Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-10 Thread Christos Nouskas
On 9 May 2014 00:22, Daniel Micay danielmi...@gmail.com wrote: You already made it quite personal by promoting FUD with gems like this: systemd's team is noticeably chauvinistic Good grace, you pasted a quote I didn't make and made it appear as mine or as if I approved it, whilst I was very

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/09/2014 01:41 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: On 09/05/14 01:29 AM, Mark Lee wrote: To Daniel, I'm pointing out that respect for people shouldn't affect technical skepticism. People can rant against whomever they want as long as it has

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-09 Thread Daniel Micay
On 09/05/14 02:02 AM, Mark Lee wrote: On 05/09/2014 01:41 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: On 09/05/14 01:29 AM, Mark Lee wrote: To Daniel, I'm pointing out that respect for people shouldn't affect technical skepticism. People can rant against whomever they want as long as it has technical

[arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Olivier Langlois
Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp directory daily. This is not something that I like as I prefer to decide when to clean up and to manually perform the clean up. I have tried systemctl stop

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Savyasachee Jha
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Olivier Langlois oliv...@olivierlanglois.net wrote: Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp directory daily. This is not something that I like as I prefer to

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Christos Nouskas
On 8 May 2014 09:43, Olivier Langlois oliv...@olivierlanglois.net wrote: Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp directory daily. This is not something that I like as I prefer to decide when to

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Christos Nouskas n...@archlinux.us wrote: On 8 May 2014 09:43, Olivier Langlois oliv...@olivierlanglois.net wrote: Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Thursday 08 May 2014 09:53:41 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Christos Nouskas n...@archlinux.us wrote: On 8 May 2014 09:43, Olivier Langlois oliv...@olivierlanglois.net wrote: Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this new systemd

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT
-Original Message- From: arch-general [mailto:arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org] On Behalf Of Lukas Jirkovsky Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:54 AM Please don't start another systemd flamewar. And BTW, automatic /tmp cleaning was there since the beginning. I agree to not start a

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Leonid Isaev
Hi, On Thu, 08 May 2014 02:43:57 -0400 Olivier Langlois oliv...@olivierlanglois.net wrote: Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp directory daily. This is not something that I like as I

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 11:44 AM, LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT wrote: -Original Message- From: arch-general [mailto:arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org] On Behalf Of Lukas Jirkovsky Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:54 AM Please don't start another systemd flamewar. And BTW, automatic /tmp cleaning

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Alessandro Doro
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 03:44:51PM +, LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT wrote: I was forecasting that this comment would come when I wrote the original request. While I agree with what you say, I think that it is reasonable to let the user have the control over when it is cleaned. Without

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 03:46 AM, Christos Nouskas wrote: On 8 May 2014 09:43, Olivier Langlois oliv...@olivierlanglois.net wrote: Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp directory daily. This is not

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Nowaker
This is not a rant against Arch or its devs and community, but against systemd; the sad facts speak for themselves. This is a rant against the Arch devs and the Arch community. Several of the developers and several people involved with the community are systemd developers, and there is

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 05:01 PM, Nowaker wrote: This is not a rant against Arch or its devs and community, but against systemd; the sad facts speak for themselves. This is a rant against the Arch devs and the Arch community. Several of the developers and several people involved with the community are

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Christos Nouskas
I guess you'll be upset that Tom (one of the Arch developers) wrote systemd-networkd. You guess wrong. You'll probably also be upset that there's going to be a simple systemd-console from the kmscon developer (who is an Arch user) and a systemd-timesyncd for basic NTP clients not needing a

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 05:10 PM, Christos Nouskas wrote: I guess you'll be upset that Tom (one of the Arch developers) wrote systemd-networkd. You guess wrong. So you're okay with it providing networking, but not timer units? Timer units were a very simple addition on top of the existing event loop,

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Christos Nouskas
Do accept the fact that not everyone is content with everything systemd and just leave it at that. Thank you and bye. -- X https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?SeB=mK=nous http://tiny.cc/linux-pf

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 05:37 PM, Christos Nouskas wrote: Do accept the fact that not everyone is content with everything systemd and just leave it at that. Thank you and bye. That can be expressed without calling the developers chauvanistic and spreading misinformation. It's yet a free software project

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 03:40 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: [0] http://boycottsystemd.org/ There are no facts there. I already responded to this FUD on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/24zj10/what_are_the_benefits_of_partitioning_disk_space/chcao5u Whoops, wrong link:

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Guus Snijders
Op 8 mei 2014 21:41 schreef Daniel Micay danielmi...@gmail.com het volgende: [...] and a systemd-timesyncd for basic NTP clients not needing a full blown server with complicated RTC handling. Just for the record: that is what is called sntp (Simple ntp). Ntp is about clock sync, sntp just

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/08/2014 05:22 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: On 08/05/14 05:10 PM, Christos Nouskas wrote: I guess you'll be upset that Tom (one of the Arch developers) wrote systemd-networkd. You guess wrong. So you're okay with it providing networking, but

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 09/05/14 01:01 AM, Mark Lee wrote: To all, Don't make any of this personal. In addition, I hope the inclusion of systemd in Arch Linux has more justification than just some Arch developers are also Systemd developers. Arch may not be a democracy, but it's not supposed to be infested

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/09/2014 01:22 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: On 09/05/14 01:01 AM, Mark Lee wrote: To all, Don't make any of this personal. In addition, I hope the inclusion of systemd in Arch Linux has more justification than just some Arch developers are

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 09/05/14 01:29 AM, Mark Lee wrote: To Daniel, I'm pointing out that respect for people shouldn't affect technical skepticism. People can rant against whomever they want as long as it has technical criticism (at least on this mailing list). Accusing the developers of bad faith and