[arch-general] Xorg Segfault on Console Switch

2020-08-26 Thread Yaro Kasear
I seem to be having an odd issue with Xorg since updating to 1.20.9. I tend to be logged onto Xorg across more than one user based on what kind of task I need, and switch between them via CTRL+ALT+F1/F2/F3. Since the update this morning it seems to have started causing segfaults on Xorg the

Re: [arch-general] No login after update

2020-08-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 8/19/20 3:41 PM, Morten Linderud via arch-general wrote: > https://www.archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.8.html#_handling_config_files_a_id_hcf_a > > Can you please read this section a few times before writing more emails? > I see. I was sure pacman made no comparisons at all to previous config

Re: [arch-general] No login after update

2020-08-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 3:32 PM Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 3:17 PM Archange wrote: > >> >> Le 20/08/2020 à 00:04, Yaro Kasear a écrit : >> > On 8/19/20 2:56 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: >> >> On 8/19/20 2:48 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-g

Re: [arch-general] No login after update

2020-08-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 3:17 PM Archange wrote: > > Le 20/08/2020 à 00:04, Yaro Kasear a écrit : > > On 8/19/20 2:56 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > >> On 8/19/20 2:48 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: > >>> Em agosto 19, 2020 16:37 Yaro Kasear escrev

Re: [arch-general] No login after update

2020-08-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 8/19/20 2:56 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > On 8/19/20 2:48 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: >> Em agosto 19, 2020 16:37 Yaro Kasear escreveu: >>> I've always questioned the wisdom of dropping a .pacnew just when the >>> file is different from the defaul

Re: [arch-general] No login after update

2020-08-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 8/19/20 2:48 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: > Em agosto 19, 2020 16:37 Yaro Kasear escreveu: >> >> I've always questioned the wisdom of dropping a .pacnew just when the >> file is different from the default. There's really no reason for it >> consi

Re: [arch-general] No login after update

2020-08-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 8/19/20 2:13 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: > Em agosto 19, 2020 16:02 Manuel Reimer escreveu: >> Hello, >> >> Some minutes ago I did a regular system update and after that decided >> to reboot. After reboot I was unable to log into my system. After >> fiddling a bit I rebooted

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 6/2/20 1:09 PM, Kusoneko wrote: > On June 2, 2020 5:58:51 PM UTC, Hanipaganda via arch-general > wrote: >> >> >> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:10 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: >&

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 6/2/20 12:58 PM, Hanipaganda via arch-general wrote: > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:10 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > >> On 6/2/20 3:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: >> >&

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 6/2/20 3:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 00:53:02 -0400, Olivier Langlois wrote: >> https://thenationalpulse.com/ > Isn't this a right-wing propaganda media? IIUC you are so far > the only one making a political issue out of a sincere exchange > of thoughts,

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 6/1/20 6:43 PM, Ricardo Band wrote: > On June 1, 2020 11:18:50 PM UTC, Amir Fletcher via arch-general > wrote: >> Recently, the Arch reddit logo was changed to a rainbow. This is for "pride >> month". It is forcing a political view on all of the users who did not ask >> for this. > I'm

Re: [arch-general] Problem with reflector

2020-03-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 3/7/20 11:21 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > On 3/7/20 11:53 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: >>> Thanks for your reply. If I put this in a bash script, will it reset once >>> the script is done running? >>> >> I suspect it will if you drop the 'export' di

Re: [arch-general] Problem with reflector

2020-03-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 3/7/20 10:51 PM, karx via arch-general wrote: > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 9:59 PM Yaro Kasear wrote: > >> On 3/7/20 9:53 PM, karx via arch-general wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 9:50 PM Neven Sajko wrote: >>> >>>> I have not fully understood your s

Re: [arch-general] Problem with reflector

2020-03-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 3/7/20 9:53 PM, karx via arch-general wrote: > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 9:50 PM Neven Sajko wrote: > >> I have not fully understood your situation, but can you not just >> change the PATH environment variable? >> > No. I need python for other projects, and would much rather use a version >

Re: [arch-general] Package guidelines 

2019-10-14 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 10/14/19 3:59 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella via arch-general wrote: > Video-reply For someone who "can handle disagreement" like you claim in your video, you sure are protesting quite a bit over it. I also have a hard time someone is really extending a hand in good

Re: [arch-general] Package guidelines 

2019-10-14 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 10/14/19 10:41 AM, Alberto Salvia Novella via arch-general wrote: > As said, blocked the latest three. > > We can either have a constructive conversation or it's over, that > simple. Make your choice. > Blocking people who respond negatively to your proposal is a great way to get people to

Re: [arch-general] `base` group replaced by mandatory `base` package - manual intervention required

2019-10-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 10/9/19 9:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: > On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 10:19:38 -0400, Genes Lists via arch-general wrote: >> On 10/9/19 10:11 AM, Tinu Weber wrote: >>> https://web.archive.org/web/20190722121302/https://www.archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/base/ >>> >> Perfect - thank you! >

Re: [arch-general] `base` group replaced by mandatory `base` package - manual intervention required

2019-10-08 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 10/8/19 1:45 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 10/08/2019 01:33 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >> Because this is not about containers. There are tons of things in the >> old base group which I don't want installed on my heavyweight X11 >> desktop which is used for media consumption. >>

Re: [arch-general] Bios Raid (Fake Raid) and Virtual Raid (Software Raid)

2019-09-03 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 9/3/19 7:26 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 09/02/2019 08:07 AM, Kelly Rogers via arch-general wrote: >> Hi, >> Can you tell me what is capable to do Arch Linux: Bios Raid (Fake Raid) and >> Virtual Raid (Software Raid)? >> Thank you! > Forget fake-raid -- dmraid (though I have used it for

Re: [arch-general] RAID10 + dmcrypt/LUKS + ext4: expanding?

2017-10-24 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 10/24/2017 08:53 PM, L. Rose wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I want to setup a couple of drives using RAID10 with mdadm. On top of > /dev/md0, I want to setup one large dmcrypt/LUKS encrypted ext4 volume. > As Arch wiki reads, this seems to be possible. But what about expanding > that volume later

Re: [arch-general] Dual boot issue, windows doesn't show up on grub

2017-07-25 Thread Yaro Kasear
I have found it sometimes helps to mount the "Microsoft Reserved" or "Microsoft System" partition before running grub-mkconfig. The os-prober package can be really dimwitted sometimes when it comes to doing scans on its own like that. On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf via

Re: [arch-general] Weird reaction to pull request over at Arch Linux ARM

2017-01-27 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Christopher Reimer wrote: > Hello list, > > I'd like to get some feedback on this pull request discussion over at Arch > Linux ARM: https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs/pull/1444 (Backup: > http://pastebin.com/x8H0mNiE) > > Short summary:

Re: [arch-general] Installation: How to get HDD > LUKS > GPT working in a clean way

2016-11-27 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 11/27/2016 08:18 PM, Merlin Büge wrote: Where is /boot physically located? Can grub2 boot from LV these days? /boot is physically located on my only storage drive in the laptop. It's not a seperate partition, just on the Btrfs filesystem. Can grub2 boot from LV these days? I don't know

Re: [arch-general] Installation: How to get HDD > LUKS > GPT working in a clean way

2016-11-27 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 11/27/2016 08:09 PM, Merlin Büge wrote: Hi Yaro, thanks for your answer! I'd set up two partitions: Your EFI system partition and the LUKS container. Then inside LUKS, format the whole thing as LVM and then set up from there, rather than make the LUKS container another GPT "disk." Then

Re: [arch-general] Installation: How to get HDD > LUKS > GPT working in a clean way

2016-11-27 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 11/27/2016 09:48 AM, Merlin Büge wrote: Hey everybody! I'm currently installing Arch on my laptop (Thinkpad T400), and have decided for a rather unusual partition scheme: A single LUKS container directly on the disk (SSD) with a GPT partition table and two partitions inside it: one for

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
Consider also that getting PowerShell doesn't solve the "how do I" problem. People who don't know PS would still have to look up how to do the same thing on there. If you're already familiar with Linux, and chances are you are if you're using Archlinux, then PowerShell won't solve any problems

Re: [arch-general] Error message with full disk encryption

2016-02-13 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sat, 2016-02-13 at 13:47 +0100, Carsten Mattner wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 10:49 AM, PeLo L wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've followed the arch wiki and deployed a full disk encrypted > > install. > > Everything works fine and am able to boot properly into the >

Re: [arch-general] Alternative init system proposal

2016-02-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
I still don't get what makes OpenRC so great. Doesn't it still depend entirely on SysV Init? That ALONE makes me want to keep it off my system. If it makes us fall back on an init system that is frankly backward and was badly in need of replacement then I don't see why it should be considered an

Re: [arch-general] libreoffice not work

2015-10-12 Thread Yaro Kasear
It seems like bad form to enable unstable features for a package in [extra]. Shouldn't it be set to enable the GTK2 VCL by default? Yaro On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:51 +0800, mudongliang wrote: > > On 10/13/2015 11:38 AM, Jens Adam wrote: > > Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:29:18 +0800 > > mudongliang

Re: [arch-general] systemd new dependencies impede using OpenRC

2015-07-03 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Jul 3, 2015 6:10 AM, LoneVVolf lonew...@xs4all.nl wrote: Some general comments : - Openrc is a replacement for sysv init, not an addition. OpenRC runs on SysV Init last I checked, as OpenRC is just highly polished initscripts. How is that a replacement instead of an addition? - openrc

Re: [arch-general] systemd new dependencies impede using OpenRC

2015-07-03 Thread Yaro Kasear
I can't overtly fault the logic in that blog post for the most part. However he does still basically toe the Unix philosophy line (Talking about modularity and such.) The thing that bothers me most about this document though is how he dismisses systemd's legitimate, if not unique, features as

Re: [arch-general] systemd new dependencies impede using OpenRC

2015-07-02 Thread Yaro Kasear
I personally prefer systemd over the alternatives. I grant there's considerable feature creep, but the people who complain a lot either don't offer an alternative, or the one alternative they offer is the frankly broken system Linux had been using since the dawn of time. I wouldn't mind some

Re: [arch-general] Problems using AUR since upgrade of pacman db version

2015-01-01 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 01/01/2015 10:41 AM, Rich wrote: On 01/01/2015 10:27 AM, Troy Engel wrote: On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Geoff capstho...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Not intending to contradict, but rebuilding cower worked for me. I used a clean tarball and did makepackage --skipinteg (see the discussion

Re: [arch-general] bacman failed to set file flags bsdtar error

2014-07-16 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 07/16/2014 02:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: What's the meaning of this [1]? Regards, Ralf [1] $ bacman ardour == Entering fakeroot environment == Package: ardour-2.8.16-1 - Copying package files... etc/: Failed to set file flags bsdtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors.

Re: [arch-general] Troubles with ALSA

2012-12-31 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 12/31/2012 11:07 AM, Jack Stanek wrote: Hello all, I've been having problems with ALSA recently. Whenever I reboot my computer or wake it up from sleep, ALSA sets the volume of the speakers (and only the speakers) to zero. The headphones and master volume remain normal, but no sound will

Re: [arch-general] Archlinux is for everyone

2011-07-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, July 09, 2011 01:11:22 PM Kyle wrote: Apple devices stopped looking appealing to me when people around me started getting them and I found out how much control Apple has over what people do with their devices, especially i-devices, iPod, iPad, iPhone, etc. And now that they have

Re: [arch-general] fbsplash fails to start after pacman -Syu

2011-07-06 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 09:31:56 PM Madhurya Kakati wrote: Hi, After a recent system upgrade fbsplash fails to run during boot. However while shutting down i can see the splash. Its only during the start up that I can't see it. This is the /var/log/boot some days before the upgrade

Re: [arch-general] Systemd! [WAS: arch-dev-public] Welcoming Dave Reisner to the dev staff

2011-06-21 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Tuesday, June 21, 2011 05:33:50 PM Oon-Ee Ng wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: Please welcome Dave to our development team. He has been a frequent contributor (and reviewer of patches!) to Pacman, has been a TU for a little bit, and has taken

Re: [arch-general] Systemd! [WAS: arch-dev-public] Welcoming Dave Reisner to the dev staff

2011-06-21 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Tuesday, June 21, 2011 06:08:03 PM Thomas S Hatch wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: On Tuesday, June 21, 2011 05:33:50 PM Oon-Ee Ng wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: Please welcome Dave to our

Re: [arch-general] Systemd! [WAS: arch-dev-public] Welcoming Dave Reisner to the dev staff

2011-06-21 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Tuesday, June 21, 2011 07:56:25 PM Bernardo Barros wrote: here too :-) +700 on this.

Re: [arch-general] weird problem

2011-06-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:59:00 AM Madhurya Kakati wrote: On 06/19/2011 10:13 PM, Mauro Santos wrote: Really silly questions: - Are you using any repos other than [core], [extra], [community] and [multilib]? - Are you using any pacman wrappers? I'm asking because pacman can't find

Re: [arch-general] netcfg 2.6 release

2011-06-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, June 19, 2011 04:23:45 PM Rémy Oudompheng wrote: Hello, netcfg 2.6 has been released and pushed in [testing]. The following features has been added since the last release: - add support for IPv6 configuration (FS#18699) - add support for static routes configuration (FS#18700)

Re: [arch-general] Anybody else have problems with the new Nvidia drivers (275.09.07-1)

2011-06-18 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, June 18, 2011 04:57:07 AM Richard Schütz wrote: Am 18.06.2011 11:29, schrieb Martti Kühne: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Richard Schützr.sc...@t-online.de wrote: Am 18.06.2011 09:08, schrieb Dan Vratil: I don't think so. Epiphany is based on WebKit these days. And because

Re: [arch-general] Anybody else have problems with the new Nvidia drivers (275.09.07-1)

2011-06-17 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Friday, June 17, 2011 12:55:01 PM Ionut Biru wrote: On 06/17/2011 08:46 PM, Pico Geyer wrote: Hi all, As the title of this email suggests I'm having trouble with the new Nvidia driver. I've attached my Xorg log, as I'm sure that there are a log of people who understand the ouput

Re: [arch-general] Anybody else have problems with the new Nvidia drivers (275.09.07-1)

2011-06-17 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Friday, June 17, 2011 05:35:06 PM Martti Kühne wrote: snip Are we sure ths is a bug with the nVidia driver? Can someone load that image who isn't using it? confirming display screwage with firefox on an onboard nvidia chip. nasty. 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-10 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, June 09, 2011 21:22:50 Timothy L. wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me wrote: On Jun 9, 2011 5:50 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:36:21 -0500 schrieb C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me: does this

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-10 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Friday, June 10, 2011 04:26:21 Robert Howard wrote: Why not just copy the old kernel image, modules and initrd image somewhere by hand before you upgrade kernels. If we try to make this automated it isn't going to be kiss. I used to do this way back in the day by including the entire kernel

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-10 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Friday, June 10, 2011 05:48:57 Vic Demuzere wrote: On Jun 10, 2011 12:43 PM, Martti Kühne mysat...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:36 AM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me wrote: snip what if we (optionally) stored the original images _inside_ the new one? the

Re: [arch-general] {external, general}ized hooks in key packages [kernel26, ???] (WAS: Re: Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs)

2011-06-10 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Friday, June 10, 2011 23:36:18 C Anthony Risinger wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Mauro Santos registo.maill...@gmail.com wrote: Arch users have lived without the last good known kernel so far and without an -lts kernel until recently. this applies to technology in general --

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, June 09, 2011 05:31:06 Paul Gideon Dann wrote: On Thursday 09 June 2011 00:04:09 Heiko Baums wrote: schrieb Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com: Such a patch would also have to copy the modules (which aren't under kernel26's 'purview'). For example, nvidia gets upgraded on a

Re: [arch-general] After the recent linux kernel update booting fails if usb disks are present in /etc/fstab

2011-06-06 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Monday, June 06, 2011 07:39:03 Hector Martinez-Seara wrote: Thanks Tom for taking your time to answer, I will follow your advises to try to stabilize my system. I will try to downgrade my system also. If I see that this helps I will let you know, just in case this is a bug an not a simple

Re: [arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs

2011-06-06 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Monday, June 06, 2011 11:34:53 Thomas Dziedzic wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Tavian Barnes taviana...@tavianator.com wrote: On 6 June 2011 10:02, KESHAV P.R. skodab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Since the next kernel will be 3.0 , the kernel26 naming is meaningless

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-26 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, May 26, 2011 02:57:49 Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 26.05.2011 06:28, schrieb XeCycle: Perhaps we may provide alternative kernels? With names like these, we may get a brand new project named Arch Operating System, providing Linux, BSD, Hurd or even more as kernels, and users are

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:20:46 Bernardo Barros wrote: Hi there, There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is going to be 3.0. Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to modify it anyway. Why not just 'linux 3.0'? Just an idea.. since we

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:14:55 Sander Jansen wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 25.05.2011 17:43, schrieb jesse jaara: This is from recent kerbel mailing list post. A voice inside Torvals head is telling hin that it would be time to

Re: [arch-general] Cannot Find Desktop in GNOME3

2011-05-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Monday, May 09, 2011 12:53:55 Mauro Santos wrote: On 09-05-2011 18:45, Filip Filipov wrote: [...] from what i see accessibility, is broken a lot in gnome 3 and i hope they will fix that in 3.2 A little bit off-topic, but how often is the 'Fun statistics' [1] changing . I ask

Re: [arch-general] Cannot Find Desktop in GNOME3

2011-05-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Monday, May 09, 2011 14:46:11 Steve Holmes wrote: Thanks for telling me about the desktop being gone. I really wondered and am a bit surprised as I thought most people valued and used a desktop area quite a bit. Yes, I opened up my home directory from the places and then opened the

Re: [arch-general] Drop non-free ?! (Was: Commit in ffmpeg/trunk)

2011-05-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:26:54 Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from C Anthony Risinger's message of 2011-05-07 18:24:38 +0200: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.de wrote: On Sat, 7 May 2011 12:05:21 -0400, Loui Chang wrote: On Sat 07 May 2011 18:32

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-21 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, April 21, 2011 01:48:04 Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: On 21.04.2011 08:32, Kaiting Chen wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:32 AM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On 04/06/2011 10:34 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: Upstream stability makes sense. If redhat is behind

Re: [arch-general] What are people's opinions about this?

2011-04-13 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 20:45:32 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: This feature request: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23747 Greg Is this some sort of configuration utility for Xorg? A little background would be nice.

Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3 + KDE 4 are both large disappointments.

2011-04-10 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, April 10, 2011 14:50:41 Dennis Beekman wrote: I use linux becuase i think that windows is just to bloated to even be considered ... but lately Linux has been going in the same direction when it comes to the desktop enviroments Gnome 3 KDE 4. This is all a matter of opinion. I

Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3 + KDE 4 are both large disappointments.

2011-04-10 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, April 10, 2011 15:07:27 Dennis Beekman wrote: On 04/10/2011 03:50 PM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:50 +0200, Dennis Beekman wrote: I use linux becuase i think that windows is just to bloated to even be considered ... but lately Linux has been going in the

Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3 + KDE 4 are both large disappointments.

2011-04-10 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, April 10, 2011 12:42:57 Arthur Titeica wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:50:41 +0200, Dennis Beekman wrote: [flaming] I though KDE 4 was bad and bloated and that i couldn't get any worse... it seems i was wrong. Boy this new Gnome version is even more bloated and buggy then KDE

Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3 + KDE 4 are both large disappointments.

2011-04-10 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, April 10, 2011 13:13:42 Jelle van der Waa wrote: On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 19:40 +0300, Alper Kanat wrote: s/failback/fallback/g sorry for the typo.. --- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 19:39, Alper Kanat tu...@raptiye.org wrote: Hello Fellow

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Friday, April 08, 2011 14:29:34 Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 8 Apr 2011 10:55:16 -0600 schrieb Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com: Yaro makes many good points, I think that my recommendation would be to allow someone to maintain support for SELinux in community. If SELinux support is

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:01:04 Thomas S Hatch wrote: On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: On Friday, April 08, 2011 14:29:34 Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 8 Apr 2011 10:55:16 -0600 schrieb Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com: Yaro makes many good

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:54:23 Thomas S Hatch wrote: On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: On Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:01:04 Thomas S Hatch wrote: On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: On Friday, April 08, 2011 14:29:34

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-08 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Friday, April 08, 2011 05:43:51 Kaiting Chen wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Jelle van der Waa je...@vdwaa.nl wrote: And on a side note, I don't like archlinux forcing users to use SELinux because users should have a choice to use any MAC software they want. That's why AppArmor

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 15:27:27 Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 05.04.2011 09:19, schrieb Thomas S Hatch: I can think of three considerations for a cron daemon: 1 . Minimal - its a cron daemon, it does not need to be complex 2. Active development 3. Anacron functionality As far as I

Re: [arch-general] base stuff (was: Change Arch's default crond)

2011-04-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 18:13:04 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis grb...@xsmail.comwrote: Thomas S Hatch wrote: I am saving the include SELINUX support in base for a latter date my

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:00:55 pm hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: The fact he called it racism smells of a troll to me. Trolls are worse than spammers. Meeku: No. The person who did not wish me to

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:03:25 pm hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: I'm racist against trolls. Am I a horrible person? Meeku: If the spam allegation is motivated by seeing spiritual email addresses on a public

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:05:15 pm hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: Can somebody ban him? Meeku: Well then I question your opinion-judgement because font, coding and operating systems are related. If the spam

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:08:59 pm hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: .stop spamming the mailing list. Meeku: I respond to silly accusations and now I get hounded also. It's not a silly accusation when you're

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:13:19 pm hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: .you're a troll and a spammer. Get the hell off my mailing list. Meeku: This attitude does not do the reputation of your o/s any good. If

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:15:59 pm hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: .trying to get people to use your font.spam.we're. Meeku: If you don't want to use the font fine. I don't want you spamming your

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:17:54 pm o...@deathbycomputers.co.uk wrote: Been lurking here for a while and I'm now really considering dropping this list. Please do not feed the troll it will only make it worse. Cani Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message-

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:20:17 pm Nathan Wayde wrote: On 23/01/11 18:13, hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_h are_h...@lavabit.com wrote: .you're a troll and a spammer. Get the hell off my mailing list. Meeku: This attitude does not do

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-22 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, January 22, 2011 05:23:13 am hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: Can someone stop him from spamming our inboxes ? Meeku: our means the whole mailing list. You should have used the word my and if you are a

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-22 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, January 22, 2011 09:09:22 am Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 06:23 -0500, hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: Can someone stop him from spamming our inboxes ? Meeku: our means the whole mailing

Re: [arch-general] Gnome Sound Events and Settings

2011-01-22 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, January 22, 2011 09:28:35 am Steve Holmes wrote: What tools are needed in Arch to configure the login and logout sounds for GNOME? When I go into the Volume control, I can only change the alert sounds and that, I can do OK but right now, I cannot get any sounds to work for

Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-22 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, January 22, 2011 01:28:50 pm Geoffrey Teale wrote: 2011/1/22 Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net On Saturday, January 22, 2011 09:09:22 am Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 06:23 -0500, hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama _hare_h

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-21 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Friday, January 21, 2011 11:53:22 am C Anthony Risinger wrote: oh... my. there is too much expletive deleted to respond properly so i'll try touch a couple [several] things ... ... why the resistance at all? let me reiterate this nce and slow: Because it's completely unnecessary.

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-21 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Friday, January 21, 2011 05:42:17 pm Ray Rashif wrote: (snip) indeed, and i'd mostly agree. however while im not a developer for archlinux, i wouldnt waste time on obsolete systems when a better alternative saves me time; you may end up maintaining the initscripts yourself. keep that

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-20 Thread Yaro Kasear
I was ALMOST behind a switch to systemd until I found out the guy behind it is Lennart Poettering. Now we can expect a half-broken init system that'll be in perpetual beta, and more passing off the buck on bug reports to distributions/drivers/whatever.

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-20 Thread Yaro Kasear
Never mind about what I said. I'm just having a bad day. Can someone give me a more clear idea on why we might need systemd? It doesn't look like it'd fit with the Arch Way, and, well, SysV Init isn't exactly broken, and if it isn't broken, why fix it?

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-20 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 05:45:46 pm Tom Gundersen wrote: (snip) @Yaro: 1) In my experience Lennart has been a pleasure to work with. I, personally, have never worked with him. I have seen enough criticism of Pulse Audio, for example, getting handwaved and pinned on someone else's

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-20 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 06:27:04 pm Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 15:52 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: I was ALMOST behind a switch to systemd until I found out the guy behind it is Lennart Poettering. Now we can expect a half-broken init system that'll be in perpetual beta

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-20 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 07:03:23 pm Ng Oon-Ee wrote: (snip) This talk is probably a year or so out of date however. Try pulseaudio now, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. You'd also have noticed that actual bug reports on our forums/ML etc. concerning pulseaudio have dropped to

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-20 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 07:05:23 pm Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 18:55 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: On Thursday, January 20, 2011 06:48:14 pm Sander Jansen wrote: (snip) - It's nice you can install it next to sysv-init. This makes it really easy to test without breaking

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-20 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 07:09:43 pm Sander Jansen wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: On Thursday, January 20, 2011 06:48:14 pm Sander Jansen wrote: (snip) - It's nice you can install it next to sysv-init. This makes it really easy to test

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Upstart

2011-01-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 04:29:02 am Laurent Carlier wrote: Le mercredi 19 janvier 2011 11:16:41, Jelle van der Waa a écrit : On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 14:50 +0700, Madhur Ahuja wrote: Ubuntu and Fedora has already embraced it. Any ideas when will Arch switch to upstart based

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Upstart

2011-01-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:53:44 pm C Anthony Risinger wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 04:29:02 am Laurent Carlier wrote: Le mercredi 19 janvier 2011 11:16:41, Jelle van der Waa a écrit : On Wed, 2011-01-19

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Upstart

2011-01-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:25:28 pm Isaac Dupree wrote: On 01/19/11 14:03, Yaro Kasear wrote: And comments about Ubuntu and their competence are entirely relevant to this discussion, as Upstart is entirely their creation. Would you rather I talk about people who had nothing to do

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 05:51:02 pm Matthew Monaco wrote: Devs, Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's without it for a while now. What is BKL?

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-28 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 12:11 +0200, Χρήστος Κώτσαρης wrote: I believe this was the right choice. Pulseaudio should be in extra and all applications build with pulse support. Except for the fact that Pulse Audio is an incredible REGRESSION in Linux sound and causes far more problems than it

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-28 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:15 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote: On 29 November 2010 00:08, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: Once again, I say PA is far from the kind of quality I'd expect from a package in [extra], and I'm surprised the Arch devs are even considering it, especially in light

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-28 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:19 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 17:49 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote: On 28 November 2010 11:24, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 11:17 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 18:21 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: I don't see

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on pulseaudio [WAS: PulseAudio in [testing]]

2010-11-28 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:27 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 10:18 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:15 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote: On 29 November 2010 00:08, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: Once again, I say PA is far from the kind of quality I'd expect

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on pulseaudio [WAS: PulseAudio in [testing]]

2010-11-28 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 18:44 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 11/28/2010 06:38 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: Maybe wait until GNOME 3 actually gets released before put something unstable and useless in [extra] needlessly. our experience in packaging software, fixing bugs and debugging is far

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