Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 23/01/11 18:13, hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: .you're a troll and a spammer. Get the hell off my mailing list. Meeku: This attitude does not do the reputation of your o/s any good. If you don't want to use the

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-28 Thread Nathan Wayde
It's probably because the masses of people who already know Pulse Audio will break their sound aren't bothering to try it. I have a whole IRC channel filled with people who, if they were to actually test this, would FLOOD this entire discussion with problems that would make the Arch devs

Re: [arch-general] How do AUR packages get new maintainers?

2010-09-22 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 22/09/10 18:44, David C. Rankin wrote: On 09/21/2010 09:07 PM, Mario Figueiredo wrote: On 21-09-2010 23:17, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: On 09/21/2010 04:53 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, I've seen recent Request to Ophan package XYZ posts, and I've found some fairly large AUR

Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki

2010-09-19 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 18/09/10 19:17, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote: [...] Guus, I checked the current mirrorlist before replying, correct me if I'm wrong but I can't find any entry relating to the domain Nathan included in his mailing, nor is he listed as a tier1 on the developer's wiki. Maybe I've missed something

Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki

2010-09-19 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 19/09/10 17:26, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: [...] As I posted on the forum... How hard is it to run rsync and look at the man page for rsync? rsync is the *only* command that is needed to create a local mirror. We want to discourage this behavior as much as possible and it is really quite

Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki

2010-09-16 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: [..] Ok a few things here 1. There are a *few* instances where having a local mirror is warranted not sure where you were going with that but i feel like you've left a bit off of that sentence. 2. There are many, many, many packages that are

Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki

2010-09-16 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 16/09/10 20:10, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: On 09/16/2010 02:59 PM, Nathan Wayde wrote: On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: [..] Ok a few things here 1. There are a *few* instances where having a local mirror is warranted not sure where you were going with that but i feel like

Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki

2010-09-16 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 17/09/10 00:21, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 16:16 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 09:54:16PM +0200, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote: On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: you don't get to tell anyone how to use their bandwidth. But can we at least say that

Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki

2010-09-09 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 09/09/10 14:11, Pierre Schmitz wrote: On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:55:35 +0300, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Fesskillall_hum...@lavabit.com wrote: Page Local mirros was removed from wiki by this reason: - It is generally frowned upon to create

Re: [arch-general] [PATCH 1/2] kill_everything: Reduce number of -f tests

2010-09-09 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 09/09/10 16:19, Victor Lowther wrote: Thomas Bächlertho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 08.09.2010 06:16, schrieb Victor Lowther: On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Dave Reisnerd...@falconindy.com wrote: Instead of checking for the existance of a file in /var/run/daemons on every

[arch-general] Makepkg $(srcdir) detection and false-positives

2010-08-27 Thread Nathan Wayde
I'm not sure if this is the correct ML or not but whatever I'll post here anyway. I was just reading the ML where the quest? to finding why makepkg warns about $srcdir was brought up and a simple grep -R... seemed to be the method of detection. Anyway it reminded me of another message on the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Large packages in repositories

2010-08-18 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 18 August 2010 16:37, Pierre Schmitzpie...@archlinux.de wrote: [...] -- Sven-Hendrik You need to keep in mind that's its not just the disk space that might cause problems here but traffic and especially bandwidth are. E.g. the our mainserver has about 10mbit/d bandwidth including

Re: [arch-general] Referencing $srcdir in PKGBUILD?

2010-08-17 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 17/08/10 10:15, Allan McRae wrote: On 17/08/10 19:05, Magnus Therning wrote: Lately my PKGBUILDs result in a warning when building: == WARNING: Package contains reference to $srcdir It's a bit confusing, since PKGBUILD(5) has the following to say about $srcdir: srcdir This points to the

Re: [arch-general] New to Arch with problems with AUR

2010-07-23 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 23/07/10 11:36, Florian Pritz wrote: On 23.07.2010 12:27, Mario Daniel Carugno wrote: First i present myself. My name is Mario and i was reading this list for a few weeks. I'm coming from Debian, [...] Welcome :) For instance, i couldn't compile shaman. Actually i can't compile aqpm or

Re: [arch-general] Getting firefox to use the PDF I want?

2010-07-22 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 22/07/10 23:31, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: It would appear that on Jul 21, Magnus Therning did say: After installing Gimp it became the default application for PDFs, something I didn't really want. snip How do I get firefox to use the correct application? It would appear that on Jul

Re: [arch-general] perl-authen-sasl: local (2.1401-1) is newer than community (2.15-1)

2010-07-20 Thread Nathan Wayde
This is prolly a stupid idea but I'll suggest it anyway. Have anyone thought of simply adding another field in the pkginfo, say altver which if present would override pkgver. I'm pretty sure it would walk right around all this nonsense until(if ever) upstream starts using better version

Re: [arch-general] ftp.gigabit.nu / ftp.archlinux.se shutting down

2010-07-04 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 04/07/10 21:35, Rickard Eriksson wrote: Cut from the forum where my co-admin first put this up, however it got closed with reason trolling... This mirror will shut down in the upcoming days. Few funny facts: * We never got contacted by anyone before we got added in the official mirror

Re: [arch-general] Catalyst-test

2010-07-03 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 03/07/10 03:40, Martín Cigorraga wrote: @Nathan, Janno: Hi guys, thanks for your time and forgive me the lapse to post my comment but I'm literally out of time these days - personal things and such... I did follow wiki step by step just like I do allways with all the *excellent* Arch wikis

Re: [arch-general] VLC and Wine have been out-of-date too long.

2010-06-26 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 26/06/10 08:28, Lauri Niskanen wrote: Hello, usually Arch Linux have had very quick updates to packages when the upstream bumbed a version. However, I am slightly annoyed by the fact that VLC [1] and Wine [2] have been out-of-date for a long time. VLC 1.1.0 was released about a week ago and

Re: [arch-general] Catalyst-test

2010-06-26 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 26/06/10 18:00, Martín Cigorraga wrote: Hi folks, first time at the list. I'm still using catalyst-test and haven't upgraded to new catalyst/kernel/evedev bacause some issues I never had before with Arch. Catalyst: I installed latest catalyst with xorg-server with the maximize-fix following

Re: [arch-general] Catalyst-test

2010-06-23 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 23/06/10 11:39, Madhurya Kakati wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Heiko Baumsli...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:50:37 +0530 schrieb Madhurya Kakatimkakati2...@gmail.com: Itsn't catalyst-test in AUR Catalyst 10.6? No, it's 10.4. You should use catalyst from AUR.

Re: [arch-general] Catalyst-test

2010-06-23 Thread Nathan Wayde
are here http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI_Catalyst#Catalyst.27s_repositories just pick your repo and `pacman -S catalyst` ... Nathan Wayde Thank you. Was looking for a repo. didn't knew it existed. I should also note: some of us have issues with some app most notably xulrunner based apps

Re: [arch-general] File Associations for firefox thunderbird :)^

2010-06-15 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 15/06/10 09:19, Peter Lewis wrote: On Tuesday 15 Jun 2010 at 06:48 Madhurya Kakati wrote: I am a full time KDE user and I don't have GNOME or its libraries. Firefox and Thunderbird keep asking me to choose applications to open .pdf, .doc, .xls, http://, etc. Is there no package which can fix

Re: [arch-general] Equalizer

2010-05-29 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 29/05/10 14:45, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Hi, I am looking for a global sound equalizer. It seems there is one for pulseaudio, but does it work fine if anybody is using it on this list ? Also, any other alternatives because I am using ALSA. Yes it works perfectly with PA, YMMV of-course.

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-26 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 26/05/10 16:59, Joerg Schilling wrote: Mauro Santosregisto.maill...@gmail.com wrote: Because I say so is not a valid backup for your claims, Earth used to be flat and the center of the universe because the experts of that time said so. This behavior gets people mad at you and invariably

Re: [arch-general] Recent telepathy-butterfly upgrade breaks MSN connection?

2010-05-22 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 23/05/10 04:15, Ye Li wrote: Hi guys, Anyone met problems after the recent upgrade of telepathy-butterfly? In my box most of buddies are marked *offline* although they are actually online. Even oddly, downgrade telepathy-butterfly to 0.5.9-1 cannot solve the problem. So I'm wondering if this

Re: [arch-general] Arch shutdown because of firefox

2010-05-11 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 11/05/10 13:59, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 11.05.2010 14:56, schrieb Handsome Cheung: yes, I run hal, but don't use display manager. Your answer inspired me, and I will check something about hal immediately. Thanks! Even if the user is allowed to use hal to initiate a shutdown, it would

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 07/05/10 15:48, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Heldm...@hehejo.de wrote: http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you that vim conflicts with gvim. This is the expected behavior. Installation of vim and

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 07/05/10 17:10, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Nathan Waydekum...@konnichi.com wrote: On 07/05/10 15:48, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Heldm...@hehejo.de wrote: http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ * If you have gvim

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 21/04/10 09:28, Ananda Samaddar wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:26:33 -0500 David C. Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: It still amazes me how people will take the position that all associated with Gnome must be 'crap'. No don't get me wrong, I have no arguments with your

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 21/04/10 10:52, Jan de Groot wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:35 +0100, Nathan Wayde wrote: Do you mind listing these Gnome dependencies, or at least your proposed PKGBUILD? I've looked at this and I can see only 2 (gconf and libsoup-gnome). Ofcourse that is based on the assumption

Re: [arch-general] packman -S eterm [done] But: bash: eterm: command not found ????

2010-04-19 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 20/04/10 03:56, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: Could be I'm missing something here... But shouldn't 'pacman -S eterm' put executable somewhere in the standard path??? This was done using a root shell in a konsole terminal under E17 on my recently updated Arch installation... I did search the

Re: [arch-general] manage starting and stopping processes with less typing

2010-04-15 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 13/04/10 20:50, Linas wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, One thing I miss with Arch are init-script shortcuts for starting and stopping processes. rc-commands really help cut down on typing. For example, all suse did was to create links to the files in /etc/rc.d/... with a naming

Re: [arch-general] Apache dead after kernel update - make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:443 - (Solved by 2nd Reboot)

2010-04-12 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 12/04/10 07:53, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, I don't know what's up here, but I updated the system ( no [testing] ), and rebooted to load the new kernel, and http was dead. On start, the error said it couldn't bind to port 443 because it was already taken -- Huh? Here are

[arch-general] Xz, space savings and delta ... my findings

2010-04-01 Thread Nathan Wayde
Here's one for ya. Decompress a gzip'ed package, say pacman. Now, recompress every file in that directory with `xz -1`, smile :) Result: the re-compression is faster than a tar+gz and in each case so far(kerne26, gcc, perl, pacman, kdelibs) is a little smaller as well. It doesn't approach

Re: [arch-general] Xz, space savings and delta ... my findings

2010-04-01 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 01/04/10 14:03, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:54:56 +0100 Nathan Waydekum...@konnichi.com wrote: Comparing with the delta (between the original packages) which 5.3MB it's not a whole lot while allowing more flexibility(IMHO). I don't see the point. with binary

Re: [arch-general] Btrfs more than twice as fast compared to ext4

2010-03-16 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 16/03/10 00:48, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: [...] But as far as file system performance goes, the overhead should be identical for both the runs, no? I'm not too sure about that. I'm guessing there is less seeking going on with Btrfs. Some files systems (reiserfs + reiserfs4 IIRC) are very

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-03-10 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 10/03/10 20:03, clemens fischer wrote: [...] Ironically, if pacman was such a tidy package manager and devs were so keen to keep things that way, why is there ever any output in pacman -Qdt? clemens Could it be because you explicitly requested that? i.e `pacman -R pkgname` which removes

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs = git ?

2010-03-07 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 07/03/10 21:34, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 10:24:42PM +0100, Xavier Chantry wrote: [...] And in 95% of the cases, I do not need any history, I just need the last version to read/edit/rebuild. Yes, with git you get the full history. I've still not grokked why that

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit - tone it down

2010-01-30 Thread Nathan Wayde
@Joerg Schilling This is not another attack against you so please to not try and make yourself appear as some kinda of victim here as well. I know it's none of my business replying here, but I feel I need to say something. It's not related to the original discussion, but your attitude.

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 20/01/10 16:51, David C. Rankin wrote: Tobias, all, After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs: (1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker (2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox It was ironic, because I was using WindowMaker when I installed the kernel and then on

Re: [arch-general] speaking of Thunderbird 3.X - great new thread summary view

2009-12-15 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 15/12/09 09:33, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:25 +, Magnus Therning wrote: 2009/12/15 Ng Oon-Eengoo...@gmail.com: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 07:46 +, Nathan Wayde wrote: On 15/12/09 07:40, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Hmm, it just shows ... for me for all messages. top-left near

Re: [arch-general] speaking of Thunderbird 3.X - great new thread summary view

2009-12-14 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 15/12/09 07:40, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Hmm, it just shows ... for me for all messages. top-left near the 'Subject' header, the button?/header with the icon that looks like a lower-case t, to the left of the star header - click it.

Re: [arch-general] Making pacman check multiple repos

2009-12-13 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 13/12/09 08:48, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 03:31 -0500, Qadri wrote: So should it be a function of the program to make sure that happens? Or is a responsibility of the user? Should the functionality be programmed into pacman to make sure that happens, or should we be asking that

Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?

2009-12-03 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 03/12/09 18:14, Arvid Picciani wrote: [...] I'll add some additional points: - it's implementation is large broken. how so? - most software depending on it, will crash when dbus file bug reports and get developers to write proper software. crashes, or fail to start uncracefully, or behave

Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?

2009-12-03 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 04/12/09 02:27, Arvid Picciani wrote: [...] Let me illustrate the problem here by construction an argument with a similar flaw: The mouse is inflexible and should be deprecated, as a stylus has the advantage of being cordless. All modern pointing devices should be cordless and i think these

Re: [arch-general] peaceful suggestion to clarify the arch way to avoid this to happen AGAIN

2009-12-03 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 03/12/09 23:49, Arvid Picciani wrote: Heiko Baums wrote: Show me a more minimalist distribution than Arch and Gentoo. I guess you won't find one. And if you did I suggest you switching to this distro. This is the entire reason i want arch to officialy state that these users are not

Re: [arch-general] Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 02/12/09 07:38, Arvid Picciani wrote: Ray Kohler wrote: What I personally am in support of, in the general case, is suckless.org-style minimalism, rather than following upstream's direction. So if upstream changes the default to enable the hal and dbus bits, I will then be in favor of Arch

Re: [arch-general] conclusion: Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 02/12/09 09:55, Arvid Picciani wrote: Thanks to enough input i have learned two things of this thread: 1) The problem IS upstream related. Some packages do enable dbus when it is available, for the convenience of those users who do not understand what dbus is and hence need it.