16 21:44: >> Actually, why don't raise the bar higher? SSE2 has been introduced in >> 2001 – that's 15 years to upgrade one's hardware and given my sad >> experiences with computers, I

Re: [arch-dev-public] i686 and SSE2

2016-09-19 Thread Allan McRae
On 20/09/16 04:30, Ike Devolder via arch-dev-public wrote: > Someone mentioned AVX2, but it seems there is still a patch needed for > glibc. Solus added it very recently https://dev.solus-project.com/T503 > and they have taken it from Clear Linux. Nothing needs done for glibc to use AVX. It