Re: [arch-general] On-boot delay due to timer units

2014-04-21 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 21:31:07 +0200 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: [...] I think another solution in systemd would be introducing a holdoff time: Instead of running immediately on boot, the timer should be scheduled for boot+5min. This requires some investigation - sorry, I

Re: [arch-general] On-boot delay due to timer units

2014-04-21 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 21.04.2014 18:56, schrieb Leonid Isaev: On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 21:31:07 +0200 AFAIU, there are 2 real issues here: 1. We hook to the boot process a bunch of disk-intensive operations which did not belong there in the 1st place. 2. Even if a boot delay for timers is implemented or the behavior

[arch-general] On-boot delay due to timer units

2014-04-17 Thread Leonid Isaev
Hi, Since anacron jobs were replaced with timers, I am seeing a noticeable delay before agetty prompt appears on machines which were unused for some time (due to update/man-db timers starting up simultaneously). TLDR: Anacron inserts a random delay between boot and running the jobs, so is it

Re: [arch-general] On-boot delay due to timer units

2014-04-17 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 17.04.2014 20:56, schrieb Leonid Isaev: Hi, Since anacron jobs were replaced with timers, I am seeing a noticeable delay before agetty prompt appears on machines which were unused for some time (due to update/man-db timers starting up simultaneously). TLDR: Anacron inserts a random

Re: [arch-general] On-boot delay due to timer units

2014-04-17 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 21:31:07 +0200 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 17.04.2014 20:56, schrieb Leonid Isaev: Hi, Since anacron jobs were replaced with timers, I am seeing a noticeable delay before agetty prompt appears on machines which were unused for some time (due to

Re: [arch-general] On-boot delay due to timer units

2014-04-17 Thread Jan Alexander Steffens
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: I don't think it is a problem that the timers run on boot, but rather that they delay Type=idle units, like agetty. From what the documentation says, there should not be any delay: Behavior of idle is very similar to