Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question

2013-09-27 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-09-27 16:36, Thomas Bächler wrote: > In his 'Aren’t statically linked executables huge?' section, he wants to > say that statically linked binaries are not as big as people think. For > that, he compares two binaries of ksh: > > Static uclibc: 170KB > Dynamic glibc: 234KB > > This compariso

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question

2013-09-27 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 27.09.2013 16:10, schrieb Chris Down: >> That FAQ seems to be about >> some bitterness about glibc and its code, which has nothing to do with >> static and dynamic linking. > > Not really. The releated references to glibc are more about refuting the > "size" argument when linking against it (as

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question

2013-09-27 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-09-27 15:13, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 27.09.2013 14:56, schrieb Chris Down: > > Well, static libraries are not a waste of space if it was intentional. > > Static linking should be preferred for a number of reasons[0], they > > should be preferred in any sane Linux distribution (of which,

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question

2013-09-27 Thread Allan McRae
On 27/09/13 01:15, LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT wrote: > Hi, > > I just checked what was the motivation for this 5th release and I have found: > > http://hmarco.org/bugs/CVE-2013-4788.html > > where it says: > > The vulnerability is caused due to the non initialization to a random value > (it is

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question

2013-09-27 Thread Allan McRae
On 27/09/13 22:56, Chris Down wrote: > On 2013-09-26 08:53, Gaetan Bisson wrote: >> Some Arch packages even provide static libraries for convenience, such >> as gcc and glibc. And unfortunately a few higher-level packages also >> provide static libraries because their maintainers did not notice the

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question

2013-09-27 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 27.09.2013 14:56, schrieb Chris Down: > Well, static libraries are not a waste of space if it was intentional. > Static linking should be preferred for a number of reasons[0], they > should be preferred in any sane Linux distribution (of which, > unfortunately I can't name any at the moment unti

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question

2013-09-27 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-09-26 08:53, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > Some Arch packages even provide static libraries for convenience, such > as gcc and glibc. And unfortunately a few higher-level packages also > provide static libraries because their maintainers did not notice the > waste of space... Well, static librari

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question

2013-09-26 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2013-09-26 15:15:12 +] LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT: > So, out of curiosity, how big is the threat since I am under the impression > that almost 100% if not 100% of Arch binaries uses libc.so People are free to build static libraries on Arch and use them. There are probably not many who do that

[arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question

2013-09-26 Thread LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT
Hi, I just checked what was the motivation for this 5th release and I have found: http://hmarco.org/bugs/CVE-2013-4788.html where it says: The vulnerability is caused due to the non initialization to a random value (it is always zero) of the "pointer guard" by the glibc only when generating st