[arch-general] xdm and awesomewm incompatibilty

2013-09-28 Thread ashwin
Hi, I see that xdm and awesome wm dont go well together. It used to work well before. I see after recent package update. awesome wm crashes often. After killing xdm, it is back normal again. Has anyone else experienced this ? If xdm is buggy, then can someone suggest a good login manager for

[arch-general] Fwd: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch

2013-09-28 Thread Delcypher
Hi, Apparently I cannot post to arch-dev-public so I'm posting this here. This is a proposal for making separate packages for static libraries (with a patch for Boost C++ libraries as an example). Please see below... -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Liew

Re: [arch-general] xdm and awesomewm incompatibilty

2013-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 16:40 +, ashwin wrote: What i am looking for is just the login manager and its dependecies and not the entire DE. $ pacman -Qi lightdm | grep Depe Depends On : libxklavier polkit systemd Installed here, it might have it's weak points too, but since I didn't drop

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch

2013-09-28 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2013-09-28 15:26:56 +0100] Delcypher: For popular packages that have can build static libraries and shared libraries, build both but put the static libraries into their own *-staticlibs package and the *-libs packages should contain only shared libraries. For example for boost you would have

Re: [arch-general] xdm and awesomewm incompatibilty

2013-09-28 Thread Szymon Szydełko
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 6:40 PM, ashwin ashwin@gmail.com wrote: What i am looking for is just the login manager and its dependecies and not the entire DE. I assume kdm does the same thing. If you can cope with GTK+3 being pulled, try LightDM

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch

2013-09-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.09.2013 16:26, schrieb Delcypher: I really don't think that completely removing static libraries from the repositories is the correct approach because it I believe the choice of whether or not to have static libraries on your system should be down to the user and not the distro This has

Re: [arch-general] xdm and awesomewm incompatibilty

2013-09-28 Thread Jakub Klinkovský
On 28.09.13 at 20:12, Szymon Szydełko wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 6:40 PM, ashwin ashwin@gmail.com wrote: What i am looking for is just the login manager and its dependecies and not the entire DE. I assume kdm does the same thing. If you can cope with GTK+3 being pulled,

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch

2013-09-28 Thread Dan Liew
On 28/09/13 19:27, Gaetan Bisson wrote: [2013-09-28 15:26:56 +0100] Delcypher: I am strongly against this proposal. For many reasons, including those in the page Allan pointed to, dynamic libraries should be the default on Arch systems, and they should be the only supported type of library.

Re: [arch-general] xdm and awesomewm incompatibilty

2013-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 21:05 +0200, Jakub Klinkovský wrote: On 28.09.13 at 20:12, Szymon Szydełko wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 6:40 PM, ashwin ashwin@gmail.com wrote: What i am looking for is just the login manager and its dependecies and not the entire DE. I assume kdm does

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch

2013-09-28 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2013-09-28 22:25:55 +0100] Dan Liew: On 28/09/13 19:27, Gaetan Bisson wrote: [2013-09-28 15:26:56 +0100] Delcypher: I am strongly against this proposal. For many reasons, including those in the page Allan pointed to, dynamic libraries should be the default on Arch systems, and they

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch

2013-09-28 Thread Dan Liew
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/09/13 19:32, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 28.09.2013 16:26, schrieb Delcypher: I really don't think that completely removing static libraries from the repositories is the correct approach because it I believe the choice of whether or not to have

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch

2013-09-28 Thread Bardur Arantsson
On 2013-09-28 23:50, Dan Liew wrote: [1] 11.4.2. LLVM is a Collection of Libraries http://www.aosabook.org/en/llvm.html My last reply was flippant. Apologies for that. However, I don't see any mention of why static libraries should supposedly be better for LLVM at the above URL. Can you

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch

2013-09-28 Thread Bardur Arantsson
On 2013-09-28 23:50, Dan Liew wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/09/13 19:32, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 28.09.2013 16:26, schrieb Delcypher: I really don't think that completely removing static libraries from the repositories is the correct approach because it I

[arch-general] Problem bringing up bridge interface with netctl

2013-09-28 Thread Michael Dahlberg
I recently upgraded to systemd-207 and I'm having some problems using netctl to bring up a bridged interface during the system boot. The problem is that systemd will try and bring the bridged interface up before bringing up the actual network interface that is included in the bridge and, as a