Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 12:28:28 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > However, a user perhaps wants to update a few packages > that are important for development or regarding security issues and > might try to update other packages some days later, then Syu(w) isn't > an option.

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On 09/19/2015 06:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:16:11 +0100, Mauro Santos wrote: >> You can always do 'pacman -Syuw' until you manage to download all the >> packages. > > A pacman -Syu will do the same as a pacman -Syuw when it can't download > all packages ;). However, a

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

> Pacman downloads all packages before installing any of them. So if you have > a bad Internet connection then you'll be stuck at the first (download) > step. It will not leave your system in broken state. That's true. However, I broke my system pretty badly with this update. I must have

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 19:53:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 19:29:33 +0200, I wrote without thinking: >>No, since I read the mail of the OP before the update was available >>here, I tested it, because I was curious, since nothing was mentioned >>by the news. After installing

[arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

> > A pacman -Syu will do the same as a pacman -Syuw when it can't download > all packages ;). However, a user perhaps wants to update a few packages > that are important for development or regarding security issues and > might try to update other packages some days later, then Syu(w) isn't > an

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On 19-09-2015 10:53, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 17:28:58 +0800, Anatol Pomozov wrote: >> Hi >> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >> >>> >>> However, installing just a few packages instead of all packages needs >>> to be done, if

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

Hi On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > However, installing just a few packages instead of all packages needs > to be done, if the Internet connection get interrupted too often to > make a complete upgrade in one step. So a note by the Arch news

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 17:28:58 +0800, Anatol Pomozov wrote: >Hi > >On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > >> >> However, installing just a few packages instead of all packages needs >> to be done, if the Internet connection get interrupted too often to

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:16:11 +0100, Mauro Santos wrote: >You can always do 'pacman -Syuw' until you manage to download all the >packages. A pacman -Syu will do the same as a pacman -Syuw when it can't download all packages ;). However, a user perhaps wants to update a few packages that are

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:54:10 +0200, Simon Hanna wrote: >I wonder where in Germany you are that you don't have a good >connection It might be slow, but you should have internet >basically all the time It's a little bit too off-topic. I want to mention that this update didn't really cause

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 19:29:33 +0200, I wrote without thinking: >No, since I read the mail of the OP before the update was available >here, I tested it, because I was curious, since nothing was mentioned >by the news. After installing gptfdisk and readline, there was no >way to login or to

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:50:49 +0200, Martti Kühne wrote: >In fact, I guess it's sort of a logical requirement to using archlinux >to catch these things, because, as is denoted in the wiki, partial >updates are unsupported [0] and your system forcefully goes through >partially updated state during

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On 09/18/2015 12:46 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi, > > is there anything speaking against making such updates more > comfortable? > > Since the login shell is affected, it's not a simple chicken-and-egg > problem an Arch user usually expects to happen. > > Providing a transition package

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:04:34 -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote: >I don't think the login shell was affected, just an error when the >post_upgrade function failed to call install-info. > >Your login shell should be reloaded when you log back in. No, since I read the mail of the OP before the update was

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

Btw. on my install 152 packages from official repositories needed an upgrade. I read what packages will be upgraded and I care about the news on the Arch homepage, but if that many packages will be upgraded and nothing is mentioned on the homepage, I easily will miss a few packages that could

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:53:55 +0200 Damjan Georgievski wrote: > ( 2/70) upgrading ncurses > [##] 100% > ( 3/70) upgrading readline > [##] 100% > /usr/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries:

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:14:29PM +0200, Neven Sajko wrote: > On 15 September 2015 at 20:53, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > > ( 2/70) upgrading ncurses > > [##] 100% > > ( 3/70) upgrading readline > > [##]

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

I had these messages for the readline update in question, too. I think it's just natural that if ncurses is a dep of readline and readline is a dep of bash, that bash would link the ncurses.so it was built against. During the update, readline's post-upgrade install-snippet can't be run with bash,

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

Pardon me for being dumb (excuse: it's late), I don't know anymore what it is I didn't get 50 minutes ago :)

[arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

( 2/70) upgrading ncurses [##] 100% ( 3/70) upgrading readline [##] 100% /usr/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libncursesw.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory error: command failed to

Re: [arch-general] race condition when upgrading the new ncurses package

On 15 September 2015 at 20:53, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > ( 2/70) upgrading ncurses > [##] 100% > ( 3/70) upgrading readline > [##] 100% > /usr/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: