On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote:
Notice that debian is working on a tool to automagically convert unit
systemd files into initscripts.
https://github.com/akhilvij/systemd-to-sysvinit-converter
If that works, it would be great. However, I'm very
Op 28 aug. 2012 10:06 schreef Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no het volgende:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr
wrote:
Notice that debian is working on a tool to automagically convert unit
systemd files into initscripts.
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Guus Snijders gsnijd...@gmail.com wrote:
Op 28 aug. 2012 10:06 schreef Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no het volgende:
If that works, it would be great. However, I'm very skeptical. I don't
see how this could possibly work for services of type other than
forking
On 27 August 2012 18:16, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky l.jirkov...@gmail.com
wrote:
I can help (or at least try to) with support for initscripts
Anyone who wants to help, please join arch-proje...@archlinux.org,
review patches, use
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky l.jirkov...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pretty sure at least Ubuntu will keep patches to make some of such
apps work without systemd.
So far we see that whenever systemd is made optional, it is optional
at compile-time rather than at run-time (which
On 28 August 2012 11:05, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky l.jirkov...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm pretty sure at least Ubuntu will keep patches to make some of such
apps work without systemd.
So far we see that whenever systemd is made optional,
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote:
[...]its communication channels should be installed before the daemon is
started up [...]
This is the point. If a daemon has been customized for systemd (which
some have, and hopefully more will), then it will
at some point other packages are
likely to depend on you booting with systemd (NetworkManager, polkit,
Gnome, etc.).
Do you mean the packages compiled for Arch with systemd enabled
options like firefoxes with dbus? I don't see these packages removing
more than half their userbase and I don't
I'm pretty sure at least Ubuntu will keep patches to make some of such
apps work without systemd. I can maintain these in community if that
time comes. But I can care about KDE only, making GNOME work without
systemd would be a too difficult (I don't use it and they are much
more likely to
Hi,
Apparently, Gentoo has recently forked udev. [1] I am not completely
sure since the main poster is a n00b according to the gentoo forum
ratings, but rest of the discussions seems legit.
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Jayesh Badwaik
jayesh.badwai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Apparently, Gentoo has recently forked udev. [1] I am not completely
sure since the main poster is a n00b according to the gentoo forum
ratings, but rest of the discussions seems legit.
Actually, a guy
Ahh, I thought so. It was only forked yesterday, so there is not much to
be expected in terms of changes right now. But going by the number of
veterans and others who have commented on it, I thought that it is
possible that this is legit. Also, the guys there are talking like they
are the one
Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
schrieb Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com:
I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
audience. Some of you have probably already noticed that systemd 189
now
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 07:59:52AM +0200, Heiko Baums wrote:
Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
schrieb Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com:
I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
audience.
Op maandag 27 augustus 2012 07:59:52 schreef Heiko Baums:
Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
schrieb Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com:
I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
audience. Some
Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:
Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
schrieb Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com:
I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
audience. Some of you have probably
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 08:24:21AM +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:
Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
schrieb Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com:
I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
on IRC, but that of course
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 17:15:39 -0400, Dave Reisner wrote:
Hi,
I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed on
IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
audience. Some of you have probably already noticed that systemd 189 now
provides,
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Geert Hendrickx ge...@hendrickx.be wrote:
A systemd upgrade question (not related to this particular update),
do you generally need to reboot when systemd is upgraded?
In general, it is probably a good idea to reboot after upgrading
low-level packages. In the
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:
Nobody is forcing systemd on anybody.
Wasn't it this what was always said by the devs in all those long
threads about systemd? And what are you doing now? Isn't this not
forcing it on everybody?
No one were forcing
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:48:48 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
Since the above quoted statement was made, a decision was taken to
move to systemd by default, so it clearly no longer applies. While you
are still free to use initscripts, at some point other packages are
likely to depend
On Aug 27, 2012 10:32 AM, Joakim Hernberg j...@alchemy.lu wrote:
Please support our traditional initscripts as long as possible,
I will. I just don't know how long that will be, so people should prepare
to move.
Tom
Am 27.08.2012 10:32, schrieb Joakim Hernberg:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:48:48 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
Since the above quoted statement was made, a decision was taken to
move to systemd by default, so it clearly no longer applies. While you
are still free to use initscripts, at
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:48:32 +0200
Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is
unmaintained, polkit will soon depend on systemd. The next Gnome
version will require systemd - more to come.
I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in
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But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is
unmaintained, polkit will soon depend on systemd. The next Gnome version
will require systemd - more to come
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Isn't it possible to start systemd daemon-like
Am Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 +0200
schrieb Joakim Hernberg j...@alchemy.lu:
I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :(
Try Xfce. ;-)
Heiko
On 27/08/2012 9:39 AM, Heiko Baums wrote:
Am Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 +0200
schrieb Joakim Hernberg j...@alchemy.lu:
I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :(
Try Xfce. ;-)
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/consolekit/ would suggest
that xfce is not safe in this
On 27 August 2012 10:40, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
On Aug 27, 2012 10:32 AM, Joakim Hernberg j...@alchemy.lu wrote:
Please support our traditional initscripts as long as possible,
I will. I just don't know how long that will be, so people should prepare
to move.
Tom
I can help (or
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky l.jirkov...@gmail.com wrote:
I can help (or at least try to) with support for initscripts
Anyone who wants to help, please join arch-proje...@archlinux.org,
review patches, use initscripts from git/testing and report problems.
if it's
going to
Thomas Bächler wrote:
Please support our traditional initscripts as long as possible, as I for
one really don't look forwards to systemd, at least not at this point
in time. Reasons excluded to avoid yet another flamefest...:(
If you search the archives, you will notice that longer
On Monday 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 Joakim Hernberg wrote:
I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :(
I use KDE regularly. It works perfectly fine with/without pulseaudio.
(Actually since archlinux does not install pulseaudio by default, I did
not notice it was not installed for a
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