Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Josef Miegl
Please understand that this is an Arch Linux specific mailing list, i.e. it's not ment for discussing US politics. The majority of people who are subscribed are subscribed for Arch related discussions, news, events... not your political opinions! As Eli said earlier, the Arch subreddit is not

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Filipe Laíns via arch-general
On Mon, 2020-06-01 at 23:18 +, Amir Fletcher via arch-general wrote: > Arch Linux is a fantastic distribution. It should remain exactly > that: a computer operating system for technical users. Politics > should not be part of the project. > > Recently, the Arch reddit logo was changed to a

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 6/2/20 1:09 PM, Kusoneko wrote: > On June 2, 2020 5:58:51 PM UTC, Hanipaganda via arch-general > wrote: >> >> >> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:10 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: >> >>> On 6/2/20 3:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf via

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Kusoneko
On June 2, 2020 5:58:51 PM UTC, Hanipaganda via arch-general wrote: > > > >Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > >‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:10 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > >> On 6/2/20 3:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 02 Jun 2020

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 6/2/20 12:58 PM, Hanipaganda via arch-general wrote: > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:10 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > >> On 6/2/20 3:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 00:53:02 -0400,

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Hanipaganda via arch-general
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:10 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > On 6/2/20 3:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: > > > On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 00:53:02 -0400, Olivier Langlois wrote: > > > > > https://thenationalpulse.com/ > > >

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 6/2/20 3:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 00:53:02 -0400, Olivier Langlois wrote: >> https://thenationalpulse.com/ > Isn't this a right-wing propaganda media? IIUC you are so far > the only one making a political issue out of a sincere exchange > of thoughts,

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 00:53:02 -0400, Olivier Langlois wrote: >https://thenationalpulse.com/ Isn't this a right-wing propaganda media? IIUC you are so far the only one making a political issue out of a sincere exchange of thoughts, regarding an off-topic thread. FWIW the logo has got only a single

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread m. via arch-general
On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 00:53:02 -0400 Olivier Langlois wrote: > > Please keep ArchLinux apolitical. > Every technical decision is political. Infrastructures shape habits and lives of those who use them, facilitate certain uses, render possible certain actions, while make more difficult other

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Sotir Danailov via arch-general
On 2.6.2020 г. 10:03, Robin Martijn wrote: I wouldn't say that you are being censored and I think the amount of e-mails on this subject is unreasonable This is so ironic. Why is it unreasonable? It is a very good topic to discuss anywhere. Also, people shouldn't forget that the LGBT community

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-02 Thread Robin Martijn
Without responding to anyone specific and only to put in my two-penny worth: The only place where the logo was changed to a rainbow, was on Reddit. There, someone made a post which, based on solely the title, sounds fairly like a meme indeed. This was removed because of that reason. When I

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Amish via arch-general
I am also of opinion that Arch should be neutral and should not promote (or demote) what is not going to help in Arch development. There are contributors from all over the world who may or may not be of the same opinion as moderators or others. This is not about Reddit and not about LGBT

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Olivier Langlois
The rainbow is the symbol of the universal religion that globalists wants to impose on all nations. I have seen it all over the place during the Covid lockdown and I have made a very negative association to it due to the circumstances. Yes it is political. It is associated with a philosophy and

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread David C. Rankin
On 06/01/2020 07:57 PM, Kevin Dodd via arch-general wrote: > The FOSS movement was called a "movement" for a reason. It was always about > giving power to the people who would otherwise have none, and getting the > boots of the powerful off of their backs. Pride month fits that ethos > perfectly.

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread David C. Rankin
On 06/01/2020 07:57 PM, Kevin Dodd via arch-general wrote: > The FOSS movement was called a "movement" for a reason. It was always about > giving power to the people who would otherwise have none, and getting the > boots of the powerful off of their backs. Pride month fits that ethos > perfectly.

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Rasmus Liland via arch-general
On 2020-06-01 21:06 -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > Equality and freedom of genre/sex decisions > is not politics, it's just basic human > rights. Human rights is also a very fragile political construct invented by the United Nations perhaps only achievable under certain conditions. Perhaps it

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 01:31:24 +, Kyle via arch-general wrote: >I ask about the website because I'm visually impaired, using the Orca >screen reader, so am unable to see for myself what if anything was >done to the logo that appears on the Arch website. The logos on https://www.archlinux.org/

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Kusoneko
On June 2, 2020 1:31:24 AM UTC, Kyle via arch-general wrote: >Well, the way I see it, they can keep the rainbow on their logo all >year >long. After all, I see the rainbow as a symbol of its original meaning, > >that God set His bow in the cloud as a covenant between Him and us that > >He would

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Kyle via arch-general
Well, the way I see it, they can keep the rainbow on their logo all year long. After all, I see the rainbow as a symbol of its original meaning, that God set His bow in the cloud as a covenant between Him and us that He would never again destroy the earth with a flood. That said, a religious

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Kevin Dodd via arch-general
The FOSS movement was called a "movement" for a reason. It was always about giving power to the people who would otherwise have none, and getting the boots of the powerful off of their backs. Pride month fits that ethos perfectly. If you don't want to see the logo, you can either use custom

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Joshua Schmalle via arch-general
Does Reddit arch celebrate Christmas? I don’t see how a rainbow would imply it’s relevant to the community regardless. It’s not forcing anything on anyone. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:17 PM, LuKaRo wrote: > On 02.06.20 01:18, Amir Fletcher via arch-general wrote: >>

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 6/1/20 6:43 PM, Ricardo Band wrote: > On June 1, 2020 11:18:50 PM UTC, Amir Fletcher via arch-general > wrote: >> Recently, the Arch reddit logo was changed to a rainbow. This is for "pride >> month". It is forcing a political view on all of the users who did not ask >> for this. > I'm

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread David C. Rankin
On 06/01/2020 06:18 PM, Amir Fletcher via arch-general wrote: > Arch Linux is a fantastic distribution. It should remain exactly that: a > computer operating system for technical users. Politics should not be part > of the project. > > Recently, the Arch reddit logo was changed to a rainbow. This

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Shorrer via arch-general
I think one can just ignore the "systemd month" and all that accompanies it. Or stop visiting Reddit. However yeah, it's a bit sad that someone would think of changing a logo from something that unites different people to something that divides them and then censor opinions about it being

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread LuKaRo
On 02.06.20 01:18, Amir Fletcher via arch-general wrote: Recently, the Arch reddit logo was changed to a rainbow. This is for "pride month". It is forcing a political view on all of the users who did not ask for this. Many of us don't care about the views of the developers or moderators as

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 6/1/20 7:42 PM, Kusoneko wrote: > I agree with Amir on this. This is an operating system, supposedly > free from "corporate actions", where for PR reasons a company would > "support" pride months and other political events. The developers, > maintainers, moderators and trusted users can support

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Mon, 01 Jun 2020 23:43:10 +, Ricardo Band wrote: >It's a rainbow, not a swastika. +1 In what colour should we paint the bike shed? I seriously doubt that "outside of western countries most countries are strictly against" rainbow coloured bike sheds or logos. Those "ominous" countries

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread riveravaldez via arch-general
Equality and freedom of genre/sex decisions is not politics, it's just basic human rights. Or, it is politics, and then everything is politics. Also, to look in other direction and ignore social issues is also a political stance, and the free software is extremely sociopolitical... Anyway.

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Ricardo Band
On June 1, 2020 11:18:50 PM UTC, Amir Fletcher via arch-general wrote: >Recently, the Arch reddit logo was changed to a rainbow. This is for "pride >month". It is forcing a political view on all of the users who did not ask for >this. I'm sorry but why do you care about the damn logo? And

Re: [arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Kusoneko
On June 1, 2020 11:18:50 PM UTC, Amir Fletcher via arch-general wrote: >Arch Linux is a fantastic distribution. It should remain exactly that: >a computer operating system for technical users. Politics should not be >part of the project. > >Recently, the Arch reddit logo was changed to a

[arch-general] Arch should be apolitical

2020-06-01 Thread Amir Fletcher via arch-general
Arch Linux is a fantastic distribution. It should remain exactly that: a computer operating system for technical users. Politics should not be part of the project. Recently, the Arch reddit logo was changed to a rainbow. This is for "pride month". It is forcing a political view on all of the