Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-05-01 Thread Daniel Micay via arch-general
On Mon, 2017-05-01 at 12:34 +, Alexander Harrigan wrote: > It looks Gentoo's Hardened Kernel Project oficially started. > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Hardened/Hardened_Kernel_Project Gentoo wiki page != Gentoo project. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-05-01 Thread Alexander Harrigan
It looks Gentoo's Hardened Kernel Project oficially started. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Hardened/Hardened_Kernel_Project \-- Sent using MsgSafe.io's Free Plan Private, encrypted, online communication For everyone. https://www.msgsafe.io

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-29 Thread Daniel Micay via arch-general
It isn't a contradiction. If the focus is on an LTS, then it's a dead end and there will be nothing to show for it in the future. The easiest time to start deciding what to drop and porting forward is now while it's only one kernel version behind. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally sig

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-29 Thread Alexander Harrigan
Name doesn't matter. When it breaks with systemd then it will be stopped but that won't be in months. Paxd is avalaible and it always be assumed to maintain it by yourself. Also I see contradiction when you say many critical grsecurity features won't be avalaible in mainline kernels anytime soon an

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-29 Thread Daniel Micay via arch-general
On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 17:03 +, Alexander Harrigan wrote: > I found someone from opensuse started to maintain grsec patches for > 4.9 kernel > series [1]. Maybe it will be possible to add linux-lts-grsec package > to AUR > based on Daniel's PKGBUILD and config with RANDSTRUCT enabled linked > to

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-29 Thread Alexander Harrigan
I found someone from opensuse started to maintain grsec patches for 4.9 kernel series [1]. Maybe it will be possible to add linux-lts-grsec package to AUR based on Daniel's PKGBUILD and config with RANDSTRUCT enabled linked to new upstream source. [1] https://github.com/kdave/grsecurity-patches/tr

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-27 Thread ITwrx.org
On 04/27/2017 01:19 PM, Daniel Micay via arch-general wrote: > The PaX and grsecurity patches are no longer going to be public, so > official support in Arch Linux has ended: this is highly disappointing but not completely unexpected. thanks for your work all this time.

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-27 Thread Daniel Micay via arch-general
On Thu, 2017-04-27 at 20:45 +, Alexander Harrigan wrote: > It would be great if you can provide linux-hardened kernel with > everything > what KSPP has enabled by default. Even in AUR so you won't have to > rebuild it > constantly and random stack option would have more sense. > > Two question

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-27 Thread Alexander Harrigan
It would be great if you can provide linux-hardened kernel with everything what KSPP has enabled by default. Even in AUR so you won't have to rebuild it constantly and random stack option would have more sense. Two questions: 1\. Do you think maintaining 4.9 lts grsec kernel would be doable until

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-27 Thread Daniel Micay via arch-general
On Thu, 2017-04-27 at 19:12 +, Carsten Mattner wrote: > Is CopperheadOS using grsec or something derived from it? It starts from the baseline provided by Google and ports features from PaX and grsecurity as needed to the kernels. It used to use a full PaX port on ARM devices but that hasn't ma

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-27 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Carsten Mattner wrote: > Is CopperheadOS using grsec or something derived from it? Found the technical details, it seems to be select grsec features ported to AOSP but not a full port of grsec, which together with the other hardening looks reasonable since it's a

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-27 Thread Daniel Micay via arch-general
On Thu, 2017-04-27 at 19:11 +, Carsten Mattner wrote: > This is an undesirable situation for users, but I want to offer a > positive outlook on this. Ever since KSPP started, some of the > dynamics started to shift and I wager that closing off grsec will > motivate more users and developers to

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-27 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
Is CopperheadOS using grsec or something derived from it?

Re: [arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-27 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
This is an undesirable situation for users, but I want to offer a positive outlook on this. Ever since KSPP started, some of the dynamics started to shift and I wager that closing off grsec will motivate more users and developers to consider supporting efforts that are in mainline linux. Short-term

[arch-general] End of official PaX and grsecurity support in Arch Linux

2017-04-27 Thread Daniel Micay via arch-general
The PaX and grsecurity patches are no longer going to be public, so official support in Arch Linux has ended: https://grsecurity.net/passing_the_baton.php https://grsecurity.net/passing_the_baton_faq.php I'll be clearing out the AUR packages for PaX and grsecurity soon since the current 4.10 patc