Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread ProgAndy
Am 18.09.18 um 00:23 schrieb Carsten Mattner via arch-general: > Hope you don't mind me hijacking the thread to ask if you've ever > extracted an adoptopenjdk tarball and were able to use it for running > a Swing GUI. The jdk10-openjdk (not bin, didn't try aur) package in arch > works, but

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Jason Yamada-Hanff via arch-general
A non-Arch specific alternative would be to use sdkman: https://sdkman.io/ , which is a generic version/environment manager for JVM-related packages. I've used it when I wanted to install some SDKs that wouldn't clobber the system-installed ones. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 9:34 AM Peter Nabbefeld

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 9/17/18, Guus Snijders via arch-general wrote: > As an alternative : you could just extract (unpack) the pkg file to a > versioned directory in your $home and use those for testing. Hope you don't mind me hijacking the thread to ask if you've ever extracted an adoptopenjdk tarball and were

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Guus Snijders via arch-general
Op ma 17 sep. 2018 18:34 schreef Peter Nabbefeld : > > > [...] > > Yes and No. These tools allow switching the active JVM. In my case that > would be overkill, I don't need that. I only need the installed software > to be reachable from NetBeans IDE. I'm usually fine running my software > on the

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Levente Polyak via arch-general
On 9/17/18 6:27 PM, Doug Newgard via arch-general wrote: > > Going forward with the new release policies, would it be better to just have > an > openjdk/openjre package that's always the latest version, then versioned > packages for the lts releases, such as they are? > This is exactly what

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Andy Pieters
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 6:34 PM Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > > > > Am 17.09.18 um 17:48 schrieb Carsten Mattner via arch-general: > > On 9/17/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general > > wrote: > > > >> So essentially what you really want is a way for pacman to remember your > >> choice. That would

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Peter Nabbefeld
Am 17.09.18 um 17:48 schrieb Carsten Mattner via arch-general: On 9/17/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: So essentially what you really want is a way for pacman to remember your choice. That would require pacman modify its configuration which is something that goes against the

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Peter Nabbefeld
Am 17.09.18 um 16:21 schrieb Eli Schwartz via arch-general: On September 17, 2018 10:06:04 AM EDT, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: You will get prompted again and again on every pacman -Su "to see if you're finally ready to do the replacement". That's what I don't want - if I accidently don't

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Doug Newgard via arch-general
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 18:20:49 +0200 Guillaume ALAUX via arch-general wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:48 PM Carsten Mattner via arch-general > wrote: > > > > On 9/17/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general > > wrote: > > > > > So essentially what you really want is a way for pacman to remember

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread ProgAndy
Am 17.09.18 um 18:20 schrieb Guillaume ALAUX via arch-general: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:48 PM Carsten Mattner via arch-general > wrote: >> On 9/17/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >> >>> So essentially what you really want is a way for pacman to remember your >>> choice. That would

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Guillaume ALAUX via arch-general
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:48 PM Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > > On 9/17/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > > > So essentially what you really want is a way for pacman to remember your > > choice. That would require pacman modify its configuration which is > > something that

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 9/17/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > So essentially what you really want is a way for pacman to remember your > choice. That would require pacman modify its configuration which is > something that goes against the current architecture... What would happen > instead is pacman.conf

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On September 17, 2018 10:06:04 AM EDT, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: >> You will get prompted again and again on every pacman -Su "to see if >> you're finally ready to do the replacement". >> >That's what I don't want - if I accidently don't type the "n" for some >reason, the JDK will be raplaced.

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Peter Nabbefeld
Am 17.09.18 um 15:58 schrieb Eli Schwartz via arch-general: On 9/17/18 7:50 AM, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: Sorry, I accidently sent my earlier response to Olli privately. So one question has been lost: Probably, pacman could be extended with an option to change the update strategy from replace

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 9/17/18 7:50 AM, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > Sorry, I accidently sent my earlier response to Olli privately. So one > question has been lost: > > Probably, pacman could be extended with an option to change the update > strategy from replace to add? > > This would make it a lot easier than

[arch-general] Lxde taskbar freezing

2018-09-17 Thread David Rosenstrauch
It seems like some recent package installation or upgrade has been breaking my Lxde desktop. The taskbar at the bottom of the screen keeps freezing up periodically - doesn't repaint (except for non-lxde icons like network manager applet), doesn't respond to mouse clicks, etc. Then after a few

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Peter Nabbefeld
Am 17.09.18 um 12:42 schrieb Luke English: On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:34:54PM +0200, Guus Snijders via arch-general wrote: Op ma 17 sep. 2018 12:04 schreef Olli : On 17.09.18 09:31, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: There has ever been an EOL for older JDKs. But sometimes You're bound to a specific

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Luke English
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:34:54PM +0200, Guus Snijders via arch-general wrote: > Op ma 17 sep. 2018 12:04 schreef Olli : > > > On 17.09.18 09:31, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > > > There has ever been an EOL for older JDKs. But sometimes You're bound > > > to a specific JDK version in Your working

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Guus Snijders via arch-general
Op ma 17 sep. 2018 12:04 schreef Olli : > On 17.09.18 09:31, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > > There has ever been an EOL for older JDKs. But sometimes You're bound > > to a specific JDK version in Your working environment, so IMO always > > replacing is a bad strategy. The problem is, in larger

Re: [arch-general] How to have multiple JDKs parallel?

2018-09-17 Thread Olli
On 17.09.18 09:31, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > There has ever been an EOL for older JDKs. But sometimes You're bound > to a specific JDK version in Your working environment, so IMO always > replacing is a bad strategy. The problem is, in larger companies it > sometimes takes some weeks or even months