Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread John Ramsden via arch-general
Actually, you can easily create an arch ISO with ZFS embedded into it. It's what I do, and it takes about five minutes to create. https://ramsdenj.com/2016/06/23/arch-linux-on-zfs-part-1-embed-zfs-in-archiso.html -- John Ramsden On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, at 8:33 PM, Eli Schwartz via

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/12/2018 11:07 PM, John Ramsden via arch-general wrote: > For anyone not happy with dkms, the archzfs repo [1] offers great > support for ZFS in binary form, and I've been using it for a few > years now with no problems. The most important part of using zfs is installing it. Especially

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread John Ramsden via arch-general
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > On 3/12/18, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > What's wrong with btrfs? Yeah, I know it is not marked "stable", but this > is just a label. And people shying away from it doesn't help in

Re: [arch-general] High CPU on one core, but unable to find process responsible

2018-03-12 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 03/12/2018 09:56 PM, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: Any BIOS updates or kernel updates recently (4.15.8)? Try with 3.16 or 4.9 or another old lts kernel from archive.archlinux.org just for testing (not production). It's more likely that the kernel regressed rather than IRQ issues

Re: [arch-general] High CPU on one core, but unable to find process responsible

2018-03-12 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 3/13/18, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > So if this issue is irq-based, I guess that means some piece of hardware > is faulty or failing. Any idea how I might go about pinning down which > one? Would there be info in the kernel log about this? Or something > that I can look

Re: [arch-general] High CPU on one core, but unable to find process responsible

2018-03-12 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 03/12/2018 05:13 AM, Jiachen Yang via arch-general wrote: On 2018年03月12日 11:19, David Rosenstrauch wrote: My server's been exhibiting some very strange behavior lately.  Every couple of days I run into a situation where one core (core #0) on the quad core CPU starts continuously using

Re: [arch-general] High CPU on one core, but unable to find process responsible

2018-03-12 Thread David C. Rankin
On 03/11/2018 09:19 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > My server's been exhibiting some very strange behavior lately.  Every couple > of days I run into a situation where one core (core #0) on the quad core CPU > starts continuously using around 34% of CPU, but I'm not able to see (using > htop) any

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Leonid Isaev via arch-general
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:17:21PM +, Carsten Mattner wrote: > On 3/12/18, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > > What's wrong with btrfs? Yeah, I know it is not marked "stable", but this > > is just a label. And people shying away from it doesn't help in

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
Sorry for letting gmail butcher wrapping/breaks. Someone at Google needs to be demoted for that anti-feature. I should remember to never edit in gmail's text box but use my normal editor as usual.

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
It almost looks like filesystem development doesn't fit Linux kernel development style of iterating constantly and evolving with time. btrfs has had the same time as zfs had in-house at Oracle before it was declared publicly stable, and there are still buggy/unfinished corners. If you look at

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 3/12/18, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:24:37PM +, Carsten Mattner via arch-general > wrote: >> On 3/12/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general >> wrote: >> > On 03/11/2018 10:00 PM, Carsten Mattner via

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/12/2018 06:57 PM, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: >> I'll stay away from it, thanks. I saw that Alpine Linux has good ZFS >> support, but I didn't do anything serious with it. When it comes to >> filesystems, I'm conservative, EXT4 and XFS on Linux. It's a pity >> there's no modern

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Leonid Isaev via arch-general
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:24:37PM +, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > On 3/12/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > > On 03/11/2018 10:00 PM, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > >> I'm happy to hear that. My rationale is based on past

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 3/12/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > On 03/11/2018 10:00 PM, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: >> I'm happy to hear that. My rationale is based on past observations >> of needlessly heated arguments and ZFS, due to its license splitting >> the Linux

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/11/2018 10:00 PM, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > I'm happy to hear that. My rationale is based on past observations > of needlessly heated arguments and ZFS, due to its license splitting > the Linux community in half, appearing to be perfect fuel for such > a thread. > > Thanks

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread David C. Rankin
On 03/11/2018 08:03 PM, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > Hi David, > > so in the end you were able to boot off usb, right? > > Also, the nightmare you had to work through can be avoided on servers > where you run illumos or FreeBSD by way of ZFS boot environments (BE). > Basically, it's

Re: [arch-general] High CPU on one core, but unable to find process responsible

2018-03-12 Thread Jiachen Yang via arch-general
On 2018年03月12日 11:19, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > My server's been exhibiting some very strange behavior lately.  Every > couple of days I run into a situation where one core (core #0) on the > quad core CPU starts continuously using around 34% of CPU, but I'm not > able to see (using htop) any