Re: [arch-general] Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders

2010-08-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron, did you not do something about this the last time? Yeah, it's a new address this time. I blocked that one too...

Re: [arch-general] Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders

2010-08-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM, J. W. Birdsong jwbirds...@jwbirdsong.homelinux.com wrote: On 08/11/10 at 05:05am, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: snip /snip Again??  Really?? I have a headache. Why isn't Fidel Castro helping me??

Re: [arch-general] Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders

2010-08-10 Thread Aaron Griffin
Hrm, I've seen this before. It's either really in depth spam or some crazy dude. He's blocked now. No worries. Nothing to see here, people. Move along.

Re: [arch-general] Bashification of initscripts for moderate speedup

2010-06-29 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Tue 29 Jun 2010 09:27 -0500, Dan McGee wrote: Which is change the modelines? No thanks. http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Bash_Coding_Style Neat. Where does the 132 columns come from? Back in the day

Re: [arch-general] Licensing of Arch Wiki content

2010-06-29 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Ananda Samaddar ana...@samaddar.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:19:09 +0200 Linas linas...@ymail.com wrote: I assume this ask to have GFDL CC-BY-SA content coexist at the wiki. The

Re: [arch-general] Open Letter (Plea for Medical/Help Assistance) to World Leaders

2010-06-25 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 25/06/10 18:28, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: On 06/15/2010 09:35 PM, Gaurish Sharma wrote: Spam? No, this is NOT a spam. It is a genuine open letter plea for medical help/assistance to world leaders. I

Re: [arch-general] This is the arch-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 06:56, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: [it is rude not to change subject lines when going off-topic...] On 27/05/10 20:13, Joerg Schilling wrote: Blah, blah, blah paraphrased

Re: [arch-general] This is the arch-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
, he should not be only one. +100 and if you ban someone than you have to ban me because i'm the startpoint of this underthread ... a little cue in this case would be helpfull.-) To be clear: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to give

Re: [arch-general] This is the arch-general list - Was Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Attila vodoo0...@sonnenkinder.org wrote: At Donnerstag, 27. Mai 2010 16:25 Gaurish Sharma wrote

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: I do not speak for the other Arch developers, but the reason why I will not officially package cdrtools for Arch is you.  My impression of you is that you are very, very annoying and irritating.  If there was a bug report

Re: [arch-general] Script to check monitor blank state

2010-05-24 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Markus mar...@hackfleischeis.de wrote: Hello everyone, i would like to write a little script, that suspends my computer if a few circumstances are met. One should be, that my screen should be blanked. I already did a google search on this, but i only found

Re: [arch-general] BASH no longer does 'for i in $(ls); do ls $i; done'??

2010-05-18 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Sergey Manucharian ingeniw...@gmail.com wrote: Excerpts from Linas's message of Tue, 18 May 2010 22:31 +0200: David C. Rankin wrote: Guys,     I'm usually quite good at one-liners, but my simple ones no longer work in Arch. Same cli works fine in suse.

Re: [arch-general] vim runtime woes

2010-05-14 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jan Steffens jan.steff...@gmail.com wrote: The vim runtime that can be retrieved via rsync is outdated. Some of the patches modify the runtime, and some of these changes (e.g. 394) are lost when the runtime is overwritten with the runtime from rsync. Not

Re: [arch-general] vim runtime woes

2010-05-14 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jan Steffens jan.steff...@gmail.com wrote: The vim runtime that can be retrieved via rsync is outdated. Some of the patches modify the runtime, and some of these changes (e.g. 394

Re: [arch-general] Boot iso with grub2

2010-03-31 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Christopher Rogers slaxemula...@gmail.com wrote: There has been a request for a findiso boot option so you can boot the iso with grub2 on a usb stick. I have this feature in my archiso-live and it works very well. Here is some code i have for it: _mnt_iso()

Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers

2010-03-18 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Gaurish Sharma cont...@gaurishsharma.com wrote: On Thursday 18 Mar 2010 10:04:58 pm Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Hi, Do you know some dedicated server / VPS provider (unmanaged), who supports Arch Linux, with good service and reasonable rates ? Hi, you the

Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers

2010-03-18 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 18.03.2010 18:00, schrieb Aaron Griffin: or you can try Linode  which is my personnel fav provider for Unmanaged VPS Additionally, Slicehost is still good, but I think spec-wise, the above 3 are better Linode

Re: [arch-general] Ignoring packages and piecemeal updates

2010-03-17 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Xavier Chantry chantry.xav...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Denis Kobozev d.v.kobo...@gmail.com wrote: And a more general question: is it even theoretically possible to have a bleeding edge distro with piecemeal updates and with no required

Re: [arch-general] Ignoring packages and piecemeal updates

2010-03-17 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Denis Kobozev d.v.kobo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Isaac Dupree m...@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org wrote: NixOS does better (at least at the theoretical stuff, though it has fewer users..it was born in academia..Basically it is

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....

2010-03-16 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Jared Casper jaredcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: I don't think we need any security team for Arch. New

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....

2010-03-16 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 13:24, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: Let this thread not be just another Will be nice one. Pacman devs, please start implementing these package verification things. And you're

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
There is already an arch-general thread about this topic. This one was intended to gauge the opinions of the _developers_ (hence the reason it was on the dev list). I am all for keeping things open, but polluting things with arguments from outside is just making this harder. And now this

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....

2010-03-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.de wrote: Am Montag, 15. März 2010 20:54:03 schrieb Ananda Samaddar: The reason I'm asking is I want to know to whom I address my proposals when they are finished. Simple: File a bug report or feature request at

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-14 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:58:34 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com: So you wanted to add a comment totally unrelated to the bug itself to the bug? Isn't that polluting the bug report? What happened here

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-14 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:58:34 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com: So you wanted to add a comment totally unrelated to the bug itself to the bug? Isn't that polluting the bug report? What happened here

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:58:12 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com: This sounds like throwing technology at a problem that basically boils down to a communication issue. Without specific examples

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Damien Churchill dam...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 March 2010 13:19, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:57:46 -0600 Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote:

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 12.03.2010 16:37, schrieb Aaron Griffin: Using the core installing then just upgrading kernel26 and kernel26-firmware to 2.6.33 worked just in case anyone was wondering. Got networking up finally :) Yeah, I

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Fri 12 Mar 2010 13:28 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: But just closing a bug should not be done. There's usually a reason why a bug is reported even if

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski gdam...@gmail.com wrote: Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. Actually it is doable, it's a configuration option per project. Check http://bugs.archlinux.org/pm/proj1/prefs Well damn, looks like I was looking too high up.

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski gdam...@gmail.com wrote: More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the developers assuming malicious users up-front? Not at all. It is statistics. For a long

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 12.03.2010 20:35, schrieb Aaron Griffin: Well it *is* one command from a git checkout cd install-iso make Let's make that 2: # pacman -S archiso # archiso-build-cd --arch i686 --format iso This is just too

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: So closing a bug becomes 1) remove yourself from assignees, 2) remove from notification, 3) close bug. This is what worries me the most. If comments on old bugs are allowed, this will become the norm.

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Isaac Dupree m...@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org wrote: On 03/12/10 10:34, Aaron Griffin wrote: More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the developers - give reasons why the bug

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Dimitrios Apostolou ji...@gmx.net wrote: My primary complaint against flyspray is that it doesn't allow comments to be added after the bug is closed. The only way is by doing a request to reopen the bug, and even in that case your comment is not added to the

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
2010/3/11 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com: On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 22:49 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:59:07 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com: Commenting on bugs after they are closed will just annoy the developer. If you have an issue with the fix

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs = git ?

2010-03-09 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:04:50 -0600 Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with everyone else that's said it. This comes up often enough but no one ever has a good workflow that works. I have seen nothing

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs = git ?

2010-03-08 Thread Aaron Griffin
I agree with everyone else that's said it. This comes up often enough but no one ever has a good workflow that works. I have seen nothing proposed in this thread that is good. The ONLY thing gained is oh neat, it's in git. We lose quite a bit, especially in the branch-ing department. It seems

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2010-03-05 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Denis Kobozev d.v.kobo...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting shows its downside only when you recently joined a mailing list, for example - you start receiving emails from threads that have been going for a long time and you have no idea what people are discussing.

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2010-03-04 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Patrick Burroughs celticmad...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 23:31, Juan Diego juantas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listmates, is there any special reason of why top-posting is a bad thing? To be clichéd... A: Because it messes up the order in which

Re: [arch-general] [patch] AIF, partition table compatibility with grub2.

2010-02-24 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:18:28 +0100 Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 23:21 +0100, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Just poked around with grub2 and kvm, you really need the extra space, else it

Re: [arch-general] Planet Arch Linux atom feed.

2010-02-20 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:07 PM, gt codere...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, if any of you are subscribed to planet arch, then you must have noticed a problem with some of the feeds. The problem is, the summary of the feed displays fine, but when i open the feed, it shows the xml of the feed instead

Re: [arch-general] Recent upgrade of vimgvim generates assertion errors in console

2010-02-19 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 08:00, LI Ye leeyee@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Just paste my post from forum. Have you guys encountered this issue after recent upgrades of vim gvim: ** (gvim:17054): CRITICAL **:

Re: [arch-general] [patch] AIF, discover repos on iso.

2010-02-19 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Mark Pustjens pustj...@dds.nl wrote: Hi List, The attached patch fixes a TODO in lib-pacman of aif. Instead of hardcoding that `core' is always available locally and falling back to net for others, it now checks /src/ for repos. It assumes repos are stored

Re: [arch-general] pacman.conf: can I use wildcards?

2010-02-18 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Pierre Chapuis catw...@archlinux.us wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:34:09 -0600, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: No, we don't support globbing in these options. Question to the list- does it make sense to do so? Yes, but it would also be nice

Re: [arch-general] pacman.conf: can I use wildcards?

2010-02-17 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:51 PM, clemens fischer ino-n...@spotteswoode.dnsalias.org wrote: I could not find any decisive answer in either the man page or on the web.  Here's my question:  in etc/pacman.conf, can I use entries

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Let's agree on a common coding style

2010-02-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/02/2010 08:57 μμ, Thomas Bächler wrote: Never use `...`, always $(...), always use the braces for variable names and always quote paths that contain variables. I do not agree with your view that braces should

[arch-general] Problems with Xorg

2010-02-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
Abadago dreaming about his first time A little story, how I dream about my first experiences with a dog. Feedback is welcome. Sorry if my English is not perfect, but I'm not a native speaker. Therefore sometimes I'm missing the right words. I turn left into the small parking area in the

Re: [arch-general] Problems with Xorg

2010-02-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: WTF is this shit?

Re: [arch-general] Problems with Xorg

2010-02-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
Am Montag, 15. Februar 2010 16:53:14 schrieb Aaron Griffin: WTF is this shit? You should go see a doctor; or use psf, dkim etc. ;-) PS: No, that wasn't me. -- Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre

Re: [arch-general] Problems with Xorg

2010-02-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: Am Montag, 15. Februar 2010 16:53:14 schrieb Aaron Griffin: WTF is this shit? You should go see a doctor; or use psf, dkim etc. ;-) PS: No, that wasn't me. -- Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre

Re: [arch-general] Message :5

2010-02-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: F**K, not one more ! Sigh. Banned that one

Re: [arch-general] Unable to upgrade

2010-02-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
2010/2/11 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com: On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 18:54 +0100, Andrea Scarpino wrote: On Thursday 11 February 2010 18:50:46 Ionut Biru wrote: fire up a browser and read the news related to KDE 4.4. or subscribe to arch-announce ;) Isn't [arch-announce] dead for the longest time?

Re: [arch-general] pacman overwriting files (was Re: dcron 4.2)

2010-02-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Dimitrios Apostolou ji...@gmx.net wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 10.02.2010 21:30, schrieb Dimitrios Apostolou: Guys that thing bit me again: During the big libpng upgrade initscripts package got upgraded too and

Re: [arch-general] pacman overwriting files (was Re: dcron 4.2)

2010-02-10 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Dimitrios Apostolou ji...@gmx.net wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 13.01.2010 00:34, schrieb Dimitrios Apostolou: Since I've been bitten by this, how can I know

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:45 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 05:37:31PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: make install does it Called by pacman, I suppose. Anyway this is irrelevant. No. pacman does not build packages. It installs them

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Aaron Griffin
at 12:04 AM, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: On 02/09/2010 03:23 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: I just want to shoot a welcome message to the newest member of the team: Dan Griffiths (Ghost1227). Welcome aboard! Very great news! Congratulations :) -- Gerardo Exequiel

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-08 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:36 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 04:19:04PM -0500, Ray Kohler wrote: It is *required* to do only complete system updates when using Arch. Partial updates are not supported, *by design*. If that is true, which I refuse to believe, it means

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-08 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:29 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:47:47PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: When I attempt to install app-baz, which pulls in libfoo 2.0, how do you expect to resolve all the conflicts that result from keeping libfoo 1.0 on the system

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-08 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 12:36:55AM +0200, Ionut Biru wrote: you are focusing only on .so which is different but this schema will work only if the package is split in lib, -dev, whatever as now, the headers will conflict since it

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-08 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 05:17:15PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM,  f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 12:36:55AM +0200, Ionut Biru wrote: you are focusing only on .so which

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-08 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:39 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 05:37:19PM -0600, Muhammed Uluyol wrote: So *who* creates the symlink from libfoo.so - libfoo.so.1.2.3 ? It's either pacman or ldconfig called by pacman. Unless you believe in little gremlins doing it

Re: [arch-general] pacman message: too much happens:: ...

2010-02-07 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 2:32 PM, clemens fischer ino-n...@spotteswoode.dnsalias.org wrote: Daenyth Blank wrote: On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 18:07, clemens fischer ino-n...@spotteswoode.dnsalias.org wrote: Sorry.  It's an fcrontab entry:  { pacman --noprogressbar -Sy pacman --noprogressbar -Qu ||

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and security - it needs some work

2010-02-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01, Ananda Samaddar ananda.samad...@vfemail.net wrote: I really like Arch. I switched about a year ago after being a Debian user for nine years.  There is something that troubles me though

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 15:45 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Just to make it clear: There is not a single claim from a lawyer that confirms the claims from the hostile downstram packager. Looking through the thread on

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Brendan Long kori...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/27/2010 11:19 AM, Xavier Chantry wrote: Joerg on the other hand seems to care a lot about the inclusion of his software in the official Arch repository. Actually, I really wonder like pyther : What is in this for

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Kitty seca...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if nothing else, I've learned a couple of things from this thread: 1) FUD works, especially if the FUDer is with a notable distro. 2) AUR is my friend. Well, if nothing else, I've learned that having patience is not common

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-25 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: It would be nice if you updated your homepage (which would need a new look too, it reminds me of the old days when using the internet was annoying due to

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-25 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: Getting this actual legal review made public would be a huge step not only in trust, but also in closing this issue once and for all. Might I ask WHY

Re: [arch-general] alsa-tools

2010-01-25 Thread Aaron Griffin
2010/1/25 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com: On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 22:50 +0100, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: Is there any good reason why alsa-tools is not available from core or extra and only (in bits and pieces) from AUR ? Tools like envy24ctl or hdspmixer are really not an option when you use

Re: [arch-general] Two tiny patches for archweb_dev's ToDo lists

2010-01-23 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.com wrote: I tested both patches locally and they appear to work. They are really tiny and straightforward so they should be safe to apply to the live dev site with little/no further testing. (I'm not sure who is maintaining

Re: [arch-general] initramfs: execute own script

2010-01-23 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: On 01/23/2010 08:01 AM, Allan McRae wrote: On 23/01/10 20:39, Alexander Duscheleit wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:25:16 -0600 Aaron Griffinaaronmgrif...@gmail.com  wrote: Did you mean ulibc? No, not

Re: [arch-general] initramfs: execute own script

2010-01-22 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Jim Pryor lists+arch-gene...@jimpryor.net wrote: Also, Arch is in the process of moving to a different initcpio system. It's not in any of the repos yet, but is in the pipeline. I haven't fully understood what the changes will be. I think they're getting rid

Re: [arch-general] initramfs: execute own script

2010-01-22 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Marco doma...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, we're killing off klibc, as it's largely unmaintained. We're switching to actually using glibc and busybox. Did you mean ulibc? No, not uClibc either. We're actually using glibc itself. Other distros do this as well, as it

Re: [arch-general] initramfs: execute own script

2010-01-22 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:11 AM, AlannY m...@alanny.ru wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:06:08AM -0500, Jim Pryor wrote: The best way I found to do this was to read the source for the /lib/initcpio/{init,init_functions} look at some of the pairs /lib/initcpio/{hooks,install}/foo for

Re: [arch-general] Startup scripts

2010-01-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Tom uebersh...@googlemail.com wrote: I was just forced to waste 10 min of my life because of arch-linux-way 'of doing things'. *rant mode on* Let me elaborate, for quite some time now, I've been unappeased by the way arch-linux handles the boot-up process,

Re: [arch-general] Startup scripts

2010-01-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Tom uebersh...@googlemail.com wrote: While it is a hair misleading, entering the root password at this point gets you to your system. No, it does not. You get dropped to a promt, I don't know which 'init-level' its on, but it generally does not get you to your

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Guus Snijders gsnijd...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote: [top posting trimming ] I think part of the problem is that some email clients like gmail webmail help persist the bad behaviour. They default with top posting replies and

Re: [arch-general] gmail and mailing list

2010-01-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mauro Santos registo.maill...@gmail.com wrote: P.S.: As a sidenote: Is it normal/intentional that I don't get my own mails back via the list? Or is this some weird GMail stuff? It's a gmail

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:17 PM, ludovic coues cou...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/12 Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Guus Snijders gsnijd...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote: [top posting trimming ] I think part of the problem

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] dcron 4.2

2010-01-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 13.01.2010 00:34, schrieb Dimitrios Apostolou: Since I've been bitten by this, how can I know if the file I modified is goint to be overwritten or not, *before* it actually happens? And even if it is, a .pacsave

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] dcron 4.2

2010-01-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Jim Pryor lists+arch-gene...@jimpryor.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:36:55AM -0500, Eric Bélanger wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Paul Mattal p...@mattal.com wrote: On 01/06/2010 01:09 AM, Paul Mattal wrote: I've just placed dcron 4.2 into

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-01-10 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Jeff Horelick jdho...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I have a suggestion to possibly make rebuilds a bit less painful (or non-existant). I think this is a good idea because it seems like right now, even before there was a new rebuild (ffmpeg/x264) in testing,

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jim Pryor lists+arch-gene...@jimpryor.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:52:45AM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote

Re: [arch-general] Replies on arch-general to dev emails (was: Cron)

2010-01-04 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Jim Pryor lists+arch-gene...@jimpryor.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 07:52:38AM -0600, Dan McGee wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: I again answer to arch-general due to write permissions. You realize you

Re: [arch-general] A universal Operating System API - why don't we have it?

2009-12-18 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Damien Churchill dam...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't this what POSIX was, albeit quite old now, but still a standard? POSIX and the SUSv3 (Single Unix Specification)

Re: [arch-general] Away from my PC - away from bugtracker.

2009-12-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: Hello all I will be away from now for about two or more weeks. I recently surfered an small irritation on my eyss, so I can not stay on my PC :( Leaving the bugtracker in their hands,  I hope to be with

Re: [arch-general] Making pacman check multiple repos

2009-12-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Brendan Long kori...@gmail.com wrote: For a little while I've been confused because pacman -Syu always said that everything was up to date (for a week or more). I talked to a friend at school and he had the same thing happening and I realized something might be

Re: [arch-general] wiki email confirmation won't confirm

2009-12-03 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Hey, i'm trying to sign up for the wiki, the confirmation link yields a page that says: Your e-mail address has now been confirmed. though in the account preferences remains: Your e-mail address is not yet

Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?

2009-12-03 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto denisfalqu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, fellow archers. I've created a new email with a new subject, so that who wants to ignore this completely, can do it easily. The recent past discussions about DBus got me thinking about an unanswered

Re: [arch-general] Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: Arvid Picciani wrote: Let me quote the arch way 2.0  which has a very nice condensed statement that does in fact support minimalism: Nice... so not the original Arch Way as defined by Judd that you keep referring to...  

Re: [arch-general] conclusion: Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Thomas Bächler wrote: I consider such statements an insult Sorry Thomas, my response was retarded. can you help me find another term i should use to denote the desktop idea, that is not offensive? In general, it is called

Re: [arch-general] conclusion: Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Aaron Griffin
2009/12/2 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 11:06 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Thomas Bächler wrote: I consider such statements an insult Sorry Thomas, my response was retarded. can you help me find

Re: [arch-general] custom repo guide?

2009-12-02 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Allan McRae wrote: Arvid Picciani wrote: Hey, can you link me to a manual on custom repositories? I couldn't find anything on the wiki. Specifically what needs to be done on the server side to maintain the package

Re: [arch-general] ArchLinux AntiDesktop (was: Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises)

2009-12-02 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: http://heresy.asgaartech.com/ Let me know if this solution works for everyone and/or if anyone is offended by anything on that       site or the fact that it exists and/or if anything should be added to it. Contributors

Re: [arch-general] ArchLinux AntiDesktop

2009-12-02 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org wrote: On 12/02/2009 08:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote: http://heresy.asgaartech.com/ Let me know if this solution works for everyone and/or if anyone is offended by anything on that site or the fact that it exists and/or if

Re: [arch-general] ArchLinux AntiDesktop

2009-12-02 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Aaron Griffin wrote: Would you mind throwing the PKGBUILDs you use up there as well? of course. they are available on the linked bitbucket project. http://bitbucket.org/aep/arch-antidesktop/src/tip/xorg-server/PKGBUILD Doh

Re: [arch-general] future of xorg-server and hal

2009-12-02 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM,  hollun...@gmx.at wrote: Anyway hal is dead : http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2009/Notes?highlight=%28hal%29|%28udev%29#head-754e4968dd043dcf2166dff61afd7d0d06c5 But since that

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Aaron Griffin wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/1 Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org: Arvid Picciani wrote: warning: cannot resolve hal=0.5.13, a dependency of xorg

Re: [arch-general] packages installed to /usr/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu and x86_64-unknown-uclibc -- broken??

2009-12-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 07:33:17 and regarding: Does pacman -Qo some of this weird files return anything? Flavio,        Strangely, yes: 13:49 alchemy:/usr/x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/bin for i in

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