Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 23:53:38 +0600 Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > On 2 June 2014 18:56, Yamakaky wrote: > > > >> I believe when the decision was made it was simply based on the fact > >> that being able to share is worth more for the community than local > >> optimization. > > > > PKGBUILDs and packa

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 2 June 2014 18:56, Yamakaky wrote: > >> I believe when the decision was made it was simply based on the fact >> that being able to share is worth more for the community than local >> optimization. > > PKGBUILDs and packages from repositories have to be portable, but it's > not a requirement for

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Maarten de Vries
On 2 June 2014 14:56, Yamakaky wrote: > > PKGBUILDs and packages from repositories have to be portable, but it's > not a requirement for self-build AUR packages. Who shares binary > packages from AUR ? I do, in fact. I have a couple of machines, and not all of them have the same processing powe

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Nowaker
user has an ageing AMD FX system and wants to replace that with an intel core i7 system. they don't feel like re-installing, so just transfer the harddrive to the intel system. if they used -march=native everything they build on the AMD FX system will need to be rebuild on the core i7 . Well, t

Re: [arch-general] [Classroom] new class: A First Look at the Linux Kernel - Saturday, May 31 at 16:00 UTC

2014-06-02 Thread fsckd
Logs for jy2wong's class "A First Look at the Linux Kernel" are available: https://archwomen.org/media/project_classroom/classlogs/2014-05-31-a_first_look_at_the_linux_kernel.txt The class notes are also available: https://archwomen.org/media/project_classroom/lessons/2014-05-31-a_first_look_at_t

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Martti Kühne
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Yamakaky wrote: > Grouped answer (french guy here, be indulgent ^^) : > Sure. [...] > >> Meanwhile you didn't make clear why don't you side with OP after >> justifying his point? > Google it. OP is the "Original Poster". Also known as "You". > > >> anyone rebuil

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Yamakaky
Grouped answer (french guy here, be indulgent ^^) : Cross platform compilation is a requirement for the most important of makepkg's users, namely our package maintainers... I think TU know how to configure makepkg for theirs binary packages to be portables. user has an ageing AMD FX system a

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Martti Kühne
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > > Generating efficient code for the local machine by default makes sense > and doesn't get in the way of building truly portable packages with > devtools. However, I'm sure there are users who build packages without > devtools and then expect i

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Daniel Micay
On 02/06/14 07:24 AM, Martti Kühne wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: >> >> The official packages are built in a clean container with the makepkg >> configuration files in the devtools package. In the past, portability >> issue would have been a factor. I do think the sta

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Martti Kühne
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > > The official packages are built in a clean container with the makepkg > configuration files in the devtools package. In the past, portability > issue would have been a factor. I do think the status quo of having it > match the devtools flags

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Daniel Micay
On 02/06/14 06:58 AM, Martti Kühne wrote: > On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Yamakaky wrote: >> Hi >> >> I just discovered the gcc option march=native. It enables all the >> local-supported optimizations, without downsides except the non-portability >> of the binaries. Is there a reason why it isn'

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 1 June 2014 18:03, Yamakaky wrote: > Hi > > I just discovered the gcc option march=native. It enables all the > local-supported optimizations, without downsides except the non-portability > of the binaries. Is there a reason why it isn't enabled by default, as cross > platform compilation isn't

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread Martti Kühne
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Yamakaky wrote: > Hi > > I just discovered the gcc option march=native. It enables all the > local-supported optimizations, without downsides except the non-portability > of the binaries. Is there a reason why it isn't enabled by default, as cross > platform compila

Re: [arch-general] makepkg.conf CFLAGS

2014-06-02 Thread LoneVVolf
On 01-06-14 14:03, Yamakaky wrote: Hi I just discovered the gcc option march=native. It enables all the local-supported optimizations, without downsides except the non-portability of the binaries. Is there a reason why it isn't enabled by default, as cross platform compilation isn't used by m