Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.08.2012 14:14, schrieb Felipe Contreras: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, fredbezies fredbez...@gmail.com wrote: I'm an old archlinux user (first installation back in december 2008), and for a long time, I was very satisfied with arch-general. But some people - can we define them as

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.08.2012 08:10, schrieb Dennis Herbrich: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:53:02AM -0400, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: As far as ML noise goes, that's what killfiles and client-side filters are for, no? People can (or at least should be able to) configure their mailreaders to mute people or topics they

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.08.2012 15:08, schrieb Felipe Contreras: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 16.08.2012 14:14, schrieb Felipe Contreras: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, fredbezies fredbez...@gmail.com wrote: I'm an old archlinux user (first installation back

Re: [arch-general] Systemd screen brightness

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.08.2012 03:30, schrieb Michael Nawrocki: I'm trying to get my laptop backlight keys (fn+f6/f7) to adjust the brightness of my toshiba laptop backlight. I am curious. With 3.3 and earlier, my keys used to adjust brightness on their own. Since 3.4, they don't, and only work in KDE, but not

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.08.2012 11:21, schrieb Kevin Chadwick: I'd love to see the overall advantages and disadvantages of each of those fleshed out on a page where I can read them Here's one part A good design would make the init process which is always running and everyone must run. 1./ Be a small

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.08.2012 13:34, schrieb Felipe Contreras: 1./ Be a small simple binary The systemd main binary is not very large (larger than sysvinit's /sbin/init, but not by much). But that binary alone is useless, and certainly not *simple*. /sbin/init from sysvinit alone is useless. What is your

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.08.2012 14:01, schrieb Felipe Contreras: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 15.08.2012 13:34, schrieb Felipe Contreras: 1./ Be a small simple binary The systemd main binary is not very large (larger than sysvinit's /sbin/init, but not by much

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.08.2012 15:31, schrieb Felipe Contreras: What argument? You _claim_ that it isn't simple, but you do not give any proof for that claim. It is general knowledge that scripting languages are generally simpler than compiling languages. Here I wanted to stop discussing with you, but I

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.08.2012 16:47, schrieb Kevin Chadwick: I already found another feature in systemd that people always wanted for initscripts, but was too hard to implement, After posting so much pointless and wrong text aside from systemd can do some things a little quicker which we all know. Why

Re: [arch-general] Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd

2012-08-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 14.08.2012 15:08, schrieb Baho Utot: Wow, this sounds so much like a conspiracy theory. The fact is that the people who write the code inevitably dictate which software is maintained, based on their interests and convictions, and they're pretty much unanimous that systemd is a better

[arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 14.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Brandon Watkins: Systemd isn't going anywhere anytime soon, its going to be adopted by RHEL (which means it would also be adopted by RHEL derivatives like CentOS), and its being adopted by major distros like fedora, opensuse, mageia etc... What are those major

Re: [arch-general] No signal on external monitor with 3.5 Kernel

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 10.08.2012 11:17, schrieb Sudaraka Wijesinghe: xrandr output http://pastebin.com/z9G4n1Sp This is what I use to initialize the two monitors when X starts According to this, your monitor is enabled at 1920x1080. Also, as I mentioned before I don't see the output during the boot either so

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a journal is no use since the files are rarely changed and the filesystem is mostly opened read only. The journal takes up some space. These may matter to you if you are trying to optimize

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 17:35, schrieb Manolo Martínez: On 08/09/12 at 05:27pm, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a journal is no use since the files are rarely changed and the filesystem is mostly opened read

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 17:34, schrieb Baho Utot: On 08/09/2012 11:27 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a journal is no use since the files are rarely changed and the filesystem is mostly opened read only

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 17:58, schrieb Baho Utot: It is not 10 year old information it was published just after ext4 came out google is your friend. It is still outdated information. After ext4 came out, it took a few months until Google started implementing ext4 without a journal - precisely because

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 18:23, schrieb Manolo Martínez: On 08/09/12 at 11:18am, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:35:04 -0400 Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: Is it safe to change an existing /boot from ext2 to ext4? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ext4 Is the information

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 18:27, schrieb Manolo Martínez: On 08/09/12 at 06:26pm, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 09.08.2012 18:23, schrieb Manolo Martínez: On 08/09/12 at 11:18am, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:35:04 -0400 Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: Is it safe to change

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.07.2012 05:46, schrieb Not To Miss: Jul 14 20:36:15 phelps kernel: [111935.191008] PGD 10b42e067 PUD 0 Jul 14 20:36:15 phelps kernel: [111935.191011] Oops: [#1] PREEMPT SMP Jul 14 20:36:15 phelps kernel: [111935.191015] CPU 0 Jul 14 20:36:15 phelps kernel: [111935.191016] Modules

Re: [arch-general] pacman's default download manager?

2012-08-02 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 02.08.2012 11:20, schrieb Oon-Ee Ng: On my personal machine I've long-since changed XferCommand, but on doing a new install on another machine with the latest iso (behind a proxy, which is a first for me), I figured out that a problem I was having was linked to pacman NOT using wget by

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 01.08.2012 13:16, schrieb fredbezies: LANG=fr_CH.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C An english speaking system ? LANG= en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C I don't know why you set it, but I find LC_COLLATE=C extremely annoying. If you want an English speaking system, but live in Switzerland, I recommend this:

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 01.08.2012 14:35, schrieb Heiko Baums: Am Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:10:14 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: I don't know why you set it, but I find LC_COLLATE=C extremely annoying. If you want an English speaking system, but live in Switzerland, I recommend this: LANG

Re: [arch-general] Arch kernel

2012-08-01 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 01.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Jorge Almeida: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Leonardo Dagnino leodag@gmail.com wrote: Can't you just get the sources through ABS and change the config before building the package? Leonardo Dagnino What would be the point? Wouldn't it add another level of

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] linux-3.5.0-1 enters [testing]

2012-08-01 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 01.08.2012 20:33, schrieb Marti Raudsepp: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Tobias Powalowski tobias.powalow...@googlemail.com wrote: Please report any issues that arise. I have an interesting problem on my laptop: about 1 in 3 times during boot, the initrd fails to find the root file

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] linux-3.5.0-1 enters [testing]

2012-08-01 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 01.08.2012 22:13, schrieb Marti Raudsepp: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: This might be unavoidable. Try lvmwait=/dev/sdXY on the command line, where sdXY is the partition that holds the LVM PV. So you're saying that Linux 3.5 didn't introduce

Re: [arch-general] must be root to ping?

2012-07-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 14.07.2012 16:45, schrieb David Benfell: Hey all, Did I miss something? I now have to use sudo in order to ping: No idea how you broke this, but this should fix it: setcap cap_net_raw=ep /usr/bin/ping signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] must be root to ping?

2012-07-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 14.07.2012 17:23, schrieb Jesse Juhani Jaara: la, 2012-07-14 kello 18:22 +0300, Mantas Mikulėnas kirjoitti: Which filesystem is your /usr using? Not all file systems support storing capabilities... though the error might be caused by something else, too. Ext4 This is getting weird. ext4

Re: [arch-general] must be root to ping?

2012-07-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 14.07.2012 17:47, schrieb Thomas Bächler: Am 14.07.2012 17:23, schrieb Jesse Juhani Jaara: la, 2012-07-14 kello 18:22 +0300, Mantas Mikulėnas kirjoitti: Which filesystem is your /usr using? Not all file systems support storing capabilities... though the error might be caused by something

Re: [arch-general] must be root to ping?

2012-07-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 14.07.2012 18:26, schrieb Jesse Juhani Jaara: la, 2012-07-14 kello 18:05 +0200, Thomas Bächler kirjoitti: Custom kernel maybe? Actually yesm and a higly stipped down one.. Taking a look ot the kernl config it seems I have disabbled 'Security labels' on ext4 module. COuld

Re: [arch-general] arch with a specific kernel version

2012-07-13 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 13.07.2012 12:31, schrieb andrea crotti: 2012/7/12 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: Am 12.07.2012 17:34, schrieb andrea crotti: Ok thanks, I'm trying now but the vanilla kernel doesn't compile. Looking around in the forum it appears to be the gcc version too new and I'm installing gcc

Re: [arch-general] arch with a specific kernel version

2012-07-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 12.07.2012 16:11, schrieb andrea crotti: I would like to create multiple arch linux installations with a specific (a quite old 2.6 version) kernel version. Is that in theory possible/easy? I have a new one recently created but the downport doesn't seem so easy, so maybe it would just be

Re: [arch-general] arch with a specific kernel version

2012-07-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 12.07.2012 16:38, schrieb andrea crotti: I need 2.6.32 so it might still work.. The glibc for example though requires linux3 kernel apparently No, the glibc requires 2.6.32 (didn't I just say that?):

Re: [arch-general] arch with a specific kernel version

2012-07-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 12.07.2012 17:09, schrieb andrea crotti: Yes sorry you said that, but I meant this Depends On : linux-api-headers=3.4 tzdata can the linux-api-headers be a different version of the running kernel? Of course. In fact, you must not change the headers unless you plan to bootstrap a new

Re: [arch-general] arch with a specific kernel version

2012-07-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 12.07.2012 17:34, schrieb andrea crotti: Ok thanks, I'm trying now but the vanilla kernel doesn't compile. Looking around in the forum it appears to be the gcc version too new and I'm installing gcc 4.5, let's see if I get it working.. Did you use the latest version (as in: 2.6.32.59)?

Re: [arch-general] Arch's policy on the LTS kernel

2012-07-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 12.07.2012 18:02, schrieb Diogo Sousa: Hi, I was unable to find any information regarding the Arch's policy on the LTS kernel, specifically, what determines when the current lts version is replaced by the next lts version? I don't think there is a written policy, but: In the past, we

Re: [arch-general] [pre...@gmail.com: [arch-dev-public] [newsitem] grub/grub2]

2012-07-11 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 11.07.2012 16:24, schrieb Arvid Warnecke: What I do not understand is how much GRUB legacy is not supported anymore? It won't get removed from the system, but will I have to do any manual steps when updating the kernel or something like that? At the moment I don't see any reason for trying

Re: [arch-general] Why Multiple Forums for different issues? Arch Linux/ARM?

2012-07-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.07.2012 22:03, schrieb Kevin Mihelich: Around March/April 2011, we contacted Aaron Griffin and got explicit permission to rename our distribution to Arch Linux ARM since we were rapidly expanding our focus from plug computers to a wide variety of ARM platforms, and had also brought our

Re: [arch-general] Why Multiple Forums for different issues? Arch Linux/ARM?

2012-07-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.07.2012 18:23, schrieb Mateusz Loskot: p.s. I agree the official logo makes the ArchLinux ARM status confusing. Maybe we should ask them to use a slightly modified logo (maybe include a microchip into the logo, or another small device). I don't remember what the agreement with Arch Linux

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

2012-07-03 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 03.07.2012 01:16, schrieb Karol Babioch: First of all I'm wondering why HOME_URL is set to the plain HTTP version of archlinux.org, whereas the other two links are set to the secure HTTPS version. This doesn't seem to be consequent. The example shows that Fedora is using the HTTPS version

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

2012-07-03 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 03.07.2012 12:51, schrieb Karol Babioch: Hi, Am 03.07.2012 10:28, schrieb Thomas Bächler: The bbs and bug tracker are https-only. If you would go to the http link, you would be redirected to https. A user cannot login on the main website or send any sensitive information to it, so

Re: [arch-general] Pacman behaviour comparing numerical versions for package upgrades

2012-06-29 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 29.06.2012 07:50, schrieb Myra Nelson: I have a question about pacman's behaviour regarding packges to be updated. According to $: man pacman You can also use pacman -Su to upgrade all packages that are out of date. See Sync Options below. When upgrading, pacman performs version

Re: [arch-general] Campaign against Secure Boot

2012-06-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 23.06.2012 04:09, schrieb Manolo Martínez: Is Arch going to sign [this petition](http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement)? I, for one humble user, would like it (us, whatever) to. Manolo While I won't answer your question, I have this to say: For a

Re: [arch-general] Campaign against Secure Boot

2012-06-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.06.2012 18:37, schrieb Kevin Chadwick: If I understand it right, in Setup Mode, you can either boot any non-signed operating system, or you can import your own keys into the firmware, so that you can sign your own bootloaders. For me, this is enough to not care about Secure Boot.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] x264 and ffmpeg rebuild

2012-06-21 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 21.06.2012 11:17, schrieb Sergej Pupykin: At Thu, 21 Jun 2012 02:52:18 +0300, Ionut Biru wrote: why did you bother to ask us for opinions if you don't even wait to see what we have to say. Because of I can remove it. Putting package into staging is not too fatal action) Agreed.

Re: [arch-general] Black screen with linux-3.4.2

2012-06-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.06.2012 16:22, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/xf86-video-nv/ http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/xf86-video-nv/ I hope it won't be dropped by Arch. Other distros dropped it. It will be dropped, as it isn't developped anymore and will soon

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] time to drop openjdk6 ?

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 13.06.2012 21:57, schrieb Chris Sakalis: Hello, not a very important application, and there may be some workarounds, but with openjdk7 Minecraft [1] fails to load the correct bundled libraries on 64bit. From the exception, it appears that it actually tries to load the 32bit libs, but it

Re: [arch-general] Minecraft on x86_64 with OpenJDK7

2012-06-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 14.06.2012 11:19, schrieb Dennis Herbrich: I occasionally do have focus problems with the login text entry fields, but that's a different issue with LWJGL, if I remember correctly. As a workaround, click into the fields FAST and you'll get focus to enter your credentials. ;) This should be

Re: [arch-general] linux-3.4.0-1 enters [testing]

2012-05-22 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 22.05.2012 06:12, schrieb ashim acharya: Issues with usb devices: 0425:f102 Motorola Semiconductors HK, Ltd G-Tech U+P Wireless Mouse -does not work. An added logitech usb wireless mouse worked though. Xorg.0.log-no errors- says mouse was added: (**) Option config_info

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] linux-3.4.0-1 enters [testing]

2012-05-21 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 21.05.2012 16:54, schrieb Frederic Bezies: Got a warning on start : [7.552939] microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin [7.554370] microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin I got his in /etc/rc.conf : MODULES=(fuse powernow-k8 kvm-amd

Re: [arch-general] netcfg status?

2012-05-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.05.2012 13:16, schrieb Geert Hendrickx: Hi, What is the status of netcfg 2.8.x? When will it hit [core] ? I have been using it succesfully on my workstation and on two VPS (static IPv4 + IPv6 profiles). Geert Jouke, should we move it? In general, if you want the package

Re: [arch-general] [arch-projects] netcfg status?

2012-05-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.05.2012 16:38, schrieb Jouke Witteveen: The latest version is in testing for no more than five days now. I sent a mail regarding the move to core: http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-projects/2012-April/002765.html Not much has happened since and I am quite confident in the state

Re: [arch-general] Switching back to udisk1

2012-05-04 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 04.05.2012 11:46, schrieb Kevin Chadwick: http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/; I just read this post, and it is what you expect from the ignorant guru: A rant. It is simply general FUD with no concrete examples or anything remotely substantial. Although

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] cpufrequtils in [core]

2012-04-19 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 19.04.2012 01:21, schrieb Seblu: As far as I'm concerned the replacement can stay in community, but if anyone feel otherwise I'd be ok with moving and adopting it. If you move linux-tools source package into core/extra it make sense to merge it with linux package. This would force moving

Re: [arch-general] cpufrequtils in [core]

2012-04-18 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 08.04.2012 18:08, schrieb Leonid Isaev: Hi, Cpufrequtils 008 in [core] has long been orphaned and, as you know, actually deprecated upstream since linux 3.1 (http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.1). Instead, there is cpupower (aka cpufrequtils 009) included in linux/tools and available

Re: [arch-general] Funny issue with bash-completion and __git_ps1

2012-03-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.03.2012 08:05, schrieb martin kalcher: Hey hey After the last bash-completion and git update there is a funny issue with the Git Prompt [1]: __git_ps1 is not defined The bash-completion update moved most completion scripts to /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/ and sources

Re: [arch-general] kernel 3.3 khubd problem/freezing failed

2012-03-27 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 27.03.2012 14:00, schrieb Genes MailLists: On 03/21/2012 11:56 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42975 To add to this - I get an oops on shutdown as well. Fresh boot and sleep/shutdown is not a problem. It seems to need aging and oddly happens

Re: [arch-general] How to download .sigs into CacheDir with pacman

2012-03-22 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 22.03.2012 18:05, schrieb Dennis 'Gyroplast' Herbrich: I haven't found a way to reliably download the official package signature files along with the packages themselves through creative use of pacman. I do not REALLY want to fetch the .sig files in another step from the mirror I am using,

Re: [arch-general] Can't boot, root device not found

2012-03-20 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 20.03.2012 00:43, schrieb Josh Silard: Thomas, Loading the modules did the trick and I was able to mount the sda3 to /root and it booted like normal. Thanks a bunch for the help on this Josh You were lucky. Can you please post the relevant part from /var/log/pacman.log where you

Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable

2012-03-20 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 19.03.2012 11:54, schrieb Joerg Schilling: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote: Track01 on dvd's always comes up with unknown length when trying to burn a dvd with wodim. That's out of two different containers of dvd's too. These dvd's are single-sided so no danger of blue ray

Re: [arch-general] Can't boot, root device not found

2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 19.03.2012 17:44, schrieb Josh Silard: Thanks for the help. Does anybody know if there is a way to do this without a CD because I have no way to burn one right now. No. Apparently, some part of your initramfs got borked after the upgrade, so you cannot access anything. It depends on what is

Re: [arch-general] mkinitcpio

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 02.03.2012 14:58, schrieb Simon Perry: I have removed ext4 from my MODULES line, and removed the filesystems hook in order to get rid of the dupe message. If you don't have the filesystem hook, and you don't have ext4 it in MODULES, ext4 will be missing from the initramfs and you won't be

Re: [arch-general] mkinitcpio

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 02.03.2012 15:24, schrieb Simon Perry: On 02/03/12, Tom Gundersen wrote: | Unless you have ext2/3, as those are now aliases for ext4. Cheers, that explains it. Example: http://pastebin.com/f760JeFA So, in order to make things nice, I should just use the filesystems hook, and not

Re: [arch-general] mkinitcpio

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 02.03.2012 15:35, schrieb Simon Perry: On 02/03/12, Thomas Bächler wrote: | Actually, except for 'atl1', all those module specs are unnecessary. Booting is scary. If I take out all the modules except atl1, leave my hooks as is, and my machine doesn't boot after a mkinitcpio + reboot

Re: [arch-general] mkinitcpio

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 02.03.2012 16:45, schrieb Simon Perry: Filesystems hook is necessary if you want to leave MODULES bare. Which I told you in my first reply. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] mkinitcpio

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 02.03.2012 18:12, schrieb Myra Nelson: Back to my original question. my box - HOOKS=base udev autodetect pata scsi sata filesystems usb usbinput fsck numlock new box -HOOKS=base udev autodetect pata scsi sata filesystems usb usbinput fsck Modules in my rc.conf - MODULES=(e1000

Re: [arch-general] mkinitcpio

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 02.03.2012 18:22, schrieb Tom Gundersen: Assuming you have ext[234] in your MODULES array in mkinitcpio.conf, then yes, that's the reason :-) (you pasted your MODULES array from rc.conf above, which is not involved in mkinitcpio). If, on the other hand, you don't have any fs modules in

Re: [arch-general] Using Shift + F1 on XFCE

2012-02-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.02.2012 10:14, schrieb Vitor Garcia: Good morning. I have an Arch Linux x86_64 installation on my laptop, and I use a couple of programs that requires me to use Shift + F1 to start a few functions, but every time I do that I'm dropped to the Virtual Console, and then I have to use

Re: [arch-general] Intel AES-NI module doesn't get loaded automatically

2012-02-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.02.2012 02:15, schrieb Karol Babioch: Hi, my hardware supports the AES-NI instruction set, which is a performance boost. I'm pretty sure that the appropriate module (aesni_intel) was loaded automatically in the past, which seems not to be the case anymore. There was a bug in kmod

Re: [arch-general] Intel AES-NI module doesn't get loaded automatically [SOLVED]

2012-02-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.02.2012 16:18, schrieb Karol Babioch: Am 16.02.2012 13:44, schrieb Thomas Bächler: There was a bug in kmod about this, but it should be fixed now. Make sure you have the latest kmod and update your initramfs, too. Yeah, 3.2.6-1 seems to fix it. Was it fixed with 3.2.5 already

Re: [arch-general] Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]

2012-02-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.02.2012 03:50, schrieb gt: Maybe this thread can help. Many people seem to have problems with udev recently. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134012 This is unrelated. Please do your research before making suggestions. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]

2012-02-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.02.2012 01:45, schrieb Rob Lewis: I am running into an issue I have never really run into in the past with my current laptop. Upon installing arch linux I reboot and face the following issue which hangs forever during the bot process: Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY] No

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Xorg 1.12 moves soon to testing for stabilization phase

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 13.02.2012 00:28, schrieb Thomas Bächler: Am 13.02.2012 00:24, schrieb Thomas Bächler: Am 13.02.2012 00:17, schrieb Ben Price: In case it helps, here's another datapoint I am also seeing these issues. (1,2,3 as in Thomas' email) 1) In addition to circular scrolling being reversed, so

Re: [arch-general] Xorg 1.12 moves soon to testing for stabilization phase

2012-02-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 12.02.2012 10:39, schrieb Andreas Radke: New Xorg has Xinput 2.2, Mesa 8.0 and many major library updates. Expect some bugs and broken packages. Most recent Xorg stuff is used in Fedora RawHide for a while where fixes can be found. Most noticeable changes will be: - Mesa 8.0 drops 3D

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Xorg 1.12 moves soon to testing for stabilization phase

2012-02-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 13.02.2012 00:17, schrieb Ben Price: In case it helps, here's another datapoint I am also seeing these issues. (1,2,3 as in Thomas' email) 1) In addition to circular scrolling being reversed, so is the right-edge vertical scrolling. I didn't notice this at first, but yes, same here.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Xorg 1.12 moves soon to testing for stabilization phase

2012-02-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 13.02.2012 00:24, schrieb Thomas Bächler: Am 13.02.2012 00:17, schrieb Ben Price: In case it helps, here's another datapoint I am also seeing these issues. (1,2,3 as in Thomas' email) 1) In addition to circular scrolling being reversed, so is the right-edge vertical scrolling. I

Re: [arch-general] Alps touchpad problems

2012-02-11 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 11.02.2012 15:30, schrieb Caio Geraldi Conechoni: You could, just like i'm doing, hold kernel upgrades so you don't need to rebuild the package every time... Just a suggestion :) You can put the module to /lib/modules/extramodules-3.2-ARCH/ and then use it will all 3.2 versions. But it is

Re: [arch-general] What hapenned to netcfg ?

2012-02-07 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 07.02.2012 10:56, schrieb Alfredo Palhares: Hello, I was just talking about this on #archlinux-offtopic. No one is acepting patches[1] to the netcfg[2] project. I aplied as mainteiner when help was asked[3] (as masterkorp) . No replies. Can i apply again ? Is anyone taking care of

Re: [arch-general] What hapenned to netcfg ?

2012-02-07 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 07.02.2012 18:40, schrieb Leonid Isaev: In the bug reports [1] I didn't see many patches... Have you tried contacting the existing maintainer directly? There is no maintainer. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] bashrc path not being enforced

2012-01-27 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 27.01.2012 15:20, schrieb gt: Hello list Earlier I had appended my personal bin directory to /etc/profile's PATH, and it worked perfectly. Now, i am trying to add PATH to my user's .bashrc, but it doesn't come into effect. Though adding it to .bash_profile works. I am using urxvt and

Re: [arch-general] FS#28008 - Bypass screensaver/locker program on xorg 1.11 and up

2012-01-20 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 20.01.2012 02:08, schrieb Tavian Barnes: IMO, it's not an X.Org or configuration bug, it's a bug in all the screen lockers. http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/217 This post is horribly wrong. 1) The documentation cited is from Xorg 6.8, which is terribly old. 2) The options cited do

Re: [arch-general] net-pf-X aliases in linux 3.2

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 19.01.2012 23:31, schrieb Leonid Isaev: I am trying to find the mapping between actual modules and net-pf-X aliases which used to be in /usr/include/linux/socket.h but not anymore... Why would they be there? Does anybody know where these aliases are defined now? grep net-pf-

Re: [arch-general] makepkg having troubles with extracting some sources after pacman 4 update

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 20.01.2012 00:02, schrieb Andrzej Giniewicz: today one of users of one of my packages (daggerfall in AUR) noticed, and I confirmed, that makepkg wasn't able to extract needed files, while it was working perfectly for pacman 3.x. The message is - Extracting dos32a-912-bin.zip with bsdtar

Re: [arch-general] Dependency: pyalpm: requires pacman3.6 (workaround install pyalpm?)

2012-01-18 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 17.01.2012 23:20, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: Am 17.01.2012 21:32, schrieb Karol Blazewicz: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:26 PM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. This mail didn't make much sense to me untill the very last line ... You can solve

Re: [arch-general] Dependency: pyalpm: requires pacman3.6 (workaround install pyalpm?)

2012-01-18 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 18.01.2012 15:54, schrieb Magnus Therning: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 15:46, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 17.01.2012 23:20, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: The best way is to add pyalpm to SyncFirst in pacman.conf and just run -Syu. If I run into SyncFirst bugs, I always run

Re: [arch-general] pacman 4 in [core]

2012-01-17 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.01.2012 23:31, schrieb Mauro Santos: The first one used to be commented in the config file and the second one used to be in the documentation if I remember correctly. Both are gone from the pacman.conf man page, 'ILoveCandy' still works though :p Are these omissions intentional or are

Re: [arch-general] Screen blanking

2012-01-17 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 17.01.2012 11:58, schrieb Clive Cooper: where is the best place to put xset -dpms i do not want anything telling me when to turn the monitors off when i want them off i will turn them off Not sure if this is any help but to keep the diosplay alive no matter what I have been using this

Re: [arch-general] pacman 4 in [core]

2012-01-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.01.2012 22:12, schrieb Karol Blazewicz: Is it for real or is it an error? I know that you should merge pacnew files first, I'm fine with the move, but something tells me we're going to see many users baffled by pacman throwing never-before seen errors. Not that I mind Arch being a

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.01.2012 21:48, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: In short: It's not worth trying. Agreed. I consider this impossible without a lot of time and intimite knowledge of the various problems that will occur. Actually, the only way I can imagine is booting a recent image and upgrading from there.

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.01.2012 21:58, schrieb Thomas Misilo: I was only trying the archboot cd, which wasn't working. Archboot is broken by design in that way. It works, if you have massive amount of memory (I think at least 1GB). From your first mail: Before you ask WTF, I just want to say that this is the

Re: [arch-general] New LTS kernel soon ?

2012-01-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 10.01.2012 09:04, schrieb Bernardo Barros: Looks like 3.0 is our new LTS 3.0.y - this is the new longterm kernel release, it will be maintained for 2 years at the minimum by me. 2.6.32.y - this is the previous longterm kernel release. It is approaching it's

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.01.2012 04:58, schrieb Jonathan Vasquez: Hello everyone, So I've been experimenting on removing my use of initrd and using the kernel directly. My current setup is the following: GPT, LVM, GRUB2 (So I can boot my partitions that are inside the LVM). /dev/sda1 BIOS Boot

Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for kernel-ARCH and kernel-rt

2012-01-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 06.01.2012 09:34, schrieb Ralf Madorf: regarding to the rt issues I followed the explanations at http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12132 . I still get an issues with http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32908 . It's not only the described problem. If I boot 3.1.7-1-Arch I get

Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for kernel-ARCH and kernel-rt

2012-01-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 06.01.2012 11:17, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: Von: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org im Auftrag von Thomas Bächler Gesendet: Fr 1/6/2012 10:25 Apparently, the nvidia-all PKGBUILD does it wrong. I don't know why it exists - you can install nvidia from [extra] and create a package for nvidia-rt

Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for kernel-ARCH and kernel-rt

2012-01-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 06.01.2012 16:32, schrieb Ralf Madorf: [ 8.889] Current Operating System: Linux archlinux 3.0-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Dec 26 13:03:51 CET 2011 x86_64 The -rt kernel package still uses the old versioning scheme, where the patchlevel is removed from the version string. This means that the

Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for kernel-ARCH and kernel-rt

2012-01-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 06.01.2012 16:57, schrieb Ralf Madorf: On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 16:47 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 06.01.2012 16:32, schrieb Ralf Madorf: [ 8.889] Current Operating System: Linux archlinux 3.0-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Dec 26 13:03:51 CET 2011 x86_64 The -rt kernel package still uses

Re: [arch-general] Need a little help getting started with contributing

2012-01-05 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 04.01.2012 20:54, schrieb Florian Pritz: cat =git-archprojects #!/bin/bash if (( $# 2 )); then echo usage: ${0##*/}: project options to git send-email exit 1 fi exec git format-patch --to arch-proje...@archlinux.org --subject-prefix=$1] [PATCH ${@:2} ## This creates

Re: [arch-general] linux-api-headers in core is 3.1.5 while linux is 3.1.6

2012-01-05 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 05.01.2012 16:01, schrieb Alex Ferrando: Right now I've noticed the following: linux-api-headers 3.1.6-1 linux 3.1.7-1 Maybe is my little understanding of the situation, but isn't linux-api-headers behind what it (appears to me that it) should be? I apologize in advance if the

Re: [arch-general] Terrible flash performance

2012-01-04 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 04.01.2012 11:51, schrieb Manne Merak: Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the years. Not sure how many are still valid. Section Device ... Option RenderAccel True Option TripleBuffer True Option PixmapCacheSize 30 Option OnDemandVBlankInterrupts True

Re: [arch-general] archiso rebuild

2012-01-04 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 04.01.2012 17:32, schrieb gt: Hello folks I was wondering if there is a way to rebuild a custom live disc, using archiso, without having to download all the packages over again. The problem is that after making a few changes to the configuration, mainly inside root-image directory, i

Re: [arch-general] unionfs or aufs, available somewhere?

2012-01-03 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 03.01.2012 11:26, schrieb Magnus Therning: Is either of them easily available somewhere? I'd like to use the `union-type=` option of `schroot`, but so far it looks like I'll have to get a new kernel from AUR and compile aufs3 myself to set it up. Is neither of these rather useful

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