The 23/08/12, Ike Devolder wrote:
No there is no package providing those files.
why ?
if arch would provide you with defaults every time the defaults get updated
you would get *.pacnew files in your etc. since those files are depending on
your system and are user choice it would not be
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote:
The 23/08/12, Ike Devolder wrote:
No there is no package providing those files.
why ?
if arch would provide you with defaults every time the defaults get updated
you would get *.pacnew files in your etc. since
The 24/08/12, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
If the files are provided in linked packages to their functionality,
there'd be a new .pacnew everytime the linked package was updated.
I have no idea what you are talking about, sorry. Packages have
dependencies to other packages and I don't know how a package
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote:
BTW, my point is what kind of upgrade can you reasonably expect for
such files, which you don't reply to.
I can't see the future. 2 years ago would anyone have suggested the
current arrangement?
If the files are
The 24/08/12, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
My understanding is that the conf file locations (and contents) are
synchronized between distros. A side-effect of systemd. Hence I don't
believe Arch is upstream in this case.
AFAIK, systemd does not provide samples for /etc/localtime,
/etc/vconsole.conf, etc.
On Thursday 23 Aug 2012 16:14:26 Qadri wrote:
Is there a package that provides these /etc files, like hostname,
vconsole.conf, locale.conf? It feels weird creating untracked files in
/etc. Is there interest in an aur package (e.g. systemd_etc_files) that I
could make with all the many comments
On Thursday 23 Aug 2012 21:47:14 Norbert Zeh wrote:
I tried to keep my mouth shut but can't resist to reply here because I
simply don't understand how you think the world works. Do you want to see
proof that every piece of open-source software is ready to be used? That's
ridiculous.
Am 23.08.2012 18:52, schrieb Bjoern Franke:
I don't think we will block the move to core on an isolated hardware
crash that affects only a single user.
Sure.
Still, can you give us the link to the kernel bugzilla report for this
crash?
I have another problem - on my atom 570 kvm causes qemu to segfault.
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I tried to keep my mouth shut but can't resist to reply here because I
simply don't understand how you think the world works. Do you want to see
proof that every piece of open-source software is ready to be used? That's
ridiculous. Open-source software is being developed. People think
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Paul Gideon Dann pdgid...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 23 Aug 2012 21:47:14 Norbert Zeh wrote:
I tried to keep my mouth shut but can't resist to reply here because I
simply don't understand how you think the world works. Do you want to see
proof that every
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Not really, the Justice system fails perhaps more than it works. All of
these responses are actually just diluting and ignoring the points he
has raised and responding to responses of an inflammatory kind. The 14%
Despite that, no serious (IMHO) bugs or architectural issues have been
found (there has of course been plenty of irrelevant complaints, but
those I ignore).
http://osvdb.org/search?search%5Bvuln_title%5D=systemdsearch%5Btext_type%5D=alltext
Two local root exploits this year. So if your
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 01tto...@gmail.com wrote:
is there any free secondary dns provider that supports zone transfer?
BTW: well, this is kind of off topic as it hasn't to do with arch, but help
is needed... :P
thanks in advance!
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On Aug 24, 2012 8:20 AM, Menachem Moystoviz moyst...@g.jct.ac.il wrote:
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 01tto...@gmail.com
wrote:
is there any free secondary dns provider that supports zone transfer?
BTW: well, this is kind of off topic as it hasn't to do with arch, but
help
ok, thank you! I will check and I'll report back.
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:38 PM, szu-han chen sjc...@sjchen.com wrote:
On Aug 24, 2012 8:20 AM,
On Aug 24, 2012 3:09 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
http://osvdb.org/search?search%5Bvuln_title%5D=systemdsearch%5Btext_type%5D=alltext
Two local root exploits this year. So if your browser has a bug, systemd
would have allowed priveledge escalation
Notice that these bugs
Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote:
The 23/08/12, Ike Devolder wrote:
No there is no package providing those files.
why ?
if arch would provide you with defaults every time the defaults get updated
you would get *.pacnew files in
http://osvdb.org/search?search%5Bvuln_title%5D=systemdsearch%5Btext_type%5D=alltext
Two local root exploits this year. So if your browser has a bug, systemd
would have allowed priveledge escalation
Notice that these bugs were in logind (the console kit replacement) and not
in the
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Norbert Zeh n...@cs.dal.ca wrote:
Felipe Contreras [2012.08.23 2214 +0200]:
Notice that I said probably. Again, I don't *need* to provide any
evidence because I'm not making the claim that systemd has problems,
or that it's not ready, I am simply asking for
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Stephen E. Baker
baker.stephe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23/08/2012 4:14 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
[snip]
Is systemd ready? Where is the evidence?
https://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics shows that about 14% of
arch users who are using pkgstat have
Q: Is systemd ready? A: We don't know.
It's more ready than sysvinit or the fragile shell scripts which lack
basic features.
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On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 04:48:01PM -0700, Patrick Murphy wrote:
Could you give me a brief explanation as to why init scripts are better?
They really aren't. The best argument one can make in their favor
is that they're already debugged and stable. systemd, as a new
thing, will inevitably go
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:03:44PM -0300, Denis A. Alto?? Falqueto wrote:
You know that all this jibber-jabber could be easily avoided if you
just asked for help or opened bug reports, don't you? You know, just
like when polite peopple try to solve their own problems and, when
nothing else
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:13:33AM +0200, Kwpolska wrote:
Huh? I've never seen any complaints about udev before you.
udev is kinda crufty. And it really doesn't belong inside
the same monolithic program that manages startup and file-
system mounting.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:34:28AM -0400, Brandon Watkins wrote:
Can we then agree then that you don't *know* if systemd is stable
enough to be used (in general, not only by you)?
Felipe Contreras
Umm, the fact thats its been the default init system in several popular
distros already?
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 09:23:33PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:
So it's only needs twice the time with only on third of the ticks? Well
that is awesome... Yeah to systemd!
systemd is much more complicated, and requires many more tricks.
Please remember: I hate systemd.
I have seen
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 03:31:19PM -0400, Brandon Watkins wrote:
You are being pedantic. A 2 second difference is negligible, and certainly
not the huge issue you are making it out to be.
It's not negligible in computing terms. It can matter but plan A
is usually for your boot time to be
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:12:05PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I've been wondering what the best term for 'corporate' or 'enterprise'
software like exchange is where they change your nappies for you but
also offer you razor wire to hang yourself with by giving you IE to
browse the web on the
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 04:45:34PM +0200, Jakob Herrmann wrote:
So which components (obviously used by the majority of Arch users) do
currently have or will soon have hardcoded! dependencies to systemd?
udev.
Upstream, Gnome has considered it.
2012/8/25 Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Stephen E. Baker
baker.stephe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23/08/2012 4:14 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
[snip]
Is systemd ready? Where is the evidence?
https://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics shows
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
No, I never said anything like that. All I said is [...]
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*yaaawn* ...
... are we done? you guys are really boring me to death here --
interest level is pitifully
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