Re: [arch-general] systemd, running scripts after suspend/hibernate

2012-10-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:12:24 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: The way I read it is that the sort of problems you would typically workaround with suspend hooks are best solved somewhere else, probably in the kernel driver. That's so typical for those Poetterix fanboys and developers.

Re: [arch-general] systemd, running scripts after suspend/hibernate

2012-10-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:28:40 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums lis...@baums-on-web.de: That's so typical for those Poetterix fanboys and developers. Firstly ALSA was blamed for the PulseAudio insufficiencies and bugs. ALSA was blamed for PulseAudio not working with a lot of professional audio

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:54:04 -0300 schrieb Martín Cigorraga m...@archlinux.us: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Heiko Most of the time is not what you say but rather how you say it - your tone. The Frenchs have a saying for that: The tone

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:28:20 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: This is not about opinions at all. No, this is about opinions. Well, not only about opinions, also or rather about personal experience. Everything useful that is to say about this topic has been said. All that

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:35:47 +0200 schrieb Øyvind Heggstad mrelen...@har-ikkje.net: Don't worry, you are not at fault in any way here, the systemd hateboy(z)/fudspreader(s) are. Wrong. The systemd fanboys who want to force this crap on everybody else are. The fudspreaders, as you call them,

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:28:40 -0300 schrieb Denis A. Altoé Falqueto denisfalqu...@gmail.com: How long will we have to endure such nonsense? Heiko, you hijacked a thread just to tell your opinion, which everyone already know from your previous posts. And, please, don't reply to me. I don't care.

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 schrieb Zhengyu Xu xzy3...@gmail.com: After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed). [ 10.539416] systemd[1]: segfault at 7d ip b75a97b7 sp bfb0ece8 error 4 in

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:18:49 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: Medical condition? I'm very fine. Thanks. Do I really need to say PulseAudio and Lennart Poettering? And do I really need to say made my own experiences (with PA and systemd, btw.). Because we have never had

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:15:16 +0200 schrieb fredbezies fredbez...@gmail.com: Don't you read the *important* word : testing ! Are you blind ? I read that. And what goes into [testing]? Yes! Bingo! Software version which are released by upstream as *stable*. So yes, upstream was supposed to have

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:52:10 +0200 schrieb fredbezies fredbez...@gmail.com: Just use another distribution. Do you think before you write? What exactly does this have to do with the distribution? Maybe I even would use another distribution if you tell me one Arch like binary distribution which

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:52:01 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: Yes. A bash update in [testing] resulted in unbootable systems. I thought you were around then... maybe it just feels that long. I never used [testing] except for once when I started with Arch. Yes, I once had a

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:00:59 +0200 schrieb G. Schlisio g.schli...@gmx.de: please stop trolling on this list. this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing from this list. Sorry, but this is not trolling. This is just telling that I told it before, when almost everybody

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:11:12 +0200 schrieb fredbezies fredbez...@gmail.com: I was fed up by the crap of the original poster. So I said what need to be written, even if it was a little hard. I will remove myself from this list, because it is no more than crap because of systemd haters. Oh,

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:24:09 +0200 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com: Doesn't seem to be possible with Heiko around. Since nobody seems happy with banning him, I'm also unsubscribing. So you want to have me banned because you don't like my opinions and experiences, and you don't

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:28:58 +0200 schrieb G. Schlisio g.schli...@gmx.de: its ok to tell your opinion, thats not what i mean with trolling. impertinent exclamations and unconstructive i-always-told-you allegations do not help anyone to solve the problem. Oh, this can indeed help. And why

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:06:28 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: After the recent outbreaks, we have been discussing banning people from arch-general. At the time, the people we talked about had calmed down and everything went back to normal, so there was no point in going

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:06:28 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: After the recent outbreaks, we have been discussing banning people from arch-general. At the time, the people we talked about had calmed down and everything went back to normal, so there was no point in going

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] fontconfig 2.10.1 will require user interaction

2012-09-06 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:25:06 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke andy...@archlinux.org: Am Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:02:27 +0200 schrieb Rémy Oudompheng remyoudomph...@gmail.com: I would simply recommend removing the offending files using rm, we certainly know the list. Rémy. News draft:

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] fontconfig 2.10.1 will require user interaction

2012-09-06 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:06:57 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke andy...@archlinux.org: Pacman will detect the symlinks and break before the install scriptlet will be run. So this is not an option. Did you test it? I'm pretty sure it won't, since I tested this before in one of my AUR packages. Well,

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:10:01 -0300 schrieb Tomás Acauan Schertel tscher...@gmail.com: Both /etc/locale.conf and /etc/environment have this lines: LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=C And my system (LXDM + XFCE) keeps en_US. No, it uses C, because Xfce unfortunately uses LC_MESSAGES, not LANG,

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:14:24 -0300 schrieb Tomás Acauan Schertel tscher...@gmail.com: It was working right before last update. What changed? Nothing, unless you haven't changed your locale configuration or a package changed it, but then you would have had at least a *.pacnew file. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] systemd-pulseaudio-no sound card

2012-08-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:32:54 +0200 schrieb Arno Gaboury arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com: On 29/08/12||13:20, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: My issue comes from permission. On console mod, $ aplay -l returns correctly the devices. When I am on X, it doesn't. Might be a PolicyKit issue. How do you

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package

2012-08-27 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400 schrieb Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com: I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough audience. Some of you have probably already noticed that systemd 189 now

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package

2012-08-27 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 +0200 schrieb Joakim Hernberg j...@alchemy.lu: I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :( Try Xfce. ;-) Heiko

Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

2012-08-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:20:47 +0100 schrieb mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com: Isn't it interesting that the vote is currently 81% support for arch to switch to systemd (even with the misspelling in the poll), and only 19% against! Looks like at least from the perspective of this poll (even

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:22:58 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: So you're saying that instead of fixing the problem, every user should remove the offending posts. The problem here are a small handful of people who start flames and spread FUD. Banning a handful of people from

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:56:57 +1000 schrieb Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org: Why would any of us care about your personal life? ... Your head must be such as mess if you can make sense of the above... ... Do either. And when you have five seconds please reflect on why none of us

Re: [arch-general] What can be deleted, when not using systemd - was: polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:45:34 +0200 schrieb Jelle van der Waa je...@vdwaa.nl: Have you ever tried to report your problems with PA and your soundcard to upstream? How many times does it have to be said, that there are bug reports filed to upstream which have been ignored by upstream resp. which

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:47:09 +0300 schrieb Thanasis Georgiou sakisd...@gmail.com: So you had a problem but when Tom wrote a patch you were unwilling to help test it? What part of I had no time to set up a VM. and I have only one stable system which needs to be stable and reliable. didn't you

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:02:03 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: Issues, serious or otherwise, belong in the bug-tracker. We have surprisingly few systemd/pulseaudio bugs open, considering all the noise they create on the ML. Is it really that hard to respect other people's opinions and

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:56:49 +0200 schrieb Jelle van der Waa je...@vdwaa.nl: Sure soon RHEL will switch to systemd with RHEL 7, so the systemd market share will probably continue to grow. Also SUSE seems to switch to systemd. With these major distro's taking up systemd, it's almost impossible

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:21:01 +0200 schrieb Damjan gdam...@gmail.com: not to worry, the whole world of free software developers (including Arch) are here and have all the time to serve your wishes. Have you thought about that comment before sending it? Heiko

Re: [arch-general] note about beginners guide

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:52:09 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: Because cd + ls gives an overview about the structure? The output of $ cd /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe $ ls is exactly the same as $ ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe There's only one difference. The first one

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:38:15 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de: I really haven't seen so many and so long discussions and so many concerns and very negative opinions about a software than I have seen about Lennart's software. And I'm not only reading this mailing list. See e.g

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:57:46 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: I prefer the reviews (good or bad) from someone who has actually read the book. You can usually assume that everybody who writes a review has actually read the book. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:56:33 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: This is not the right mailinglist for this issue. And this certainly is not the right thread for it. This is the right mailing list for this issue, because downstream is also affected by this. And it is also downstream's

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:56:33 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: You pointed out a feature that initsrcipts used to have which systemd-cryptsetup lacked, (on the same day) I posted a patch to implement the feature you requested, and asked for feedback (which you didn't give) Just to

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:10:14 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: I don't know why you set it, but I find LC_COLLATE=C extremely annoying. If you want an English speaking system, but live in Switzerland, I recommend this: LANG=fr_CH.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 You

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:48:02 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: You should be careful with LC_MESSAGES if you use desktop environments which don't have their own language setting like Xfce. ? I know that you're using KDE, if you haven't switched in the meantime. ;-)

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:13:24 -0400 schrieb Ray Kohler ataraxia...@gmail.com: You might check if ls sorts in this same odd fashion. It might be a locale setting - if LC_COLLATE is set to your actual locale, it text will be sorted as if were natural language (i.e., prose), rather than sorting

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:22:28 +0200 schrieb Nelson Marambio nelsonmaram...@gmx.de: that is / was right for Win 98 or Win ME. Having an exception error which was caused by damaged registry files always meant a reset to state short after the OS-installation, so all the drivers and programs had

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:44:34 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr: I can find anything in systemd which could make think of the registry on Windows. I didn't say that. You are mixing up two things: - adding/removing services on boot; - configuring the services. The first -

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:51:15 +0200 (CEST) schrieb okra...@arcor.de: this is simply not true. Sorry, but this is simply true. I know Windoze XP and I had to use it long enough, far too long. First of all, starting with Windows XP the stability of Windows (yes, Windows, not Windoze) got much

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:05:37 -0400 schrieb Stephen E. Baker baker.stephe...@gmail.com: This DAEMONS array is nice, one of the things I like about Arch, but it is specific to Arch not SysV. If you run Gentoo, or others you won't have something like that, you'll have a program that arranges

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:40:51 +1000 schrieb Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org: [2012-07-24 09:19:27 -0400] Baho Utot: He is stating his opinion and that should be valued Baseless opinions are not valuable, they are spam. Actually they are not baseless even if he didn't explain every

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:07:50 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de: Btw., in all those discussions about systemd as well as in all those discussions about PulseAudio, I always read more or less technical arguments from people who have objections against them or have tried them

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:08:26 -0500 schrieb Leonid Isaev lis...@umail.iu.edu: One thing I noticed is that the only people who usually bash Windows are those who don't develop or know very little about programming. You really shouldn't do such assumptions. You couldn't have noticed it, you're

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:31:22 -0500 schrieb Leonid Isaev lis...@umail.iu.edu: The problem is not with the registry itself, but bad programming. Most software devs under windows have very little understanding of the registry. Bad programming is the most favorite answer, and totally nonsense.

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:25:52 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: Talking about UNIX philosophy and Windoze like ini files is probably what gets some people going. It is not technical. In fact it is technical. Of course, at first glance config files for rc scripts and ini files are simple

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:36:05 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr: Sounds like you (don't take this a personal critism, you're not alone) have poor administration practices. First, I do have administration practices. Editing multiple files instead of one in not a problem at

Re: [arch-general] Grub2 config file needs to be tweaked with last official ISO

2012-07-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:34:12 +0200 schrieb Nelson Marambio nelsonmaram...@gmx.de: Am 22.07.2012 13:50, schrieb Damjan: ps. any special reason that you have a separate /boot partition? /boot is still mentioned in the beginner's guide on

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:43:39 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org: Fair enough, but for this sort of thing, who is 'upstream' ? In this case the super-ingenious Lennart Poettering, I guess. That said, Gentoo always had separate config files located in /etc/conf.d. So the idea of

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:01 -0400 schrieb Not To Miss not.to.m...@gmail.com: Dear Arch users, I have latest Arch installed on my desktop at work. In recent two weeks, the system randomly suspends at night (I call it randomly because it didn't happen every night. And it seems to happen

Re: [arch-general] Upgraded kmod, but --ignored linux glibc, modules still in /lib - can I reboot safely?

2012-07-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:35:58 -0500 schrieb David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com: Tom, All, I see the glibc /lib move is out of testing. I updated with --ignore linux,glibc and received an install warning from kmod stating: == Kernel modules are now only read from

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:45 +0300 schrieb Chris Sakalis chrissaka...@gmail.com: Hello, pulseaudio[1] has that functionality. You should check it out. On KDE , Kmix supports pulseaudio and I am pretty sure it support auto switching too. PulseAudio is more or less crap. It still doesn't

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:06:20 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com: Yes, why not repeat that opinion in every thread where pulse is brought up? Its not like its repetitive. Yes, why not repeat that suggestion installing PulseAudio in every thread where somebody has a simple question

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:22:45 +0800 schrieb ShichaoGao xgd...@gmail.com: True! Maybe many people got the bad impression of PA in previous versions. Wrong! Maybe many people got the bad impression of PA, because PA just still doesn't work with their audio cards, and because PA still causes more

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:00:56 +0100 schrieb Mauro Santos registo.maill...@gmail.com: Have you actually tried using the latest pulseaudio for a couple of weeks? For supported hardware it sure does something somewhat similar to what the OP wants. It sure seems you have some gripe with

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:27:47 -0700 schrieb David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org: I think it *might* be possible to configure PulseAudio to work correctly. But in my experience, only LinuxMint has gotten this right out of the box. Unfortunately not. The configuration methods you find in the

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:05:11 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com: That load of drivel below isn't bashing? You refer to fanboys and proceed to list a whole loss of statements not made by anyone in this thread. And then you insist that for pulse to be standard it must conform to

Re: [arch-general] *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:00:10 +0200 schrieb Nelson Marambio nelsonmaram...@gmx.de: Heiko, by installing GNOME, pulseaudio was installed as dependency I guess. That's one of the problems I have with PA, indeed. ;-) So please don't blame for starting with pulse, ok ? I don't blame you, but I

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:08:40 -0700 schrieb David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org: I found it more annoying to uninstall pulseaudio than difficult. And it's fair to say I was already annoyed, so there has also been a cathartic element to it. Basically, using whatever package manager was

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:23:54 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com: Your facts are opinions and assumptions, mostly about putting words in the mythical pulse fanboy's mouth. Not to mention totally unhelpful to the discussion. I would say, your nonsense is unhelpful. And my facts are

Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:09:09 +0300 schrieb angelinheavysyrup ‎ angelinvert...@hotmail.com: Is there anything I can do about this? Do you get any messages from ALSA during boot? Have you tried to reset your ALSA settings in alsamixer? Sometimes it happens that ALSA changes some channel names or

Re: [arch-general] UEFI secure boot

2012-06-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:44:31 +0200 schrieb Alexandre Ferrando alfer...@gmail.com: Arch doesn't seems to have the same kind of user than fedora, Arch if I don't remember it wrong, tends to be aimed for a competent user. Such a competent user can disable secure boot in x86 devices. (ARM devices

[arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Is there a problem with the mirrors and their synchronization or with the package database? Since a while pacman tells me that my package databases for all repos are up-to-date. The latest version of linux in those databases is linux 3.3.6-1 while the latest version in [core] should be 3.3.7-1

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 10:36:36 +0200 schrieb Maximilian Bräutigam m...@xbra.de: I discovered the same problem for German mirrors. Finally, I got my kernel 3.3.7 from It's not only the German mirrors, it's at least one French mirror, too. Server =

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 11:02:29 +0200 schrieb Patrick Steinhardt steinhardt@googlemail.com: I've experienced the same problems. I was able to solve the problem by forcing database-updates with 'pacman -Syy'. Like I've written in my first e-mail this didn't help me. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 14:45:22 +0300 schrieb Axilleas Pi axillea...@ymail.com: I had the same problem. I think the problem is with ftp mirrors. Try one http and see how it goes. At least, one I tried solved this problem. I forgot to mention this, I admit, but I only use http mirrors. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 16:19:54 +0200 schrieb Bjoern Franke b...@nord-west.org: Do you mean mir.archlinux.fr? Yes. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 12:26:02 +0200 schrieb Jakob Wadsager jakob.wadsa...@gmail.com: On 25 May 2012 10:09, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Is there a problem with the mirrors and their synchronization or with the package database? Our uk2.net mirror has some problems

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors not synchronized or a problem with the package database?

2012-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 25 May 2012 21:41:08 +0200 schrieb Jakob Wadsager jakob.wadsa...@gmail.com: gwdg.de is upstream for some of the mirrors in your mirrorlist, and it had problems. I've been in contact with an admin earlier this day and it seems the problems have been resolved. The third in your

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] cpufrequtils in [core]

2012-04-19 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:23:40 +0200 schrieb Seblu se...@seblu.net: Currently i removed the last kernel version dot in linux-tools to avoid user confusion between stable kernel number and linux-tools version. I manually check if stable release embed fix for cpupower and perf to avoid user to

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] cpufrequtils in [core]

2012-04-18 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:58:09 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: I agree it would make sense to make it a split package with the kernel as the source is shipped with the kernel (afaiu). I missed that Seblu meant this. This would, indeed, make sense. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] A bug reported, no response in two weeks

2012-03-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:24:43 +0200 schrieb Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com: Oh, I forgot to mention that I've fixed both the mentioned bug and a related osmo bug a few hours ago. Thanks form me, too. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] A bug reported, no response in two weeks

2012-03-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:23:07 +0200 schrieb Karol Blazewicz karol.blazew...@gmail.com: There's a nasty typo in libgringotts PKGBUILD http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/libgringotts : 'pckage()' should be changed to 'package()', otherwise the

Re: [arch-general] makepkg/PKGBUILD - handle same files provided by 2 non-dependent packages?

2012-03-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 20:30:52 +0300 schrieb Jesse Juhani Jaara jesse.ja...@gmail.com: su, 2012-03-25 kello 12:24 -0500, David C. Rankin kirjoitti: Is there a go-by PKGBUILD that anyone can think of that does just that? In tdesdk's PKGBUILD do somthing like this build () { pach -Np -i

Re: [arch-general] makepkg/PKGBUILD - handle same files provided by 2 non-dependent packages?

2012-03-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:08:43 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de: AUR still doesn't support split packages, and split packages can't be handled by the AUR wrappers. So this is really the worst ideas for AUR, and should only be used for binary repos for now. The better way

Re: [arch-general] makepkg/PKGBUILD - handle same files provided by 2 non-dependent packages?

2012-03-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:02:33 -0400 schrieb Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com: You stiil had/have a workable solution though But you don't mean this solution? pkgbase=splittest pkgname=splittest true pkgname=('splittest' 'splittest-foo') This doesn't really work as already explained once on

Re: [arch-general] apparently bash export is broken for users

2012-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:08:57 +0800 schrieb XeCycle xecy...@gmail.com: Not everyone uses bash as the default shell, you can also source ~/.profile in your bash_profile if you like. But the thread subject says bash export. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] apparently bash export is broken for users

2012-03-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:18:43 +0800 schrieb XeCycle xecy...@gmail.com: Aren't you supposed to edit ~/.profile by hand? Isn't the correct file to set such environment variables locally ~/.bash_profile resp. ~/.bashrc? For global settings it's /etc/profile or better a new file in /etc/profile.d

Re: [arch-general] problem with pulseaudio when resuming from pm-suspend

2012-03-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:35:07 +0200 schrieb Thanasis Georgiou sakisd...@gmail.com: No it's not. Sorry, but it is. The developers decided they want it a part of their desktop environment and now it's a dependency. And that's the problem and the reason, why those flame wars regularly pop up if

Re: [arch-general] problem with pulseaudio when resuming from pm-suspend

2012-03-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:51:01 + schrieb John K Pate j.k.p...@sms.ed.ac.uk: does every single question about pulseaudio really need to be confronted with a holy war against pulseaudio? As long as it is such a crap, still doesn't work, doesn't support every sound and audio card, causes more

Re: [arch-general] Using Shift + F1 on XFCE

2012-02-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:14:13 +0100 schrieb Vitor Garcia vitorlopesgar...@gmail.com: Any ideas of how to do that? I can't reproduce this, too. But maybe you could check if you have set a keyboard shortcut to Shift+F1 in Xfce here: Settings - Keyboard - Application Shortcuts Settings - Window

Re: [arch-general] An empty /etc/crontab file maybe needed bo be add in to package filesystem.

2012-02-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:25:54 +0800 schrieb 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) techlivezh...@gmail.com: Due to cronie doesn't contain an /etc/crontab anymore, there are losts of msgs of missing crontab as shown below in errors.log. /usr/sbin/crond[1236]: (root) CAN'T OPEN (/etc/crontab): No such file or

Re: [arch-general] offtopic ml (WAS eons ago: Re: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:17:48 +0100 schrieb Martti Kühne mysat...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:08:27PM -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote: ... s, how about an `arch-offtopic` list? then at least we'd have somewhere to send these tangents, under pain of DEATH (er, temp ban

Re: [arch-general] offtopic ml (WAS eons ago: Re: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:14:01 -0600 schrieb C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me: not always, and i use a mobile 70%+ of the time. i don't want to create a new filter for every long-winded thread to nowhere. maybe i can create a label - trash, and flag multiple conversations ... maybe i can't.

Re: [arch-general] Merge /bin to /usr/bin?

2012-01-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:32:50 +0100 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: I'm not at all a fan of the way Fedora is going to do the move btw... Maybe the way of going over a committee is the better way after all? ;-) I just say: FHS and the chaos and the imcompatibilities because every distro

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:58:31 +0100 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: Sounds like possibly valid concerns. But this is not something to discuss here. Please contact gnome and/or pulseaudio if you have issues. This has already been tried at least with pulseaudio. Their reactions are known.

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:42:33 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org: They *DO* know and understand the difference between consumer and 'pro' audio. I have another impression. I wonder what your problem is. There is no audio production software I know of that uses or depends on

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:35:07 +0100 schrieb Jelle van der Waa je...@vdwaa.nl: Indeed, this should be the thing the complainers _should_ be doing. Archlinux ships vanilla upstream, so you're really barking at the wrong tree here. Please consider asking either PA for help or ditch it. I don't

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:03:13 -0400 schrieb Norbert Zeh n...@cs.dal.ca: Let me chime in here to add an important point to this discussion. The whole discussion so far sounds as if PA works great with non-pro cards and breaks only on pro cards. That's not the case: PA has problems even with

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-29 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:55:28 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org: Could be. My impression is based on talking with LP face to face. And yours ? My is based on a bug report, upstream's solution for closing this bug report - this weird ALSA configuration which cripples those cards

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:21:01 -0600 schrieb C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me: well, i can't say i care much about the FHS either. IMO, systemd/pulseaudio work fantastic, and are orders of magnitude better than their predecessors, and only move the ecosystem forward. i also make extensive

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:24:47 +0100 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: Maybe I (or others) were unclear in our explanations, but at least you should have had a look at the software you are claiming to be buggy (you would quickly see that there is no problem). Again, PulseAudio which Lennart

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:09:30 +0100 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: Have you tried after this fix was released: http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-lib.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3906a93072171e5b5f4000d4a228af4eb8fa253? Like I've written in another e-mail in this thread: And, no, artificially

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:29:33 +0100 schrieb Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: The majority of Linux users on non-audio Linux mailing lists praise PA, ... And the most computer users use Windows. So what's the point? That doesn't mean that Windows is better than Linux or that Windows

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:25 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org: PA is for 'consumer' use, its scope ends at ITU 5.1 or so. It doesn't support any serious multichannel card (like the the comlete RME series, up to 64+64 channels). Users of such cards don't need or want PA, so

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:22:05 +0100 schrieb Stefan Wilkens stefanwilk...@gmail.com: Does this really need to be rehashed yet again? This isn't arch related yet these PA back and forths keeps popping up in the mailboxes of all the registered people looking for arch-related content. I didn't

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:34:32 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org: It's part of a more general trend, that of dependencies on specific desktop junk trickling down into even basic system components and plain apps. And that's a problem. This should be changed again. And it's

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