[arch-general] ldconfig -> Aborted.

2011-12-14 Thread C Anthony Risinger
this might be a bit brief as it's really late and i'm already in trouble :-/ ... will expand as needed. i upgrade my machines and VMs very regularly, at least once a week, this last batch of updates broke all of my VMs in particular ... hardware devices still seem to function correctly. they are

Re: [arch-general] ldconfig -> Aborted.

2011-12-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
[root@archlinux spinymouse]# ldconfig [root@archlinux spinymouse]# It's ok on my machine. The reposiztories I'm using are [root@archlinux spinymouse]# pacman -Syy :: Synchronizing package databases... core 102.0K 425.1K/s 00:00:00 [##

Re: [arch-general] ldconfig -> Aborted.

2011-12-14 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:46 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > any ideas?  i can't find anything out of place, or any significant > differences, and i'm not sure what to try next -- nothing unusual in > dmesg or logs, on the VMs or the host.  host is completely current as > of Dec 14 00:00 CST.  r

[arch-general] Accented characters in X terminal?

2011-12-14 Thread Magnus Therning
I just noticed that I no longer get accented characters in my terminals (I've tested lxterminal and gnome-terminal so far). Instead of the Swedish characters "åäö" I get "???". Far from ideal. This used to work a while ago (we're talking days, possibly weeks). As you notice it works well in non

Re: [arch-general] Accented characters in X terminal?

2011-12-14 Thread Rodrigo Amorim Bahiense
On 12/14/2011 10:48, Magnus Therning wrote: I just noticed that I no longer get accented characters in my terminals (I've tested lxterminal and gnome-terminal so far). Instead of the Swedish characters "åäö" I get "???". Far from ideal. This used to work a while ago (we're talking days, possib

Re: [arch-general] Accented characters in X terminal?

2011-12-14 Thread Mauro Santos
On 14-12-2011 12:48, Magnus Therning wrote: > I just noticed that I no longer get accented characters in my > terminals (I've tested lxterminal and gnome-terminal so far). Instead > of the Swedish characters "åäö" I get "???". Far from ideal. This > used to work a while ago (we're talking days,

Re: [arch-general] Accented characters in X terminal?

2011-12-14 Thread Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Mauro Santos wrote: > On 14-12-2011 12:48, Magnus Therning wrote: >> I just noticed that I no longer get accented characters in my >> terminals (I've tested lxterminal and gnome-terminal so far).  Instead >> of the Swedish characters "åäö" I get "???".  Far from i

Re: [arch-general] ldconfig -> Aborted.

2011-12-14 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:01:37 -0600 C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:46 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > at the last second i looked at the locale-gen stuff again, the trace > shows mmap() failing with EINVAL: > > # strace -ff -s256 -etrace=mmap localedef -i en_US -c -f IS

Re: [arch-general] Accented characters in X terminal?

2011-12-14 Thread Norbert Zeh
Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti [2011.12.14 1450 -0200]: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Mauro Santos > wrote: > > On 14-12-2011 12:48, Magnus Therning wrote: > >> I just noticed that I no longer get accented characters in my > >> terminals (I've tested lxterminal and gnome-terminal so far).  Inste

Re: [arch-general] Accented characters in X terminal?

2011-12-14 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:21:20PM +, Mauro Santos wrote: > On 14-12-2011 12:48, Magnus Therning wrote: > > I just noticed that I no longer get accented characters in my > > terminals (I've tested lxterminal and gnome-terminal so far). Instead > > of the Swedish characters "åäö" I get "???".

Re: [arch-general] Accented characters in X terminal?

2011-12-14 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:12:03PM -0400, Norbert Zeh wrote: > Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti [2011.12.14 1450 -0200]: [...] > I can see the characters just fine in your email, and I'm reading > this in mutt running in an xterm. My situation is that I don't want > to type any of these characters but w

Re: [arch-general] Accented characters in X terminal?

2011-12-14 Thread Mauro Santos
On 14-12-2011 19:30, Magnus Therning wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:21:20PM +, Mauro Santos wrote: >> On 14-12-2011 12:48, Magnus Therning wrote: >>> I just noticed that I no longer get accented characters in my >>> terminals (I've tested lxterminal and gnome-terminal so far). Instead >>>

Re: [arch-general] ldconfig -> Aborted.

2011-12-14 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:01:37 -0600 > C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> >> ... i'm thinking it's probably related to 9p2000.L passthru at this >> point (ehm, under KVM if i didn't already mention it), but if anyone >> has some additional input, or

Re: [arch-general] ldconfig -> Aborted.

2011-12-14 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:56:25 -0600 C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:01:37 -0600 > > C Anthony Risinger wrote: > >> > >> ... i'm thinking it's probably related to 9p2000.L passthru at this > >> point (ehm, under KVM if i

[arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Evan Martin
Hello, I'm a recent Arch user, a refugee from Ubuntu. I was attracted to Arch because I was tired of Ubuntu forcing their new software on me -- it seemed the Arch way was to allow you to use bleeding edge if you wanted it, but to not fork upstream. So it was with some surprise that I discovered

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
"python2 will refer to some version of Python 2.x python3 will refer to some version of Python 3.x python should refer to the same target as python2 but may refer to python3 on some bleeding edge distributions" above snippet taken from: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Sander Jansen
I think the question was whether it was a "good idea" (tm) to alias python to python3 instead of python2. Then again, you can easily change the alias yourself... Sander On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > "python2 will refer to some version of Python 2.x > python3 will refe

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Sander Jansen wrote: > I think the question was whether it was a "good idea" (tm) to alias > python to python3 instead of python2. Then again, you can easily > change the alias yourself... > > Sander > Bottom-posting, please. And I believe rather than discuss this

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 12/14/2011 05:24 PM, Evan Martin wrote: 1) Is it intentional that I am unable to use software from upstream like Django unmodified? Am I expected to only install software from the Arch repositories, where it has been patched by Arch devs to work on Arch? (See below for more on Dja

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 14.12.2011 23:24, schrieb Evan Martin: > What I don't understand is why you're manually patching upstream > software to rewrite references from /usr/bin/python to > /usr/bin/python2. This sort of forking is exactly the sort of > divergence (like how Ubuntu modified their GTK to add their own >

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Sander Jansen wrote: >> I think the question was whether it was a "good idea" (tm) to alias >> python to python3 instead of python2. Then again, you can easily >> change the alias yourself... >> >> Sander >> > >

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 14.12.2011 23:24, schrieb Evan Martin: >> What I don't understand is why you're manually patching upstream >> software to rewrite references from /usr/bin/python to >> /usr/bin/python2.  This sort of forking is exactly the sort of >> dive

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Sander Jansen
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> Am 14.12.2011 23:24, schrieb Evan Martin: >>> What I don't understand is why you're manually patching upstream >>> software to rewrite references from /usr/bin/python to >>> /usr/bi

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Sander Jansen wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >>> Am 14.12.2011 23:24, schrieb Evan Martin: What I don't understand is why you're manually patching upstream softw

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Ray Rashif
On 15 December 2011 07:44, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Sander Jansen wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: >>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Thomas Bächler >>> wrote: Am 14.12.2011 23:24, schrieb Evan Martin: > What I don't

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Qadri
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Evan Martin wrote: > As a software developer, I am now getting contacted by users where my > software doesn't work on Arch. I even applied a patch submitted by an > Arch user to make my code use "python2" only to discover it broke my > software on Mac and Windows

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Evan Martin
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Qadri wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Evan Martin wrote: > >> As a software developer, I am now getting contacted by users where my >> software doesn't work on Arch.  I even applied a patch submitted by an >> Arch user to make my code use "python2" only

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Angel Velásquez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/12/11 19:24, Evan Martin wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a recent Arch user, a refugee from Ubuntu. I was attracted to > Arch because I was tired of Ubuntu forcing their new software on me > -- it seemed the Arch way was to allow you to use bleeding e

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Sander Jansen
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Sander Jansen wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: >>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Thomas Bächler >>> wrote: Am 14.12.2011 23:24, schrieb Evan Martin: > What I

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-14 Thread Bjørn Øivind Bjørnsen
On 15/12/11 05:57, Angel Velásquez wrote: > On 14/12/11 19:24, Evan Martin wrote: > > >> 1) Is it intentional that I am unable to use software from >> upstream like Django unmodified? Am I expected to only install >> software from the Arch repositories, where it has been patched by >> Arch devs