Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 06:22:24AM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 22:04 +0200, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: GStreamer is a library for constructing graphs of media-handling components. The applications it supports range from simple Ogg/Vorbis playback, audio/video

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-22 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 22:37 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 06:22:24AM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 22:04 +0200, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: GStreamer is a library for constructing graphs of media-handling components. The applications it

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:26:33 -0500 David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: It still amazes me how people will take the position that all associated with Gnome must be 'crap'. No don't get me wrong, I have no arguments with your basic complaint that unnecessary dependencies

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 15:34 +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote: Is there some reason that the gstreamer good plugins set needs a whole load of GNOME crap? http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gstreamer0.10-good-plugins/ I've recently switched to XFCE and I'd like to avoid GNOME

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:14:56 +0300 Hussam Al-Tayeb ht990...@gmail.com wrote: Won't xfce be switching to GNOME crap like gvfs? :P That's only an optional dependency for Thunar if I remember correctly. I'm still trying to find out about that as I don't want to end up with a whole bunch of GNOME

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 21/04/10 19:25, Ananda Samaddar wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:14:56 +0300 Hussam Al-Tayebht990...@gmail.com wrote: Won't xfce be switching to GNOME crap like gvfs? :P That's only an optional dependency for Thunar if I remember correctly. I'm still trying to find out about that as I don't

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 21/04/10 09:28, Ananda Samaddar wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:26:33 -0500 David C. Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: It still amazes me how people will take the position that all associated with Gnome must be 'crap'. No don't get me wrong, I have no arguments with your

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 19:28 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: On 21/04/10 19:25, Ananda Samaddar wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:14:56 +0300 Hussam Al-Tayebht990...@gmail.com wrote: Won't xfce be switching to GNOME crap like gvfs? :P That's only an optional dependency for Thunar if I remember

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:35:11 +0100 Nathan Wayde kum...@konnichi.com wrote: Do you mind listing these Gnome dependencies, or at least your proposed PKGBUILD? I've looked at this and I can see only 2 (gconf and libsoup-gnome). Ofcourse that is based on the assumption that the pacma

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:35 +0100, Nathan Wayde wrote: Do you mind listing these Gnome dependencies, or at least your proposed PKGBUILD? I've looked at this and I can see only 2 (gconf and libsoup-gnome). Ofcourse that is based on the assumption that the pacma dependencies are

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Philipp
Excerpts from Ananda Samaddar's message of 2010-04-20 16:34:21 +0200: Is there some reason that the gstreamer good plugins set needs a whole load of GNOME crap? http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gstreamer0.10-good-plugins/ I've recently switched to XFCE and I'd like to avoid

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 21/04/10 10:52, Jan de Groot wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:35 +0100, Nathan Wayde wrote: Do you mind listing these Gnome dependencies, or at least your proposed PKGBUILD? I've looked at this and I can see only 2 (gconf and libsoup-gnome). Ofcourse that is based on the assumption that the

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:19:47 +0200 Philipp hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: I'm with you on this, the gnome dependencies of this package annoyed me a couple of times and is the reason why I avoid using gstreamer wherever possibly. A multimedia backend that depends on a specific desktop

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread David C. Rankin
On 04/21/2010 03:28 AM, Ananda Samaddar wrote: Yes it was an unfortunate choice of words. I don't think GNOME is crap, I'm just not enamoured with the direction it seems to be headed in, i.e. GNOME Shell. I can do without shiny stuff like that. Previous to my switching to XFCE I was a

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread fons
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:59:17PM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: I appreciate the desire for a minimal system. What I don't understand is the vilifying of packages just because they're part of a standard Gnome install. That's not the point. According to the definition on the gstreamer website

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 22:04 +0200, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:59:17PM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: I appreciate the desire for a minimal system. What I don't understand is the vilifying of packages just because they're part of a standard Gnome install. That's not

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 06:22 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Would you prefer the developer reimplement security-authorization and a configuration parser, then? Its not even as if gconf and its editor aren't separated into different packages. As long as GNOME doesn't start using it, that would be

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Philipp
Excerpts from Ng Oon-Ee's message of 2010-04-22 00:22:24 +0200: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 22:04 +0200, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:59:17PM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: I appreciate the desire for a minimal system. What I don't understand is the vilifying of packages

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 00:37 +0200, Philipp wrote: Excerpts from Ng Oon-Ee's message of 2010-04-22 00:22:24 +0200: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 22:04 +0200, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:59:17PM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: I appreciate the desire for a minimal system.

[arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-20 Thread Ananda Samaddar
Is there some reason that the gstreamer good plugins set needs a whole load of GNOME crap? http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gstreamer0.10-good-plugins/ I've recently switched to XFCE and I'd like to avoid GNOME dependencies. Is it possible to recompile from abs without all these

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-20 Thread Thomas Haider
Am Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:34:21 +0100 schrieb Ananda Samaddar ana...@samaddar.co.uk: Is there some reason that the gstreamer good plugins set needs a whole load of GNOME crap? http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gstreamer0.10-good-plugins/ I've recently switched to XFCE and I'd

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-20 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:40:27 +0200 Thomas Haider t.hai...@vcnc.org wrote: Am Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:34:21 +0100 schrieb Ananda Samaddar ana...@samaddar.co.uk: Is there some reason that the gstreamer good plugins set needs a whole load of GNOME crap?